'19 AL QB Taulia Tagovailoa

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Bassmaster_Vol said:
No, in the same post where I said it was strange, I said we are struggling at QB recruiting. It’s the same thing. We are struggling. Something is wrong. It is strange.
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Just because we don't have one yet doesn't mean we are struggling or something is wrong. From the reports it sounds like we are turning them away not the other way around. Does that sound like something the coaches would do if they were struggling or something was wrong? Sounds like they weren't sold on those guys. If anything the fact that they're still recruiting Taulia after he committed to bama says if they were sold on them they would still be recruiting them too.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
The 2019 class of QBs isn’t very good.

Most likely, Pruitt signs an Elite QB next year.

Nothing is wrong.
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Story is already committed. Looks like more and more people think he will be a QB. I watched his hudl again today and he has an uncanny resemblance to Dobbs IMO.
 
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The coaches are recruiting QBs that they feel will be a good fit with Helton's offense and the culture they're establishing. The chips haven't been falling our way. But we definitely need and want a QB in this class. Everybody knows Taulia will be a hard pull and that one won't be over till he signs.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Bailey did say that. Said TN wasn’t recruiting him that hard and that Michigan was recruiting him much harder
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Where is that quote? If he said that it wasn't posted on VN. Everything he's said about Tennessee has been very positive. Here are the quotes that may have confused you:

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Watch out for Michigan in this one. Lots of buzz out there that the Wolverines are in pretty good shape with him. For what it’s worth, when I visited Bailey at his school last month - as you can see in the picture - he was wearing a Michigan pullover.

Still think Tennessee has a shot, though.
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Then Gucci posted this:

Big Gucci Sosa said:
Simonton and another poster did say yesterday that Vols aren’t all in on him
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Sleegro said:
Where is that quote? If he said that it wasn't posted on VN. Everything he's said about Tennessee has been very positive. Here are the quotes that may have confused you:

Callahan said:



Then Gucci posted this:
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Austin and Simonton have said it in the VQ chat. I’m not confused
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Austin and Simonton have said it in the VQ chat. I’m not confused
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I don't see any evidence. They said we're not recruiting him that hard, or they said that he said we weren't recruiting him hard? Because you posted that Bailey said it and I feel like if that was true it would've been posted here as well. And it wasn't. :detective:
 
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Sleegro said:
I don't see any evidence. They said we're not recruiting him that hard, or they said that he said we weren't recruiting him hard? Because you posted that Bailey said it and I feel like if that was true it would've been posted here as well. And it wasn't. :detective:
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Price said in a Volquest chat that Bailey told him Michigan was recruiting hm harder than Tn. Simonton has said something similar. This isn’t hard or confusing
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Price said in a Volquest chat that Bailey told him Michigan was recruiting hm harder than Tn. Simonton has said something similar. This isn’t hard or confusing
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Ok cool guy. None of that info was posted here so I never saw it, and I thought you misconstrued what was posted here to mean that. Happens a lot in here after all. And even if that's true, the fact that michigan is recruiting him harder doesn't mean that we aren't recruiting him hard. Or that there is anything wrong with our qb recruiting right now. :hi:
 
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Sleegro said:
Ok cool guy. None of that info was posted here so I never saw it, and I thought you misconstrued what was posted here to mean that. Happens a lot in here after all. And even if that's true, the fact that michigan is recruiting him harder doesn't mean that we aren't recruiting him hard. Or that there is anything wrong with our qb recruiting right now. :hi:
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I hope you’re right
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Not sure. All I know is our QB recruiting is strange to say the least
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couple thoughts i've had on it....

first, it's not a great year for qb's, so there are guys getting attention this cycle that wouldn't have got the same type of attention in the past.

second, i think qb is just a hard spot to project from HS to college, and aside from maybe just a handful of guys, the position is very hit or miss. so many variables to consider with qb's, besides just the measurables and mechanics.

third, one thing i've learned already with this staff is they have a plan. and a plan b. so i'm just not all that concerned about it right now.
 
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jakez4ut said:
couple thoughts i've had on it....

first, it's not a great year for qb's, so there are guys getting attention this cycle that wouldn't have got the same type of attention in the past.

second, i think qb is just a hard spot to project from HS to college, and aside from maybe just a handful of guys, the position is very hit or miss. so many variables to consider with qb's, besides just the measurables and mechanics.

third, one thing i've learned already with this staff is they have a plan. and a plan b. so i'm just not all that concerned about it right now.
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Exactly. Only thing I would add is this staff doesn't seem willing to take a guy just to fill a spot if they don't think he's good enough. Which I think is a good thing.
 
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jakez4ut said:
couple thoughts i've had on it....

first, it's not a great year for qb's, so there are guys getting attention this cycle that wouldn't have got the same type of attention in the past.

second, i think qb is just a hard spot to project from HS to college, and aside from maybe just a handful of guys, the position is very hit or miss. so many variables to consider with qb's, besides just the measurables and mechanics.

third, one thing i've learned already with this staff is they have a plan. and a plan b. so i'm just not all that concerned about it right now.
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These are good points. The only thing concerning is that this is a QB and not another position player. If we miss a receiver or something, there’s 50 others we could go and get. But QBs are different and they are coming off the board very early in the process now. I just looked at 247 and the top 15 pro style QBs in the country are already committed somewhere. 11 of the top 15 DT QBs are already committed. So at this point in the game we’re either going to have to flip someone which is tough to do, or we’re going to take a low rated prospect and hope he’s a diamond in the rough like Shrout last year. Maybe he will be. Our other options are grad transfers or jucos and that isn’t a good option for us.

So if their plan A is Tag and we don’t land him, I don’t know what our plan B is with all of these guys already committed.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
These are good points. The only thing concerning is that this is a QB and not another position player. If we miss a receiver or something, there’s 50 others we could go and get. But QBs are different and they are coming off the board very early in the process now. I just looked at 247 and the top 15 pro style QBs in the country are already committed somewhere. 11 of the top 15 DT QBs are already committed. So at this point in the game we’re either going to have to flip someone which is tough to do, or we’re going to take a low rated prospect and hope he’s a diamond in the rough like Shrout last year. Maybe he will be. Our other options are grad transfers or jucos and that isn’t a good option for us.

So if their plan A is Tag and we don’t land him, I don’t know what our plan B is with all of these guys already committed.
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agreed. but see Sleegro's point above about filling a spot...and those qb's you looked at, is that the 19 or 20 cycle?

just from a #'s standpoint, we'll roll in to 2018 with 4 qb's. Chryst, JG, Mcbride and Shrout.

2019, you lose Chryst. so you'd still have 3 scholarship qb's for that season if we didn't sign one this cycle (and i still think we will).

depending on how things shake out, those same three could still all be here in 2020 with 1 or 2 true freshmen from that cycle.

21, 22 Shrout is still here most likely (not saying he's the starter, just looking at #'s), plus the guys that came in 19, and whoever else we've recruited in the 21 and 22 cycles.

not trying to predict the future, obviously a lot can happen in the next 4-5 years,:) but this is the one position that #'s really matter, and i don't think anyone wants to go in to a season with less than 3 qb's on the roster.

so, yeah, there's guys you want to get, and i'm not discounting that part of it.

but strictly from a #'s standpoint, it wouldn't necessarily be the end of the world if we did miss on Tag, and just didn't sign one this cycle. it would put some pressure on next year to sign probably 2 qbs. and in that cycle, the route to playing earlier is there for one of those higher rated guys.
 
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Sleegro said:
Exactly. Only thing I would add is this staff doesn't seem willing to take a guy just to fill a spot if they don't think he's good enough. Which I think is a good thing.
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Scholarships offers are capped...

Thank God we're not just throwing empty 4-year scholarship offers to QBs that can't crack it as a backup...

We don't need a QB every class, we need a 1-2 good or elite one's every 2nd or 3rd class... it all balances out...

e.g.

Let's take Smokey's pet nutrition for example... it's healthy to have 4oz of liver in his meals every week... that doesn't mean he has to eat .57oz of liver every day... it all balances itself out over the course of the weeks... or months... or years even

So it's OK to skip a week if somebody already bought all the good liver that was available at the butcher... you just get in good with the butcher so he lets you know when the next fresh batch is coming...

I mean...... you CAN track down the person that bought all the good liver and stalk them in the bushes to see when they go to work, then put a bright orange mask on and break into their liver fridge... steal it when nobody's looking... but typically the liver fridge is guarded by reporters that tweet out all your dubious plans... it gets hairy when you try to do that.
 
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jakez4ut said:
agreed. but see Sleegro's point above about filling a spot...and those qb's you looked at, is that the 19 or 20 cycle?

just from a #'s standpoint, we'll roll in to 2018 with 4 qb's. Chryst, JG, Mcbride and Shrout.

2019, you lose Chryst. so you'd still have 3 scholarship qb's for that season if we didn't sign one this cycle (and i still think we will).

depending on how things shake out, those same three could still all be here in 2020 with 1 or 2 true freshmen from that cycle.

21, 22 Shrout is still here most likely (not saying he's the starter, just looking at #'s), plus the guys that came in 19, and whoever else we've recruited in the 21 and 22 cycles.

not trying to predict the future, obviously a lot can happen in the next 4-5 years,:) but this is the one position that #'s really matter, and i don't think anyone wants to go in to a season with less than 3 qb's on the roster.

so, yeah, there's guys you want to get, and i'm not discounting that part of it.

but strictly from a #'s standpoint, it wouldn't necessarily be the end of the world if we did miss on Tag, and just didn't sign one this cycle. it would put some pressure on next year to sign probably 2 qbs. and in that cycle, the route to playing earlier is there for one of those higher rated guys.
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Jake there's only one issue with this theory you are expecting all 3 of the QBs we have now (not including chryst) to stay for the 2019 season. That won't happen JG or McBride will transfer undoubtedly.

So technically (we probably need 1 QB this cycle) then 2 the cycle after that.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
You don't know that. You don't know their strategies. You're assuming. Just because you want a QB on the commitment list and will take just about anyone at this point to check the box and lower your anxiety about the process doesn't mean Helton feels the same way.
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Maybe he should try some of the CBD oil.

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jakez4ut said:
agreed. but see Sleegro's point above about filling a spot...and those qb's you looked at, is that the 19 or 20 cycle?

just from a #'s standpoint, we'll roll in to 2018 with 4 qb's. Chryst, JG, Mcbride and Shrout.

2019, you lose Chryst. so you'd still have 3 scholarship qb's for that season if we didn't sign one this cycle (and i still think we will).

depending on how things shake out, those same three could still all be here in 2020 with 1 or 2 true freshmen from that cycle.

21, 22 Shrout is still here most likely (not saying he's the starter, just looking at #'s), plus the guys that came in 19, and whoever else we've recruited in the 21 and 22 cycles.

not trying to predict the future, obviously a lot can happen in the next 4-5 years,:) but this is the one position that #'s really matter, and i don't think anyone wants to go in to a season with less than 3 qb's on the roster.

so, yeah, there's guys you want to get, and i'm not discounting that part of it.

but strictly from a #'s standpoint, it wouldn't necessarily be the end of the world if we did miss on Tag, and just didn't sign one this cycle. it would put some pressure on next year to sign probably 2 qbs. and in that cycle, the route to playing earlier is there for one of those higher rated guys.
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The guy that has always seemed like who the coaches like the most outside of Taulia in this class is Legendre IMO. Yes, he's committed to Kansas but I mean. Kansas. He's a consensus 4 star with recent offers from TX A&M, FSU and UGA, and seems to have everything the coaches are looking for. I would be perfectly happy with a guy like that.
 
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Sleegro said:
The guy that has always seemed like who the coaches like the most outside of Taulia in this class is Legendre IMO. Yes, he's committed to Kansas but I mean. Kansas. He's a consensus 4 star with recent offers from TX A&M, FSU and UGA, and seems to have everything the coaches are looking for. I would be perfectly happy with a guy like that.
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Me too
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
Jake there's only one issue with this theory you are expecting all 3 of the QBs we have now (not including chryst) to stay for the 2019 season. That won't happen JG or McBride will transfer undoubtedly.

So technically (we probably need 1 QB this cycle) then 2 the cycle after that.
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no, i don't actually. i said 'could be' and that 'obviously a lot can happen' in the time line i'm acting out.

but you can only go with what you know. we don't know if we're goin to sign one this cycle. we don't know who/how many we'll sign in any cycle going forward. we don't know if anyone is transferring before this season....

we do know that we have 4 on the roster, and there is a possibility that 3 of the 4 could be here the next 3 seasons. Shrout longer if he does indeed RS this season. of course transfers or NFL early defections etc...could change that. but we don't know that to be true either right now.

and that's the other caveat to all this, the coaches obviously know a lot more than we do. maybe they feel pretty good about Tag coming here. maybe they already know Mcbride is transferring. maybe they already know they're NOT going to RS shrout?

point being, they have a plan, and a plan b. i'm not all that concerned about it right now. just putting it out there that not signing one this cycle MAY not be the end of the world, if that's what they decide to do (and i don't think they will tbh, we'll sign one this cycle most likely).
 
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Sleegro said:
The guy that has always seemed like who the coaches like the most outside of Taulia in this class is Legendre IMO. Yes, he's committed to Kansas but I mean. Kansas. He's a consensus 4 star with recent offers from TX A&M, FSU and UGA, and seems to have everything the coaches are looking for. I would be perfectly happy with a guy like that.
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yep, me too.
 
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Sleegro said:
The guy that has always seemed like who the coaches like the most outside of Taulia in this class is Legendre IMO. Yes, he's committed to Kansas but I mean. Kansas. He's a consensus 4 star with recent offers from TX A&M, FSU and UGA, and seems to have everything the coaches are looking for. I would be perfectly happy with a guy like that.
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Sleegro, I thought something came out about him decommiting or being open to other schools? I can't find anything big or flashy on his Twitter about Kansas.
 
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