Six Wins Required to get to a Bowl?

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Boca Vol said:
"Here's the University of Tennessee coming into the W.G.A.F. Bowl with a 5-7 record after dropping 3 of their last 4 games"....is that the marketing impact you want?
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It beats the marketing impact of crickets for 9 months out of your football program.
 
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Boca Vol said:
"Here's the University of Tennessee coming into the W.G.A.F. Bowl with a 5-7 record after dropping 3 of their last 4 games"....is that the marketing impact you want?
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But if we squeeze by Vandy for a 6th win, our whole image is different. 😌
 
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Boca Vol said:
"Here's the University of Tennessee coming into the W.G.A.F. Bowl with a 5-7 record after dropping 3 of their last 4 games"....is that the marketing impact you want?
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Well, Tennessee is a national name, and Tennnessee fans would buy tickets. So I think the WGAF Bowl would take it.
 
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Orangeredblooded said:
Back story here, I remember when my son was 5 and signed up for little league basketball, went to practice one time, then caught pneumonia and was in hospital for a bit. Of course, had to give up the basketball. At the end of season, he was invited to the party for them. I took him, and the coach told me that they had a trophy for him also. I said no, wouldn’t teach him what being competitive is all about. As a mother, it was hard to see him being there and not getting one. I explained it to him after the party. Maybe in hind sight, shouldn’t have taken him to begin with, but that young man to this date, fights and works hard for what he wants. Proud mother here.
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That's a good story, but I hate to tell you, your son learned his work ethic from what YOU do/did, not what he got or didn't get. You could've just as easily let him have the trophy and had the same talk, asked if he thought he earned it, why or why not, etc. IT'S NOT THE TROPHY THAT MATTERS!!! it's teaching our children what "earning" means and how if feels when you do it!

BTW: Seriously thanks for raising a good son and a responsible taxpayer, we need alot more of them!
 
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Orangeredblooded said:
Back story here, I remember when my son was 5 and signed up for little league basketball, went to practice one time, then caught pneumonia and was in hospital for a bit. Of course, had to give up the basketball. At the end of season, he was invited to the party for them. I took him, and the coach told me that they had a trophy for him also. I said no, wouldn’t teach him what being competitive is all about. As a mother, it was hard to see him being there and not getting one. I explained it to him after the party. Maybe in hind sight, shouldn’t have taken him to begin with, but that young man to this date, fights and works hard for what he wants. Proud mother here.
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Except...
Everybody doesn't get a trophy.
Everybody doesn't get into a bowl game.
There are winners and losers.
 
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Orangeredblooded said:
Back story here, I remember when my son was 5 and signed up for little league basketball, went to practice one time, then caught pneumonia and was in hospital for a bit. Of course, had to give up the basketball. At the end of season, he was invited to the party for them. I took him, and the coach told me that they had a trophy for him also. I said no, wouldn’t teach him what being competitive is all about. As a mother, it was hard to see him being there and not getting one. I explained it to him after the party. Maybe in hind sight, shouldn’t have taken him to begin with, but that young man to this date, fights and works hard for what he wants. Proud mother here.
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So do you not think players that get injured and can't play don't deserve any rings, trophies, etc.?
 
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GVF said:
NCAA baseball and basketball is 64 teams. Same should be for football, then you'd have interesting and quality post season play.
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You can do that in sports that you can play 2-4 games in a weekend. It would take 6 weeks to play that. If they played football games like the baseball and basketball tournament there wouldn't be enough players per team to even finish it. I think 8 would be the absolute most and expect that to happen in a few yrs when the original CFP contract is up. It won't be if but how many. 6-8 I would bet. I think 8 would be more fair. If they did 6 then 2 teams wouldn't have to play that extra game. 8 would get all 5 power conferences,the best non power 5 and then the next 2 best teams.4 teams was not a well thought out plan with there being 5 power 5 conferences. I expect that they get it right in a couple years. They also need to make the teams atleast win their division or get to their conference championship game or just get rid of the conference championships all together. Alabama has benefited twice from that.
 
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It's a funny topic to debate. Reading through the responses, you get the clear impression that folks have fairly strong positions one way or the other. But you also get the impression that everyone's kind of yawning as they explain their perspective.

Not many topics can so thoroughly divide folks into two camps, and at the same time engender so much apparent weariness. :)
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
It's a funny topic to debate. Reading through the responses, you get the clear impression that folks have fairly strong positions one way or the other. But you also get the impression that everyone's kind of yawning as they explain their perspective.

Not many topics can so thoroughly divide folks into two camps, and at the same time engender so much apparent weariness. :)
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I don't really care either way. If they took some away fine, but if they exist I'll probably watch them. If people really feel that strongly about getting rid of some, then they need to stop watching them because the ratings keep all these going.
 
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KINGSVOL said:
That's a good story, but I hate to tell you, your son learned his work ethic from what YOU do/did, not what he got or didn't get. You could've just as easily let him have the trophy and had the same talk, asked if he thought he earned it, why or why not, etc. IT'S NOT THE TROPHY THAT MATTERS!!! it's teaching our children what "earning" means and how if feels when you do it!

BTW: Seriously thanks for raising a good son and a responsible taxpayer, we need alot more of them!
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That back story is just a small portion of raising a responsible adult in today’s world, as a lot of you know.
 
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I guess I don't understand. If the bowls are worthless, don't watch them. They pay the conference $$.
 
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GVF said:
shouldn't be needed anyway. Pare the number of participation bowls back down to an equitable level. Should get rid of a lot of the .500 teams as well and mostly be 7-5 or better.
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I think 7 should be minimum also. Bowls just don't carry the weight they use to
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
So do you not think players that get injured and can't play don't deserve any rings, trophies, etc.?
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Whatever your opinion, welcome to it, but I stand fully by what I said. I believe I was referring to my 5 year old son, you know, informative years, not a high school, college or pro athlete. It was a story on how I chose to raise mine.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
It's a funny topic to debate. Reading through the responses, you get the clear impression that folks have fairly strong positions one way or the other. But you also get the impression that everyone's kind of yawning as they explain their perspective.

Not many topics can so thoroughly divide folks into two camps, and at the same time engender so much apparent weariness. :)
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Yeah, can't claim that it "gets my goat" but the principal pulls his beard a little, at least.
In the movies and music thread, posters that don't watch/no longer watch a show, post "can't wait until they cancel this series". Just never have understood that.

If I'm not interested in something, I just don't watch. Never had a desire to have it removed from those that do.
 
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I don't care enough to passionately argue a stance. I have to admit that I do find it humorous that a team with a losing record could end the season with a "championship." I think it's reasonable to expect a team to have at least a 6-6 record to get a bowl invite. However, I still don't equate a 5-7 team getting a bowl invite to getting participation trophy. Everybody knows what their playing for, and it's definitely not to finish the season with a 6-7 record and a toilet bowl win. I guarantee they don't call themselves champions.

So, let the kids play the game. I really don't care. The kids get an extra game, maybe some gifts, extra practice, and we get one more game to watch at midnight.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
I guess I don't understand. If the bowls are worthless, don't watch them. They pay the conference $$.
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It's participation money and no one wants that trash. Oh, except for the players who have committed their life to the sport and may have never had the opportunity to do trips like that. But who cares about them when we can brag about teaching our 5yo how to be an adult?
 
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utvolpj said:
It's participation money and no one wants that trash. Oh, except for the players who have committed their life to the sport and may have never had the opportunity to do trips like that. But who cares about them when we can brag about teaching our 5yo how to be an adult?
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Well that was just a rude way to respond.

Have a frustrating day at work, PJ?
 
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utvolpj said:
He was 5. It had no impact on their adult life
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Sure it did, that wasn’t the only time we taught him this lesson or others, at least that was a start. He had a lot of glory in football in his school years and earned them. He also had chores and learned to follow through on things he started. He also had the loudest mother at all his sporting events, cheering him on in everything he did.
 
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Boca Vol said:
"Here's the University of Tennessee coming into the W.G.A.F. Bowl with a 5-7 record after dropping 3 of their last 4 games"....is that the marketing impact you want?
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It's better than "Here's an SEC team playing tonight, 7 SEC teams made it to bowl games, Tennessee wasn't one of them."
 
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