Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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ChattaTNVol said:
I probably shouldn't post this but I've been smoking marlboro cigarettes for 43 years so obviously I don't always do what is most often advised.

I know there are a lot of people who will disagree with me and they should. I read their comments in many threads and very very rarely get into arguments. I think its okay to share where you stand. I'm not normally the type to slam someone I disagree with and rarely if ever take the bait to engage in anything other than good natured back and forth.

I think it going to take a bit of patience on the part of our fanbase to see if in fact we get more for our money with this new staff than we did with the last two. I think the football fanbase spent north of $300 million on Dooley’s tenure and over $500 million on Jones and his guys. How much we spend with these guys over the long run is yet to be determined. We’re in a kind of a helpless situation, sort of. It’s a seller’s market.

I don’t think I made any comment at all when Jeremy shared his seemingly disappointment regarding fan attendance at the spring game and my inner voice is screaming at me to stay cool right now but for all the hype about recruiting prowess with this staff color me not exactly impressed at this point. That could change and this time could be different but when our guys at volquest and rivals have to sell us on our latest commit it makes me uneasy. I know I’m not the only one that no longer blindly believes much of the hype.

I like Jeremy. I like his personality and I like his resume. His resume was built on top tier talent and almost exclusively on elite highly coveted well known athletes. In his comments regarding the fans he explained his remarks by saying we want to be the better than everyone else at everything we do. Right now I think most people would tend to think Alabama, Georgia, and Auburn have built and are maintaining better rosters than we are. The recruiting services for all their imperfections tend to generally align with those perceptions. On field performance on an individual and team basis also over time seems to bear that out across the league.

I guess a lot of us are still holding on to pie-in-the-sky expectations and I’m not interested in endlessly arguing the point and I definitely won't be harping on it but I’m actually disappointed in our overall recruiting with this new staff – so far. I want to be patient and I think I’m sort of trying – sometimes. I guess we’ll just have to pay our money and see how things work out. We’ve still got the promise that there are a lot of really good teachers on this staff.

For the record, I want seventy blue chip players on my roster. I want ten 5-stars, ten high 4-stars, twenty mid 4-stars, and thirty low 4-stars. This translates to about 17.5 blue chip recruits per year over four years. You can use the other fifteen scholarships however you like; I don’t care. As a fanbase our spending ranks at the top of the league. Its not like we’re not doing our part.

I like cornbread. My whole life I’ve liked cornbread. I like cornbread and butter and I like cornbread crumbled up in a glass of milk. Somewhere over the years it stuck with me that someone said cornbread in a glass of milk was nasty. I don’t remember who said that. I think they ceased to be a part of my world. Looking back over the years I think that was an inevitable outcome.
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Fahr Pruitt..He and his staff are all overated frauds on the recruiting trail!!!

Amirite? 🤔


So now the guy sucks because he can't load a roster with 5*s and high 4*s right off the bat at a school that has been losing for a deacade?...Come on man 🤔
 
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vols4us said:
it's not the class ranking by rivals or 247 that matters. It's the coaches' evals of players, player development, and schemes. Clemson beat bama for a nc with the #14, #13, #6 and #4 ranked classes per rivals for 2013-2016. About the same talent butch had to work with in the same period, but he topped out with 9-4. Bama had #1, #1, #2, and #1 with saban in the same period, yet still lost to clemson while destroying butch's teams. As long as you have the half dozen elite difference makers you can develop the others to the point of being on a level playing field with the top schools that have higher ranked talent coming out of high school. Then it becomes all about scheme and execution.

Cjp knows all this. He's a really good football coach as are the members of his coaching staff. Not time to be worrying about recruiting rankings. This 4-8 program has to learn how to win again first. Then the elite recruits will be calling cjp/staff.
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Fahr Pruitt..He and his staff are all overated frauds on the recruiting trail!!!

Amirite? 🤔


So now the guy sucks because he can't load a roster with 5*s and high 4*s right off the bat at a school that has been losing for a deacade?...Come on man 🤔
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I don't think that was even close to the point of his post...
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Fahr Pruitt..He and his staff are all overated frauds on the recruiting trail!!!

Amirite? 🤔


So now the guy sucks because he can't load a roster with 5*s and high 4*s right off the bat at a school that has been losing for a deacade?...Come on man 🤔
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Take a lap, McGill
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
It sounded like it to me. He pretty much said they are sucking at recruiting so far, without using those exact words. That is what I thought he was implying while reading it anyway.
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Chatta isn’t that type poster. He is always very respectful. I think he was just saying he is concerned. I don’t agree with him at this point but he wasn’t being a jerk or saying Pruitt sucks or anything.
 
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chavisut said:
I remember when everybody used the Fahr Butch crap any time someone so much as said a single negative comment.
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So? The recruiting class isn't gonna be great this year, I already felt that way, but I also believe it will still be a good class with a lot of good players.
 
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