Iran nuclear program. It is a lie

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Weezer said:
Does it make us any safer? No. Does it make us less safe? No. You'll be hard pressed to convince me Iran actually gave up nuclear research even with a treaty in place. Iran is always a concern in the M.E. I'm not sure there's anything anyone can do, but I do feel Obama's deal was a paper dragon that accomplished little to nothing. JMO, of course.
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Do you know more about Iranian compliance than General Dunford?

"The top general in the U.S. military said Tuesday that Iran is complying with a landmark nuclear deal and that the agreement has achieved its intended result of curbing Iran's nuclear program."

Both he and Mattis opposed withdrawal from the pact. Along with most of the rest of the free world. But you know better, don't you?

And what message does this send to North Korea? Answer: We are untrustworthy. Our accords are meaningless. Trump just shot himself in the foot.
 
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Weezer said:
It's not Iran itself using nukes that scares me. As a country, it just wouldn't be a prudent thing to do. And let's be honest, it's never leaders themselves who end up wearing a suicide vest. No, what worries me is how effective their security would be against the fanatics of their own religion looking to make a statement. Will they be able to protect nuclear material and keep it out of the hands of such fanatics?
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Fanactics as in Iranian fanactics inside Iran that are not from the government?
 
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Dudes..is the world going to end again like when Trump pulled out of the Paris treaty? Remember how the seas boiled and mountains crumbled because of that move?!?

I mean..the only thing keeping Iran from building a nuke was an Obama treaty!...we should all start panicking ASAP! The streets will run red with blood! Alternative lifestyle SJW's will die!!! STARBUCKS WONT LET US USE THEIR BATHROOMS!!

TRUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMPPP!!!

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lol.
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
Do you know more about Iranian compliance than General Dunford?

"The top general in the U.S. military said Tuesday that Iran is complying with a landmark nuclear deal and that the agreement has achieved its intended result of curbing Iran's nuclear program."

Both he and Mattis opposed withdrawal from the pact. Along with most of the rest of the free world. But you know better, don't you?

And what message does this send to North Korea? Answer: We are untrustworthy. Our accords are meaningless. Trump just shot himself in the foot.
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I disagree with General Dunford then. I did say it's just my opinion. That's what JMO stands for.
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
Do you know more about Iranian compliance than General Dunford?

"The top general in the U.S. military said Tuesday that Iran is complying with a landmark nuclear deal and that the agreement has achieved its intended result of curbing Iran's nuclear program."

Both he and Mattis opposed withdrawal from the pact. Along with most of the rest of the free world. But you know better, don't you?

And what message does this send to North Korea? Answer: We are untrustworthy. Our accords are meaningless. Trump just shot himself in the foot.
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Only comments from Dunford I can find like that are from last fall. Same with Mattis.

Things change.
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
Do you know more about Iranian compliance than General Dunford?

"The top general in the U.S. military said Tuesday that Iran is complying with a landmark nuclear deal and that the agreement has achieved its intended result of curbing Iran's nuclear program."

Both he and Mattis opposed withdrawal from the pact. Along with most of the rest of the free world. But you know better, don't you?

And what message does this send to North Korea? Answer: We are untrustworthy. Our accords are meaningless. Trump just shot himself in the foot.
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When you have a weak and feeble President any country run by someone with a pair of cajones can pull one over you. Let me explain how Iran did it.

Obama offers "landmark deal" aka bribery and capitulation for Iran to basically say "Sure we wont do this"...with their fingers crossed behind their back. They know there are no repercussions to lying to Obama. Whats he gonna do? Draw a red line?! :eek:lol:

The basis of the entire deal was to take their word for it. What the ####ing ####?
 
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Persian Vol said:
Fanactics as in Iranian fanactics inside Iran that are not from the government?
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I'm confused. You're gonna need to be more specific for me. Are you offended that I'm pointing out there are fanatics in Islam? In no way did I say all Muslims are fanatics.
 
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I'm also wondering how this hurts him in the eyes of North Korea? First, the Iran deal wasn't one Trump made, so he's not breaking his own deal. Second, Trump has said all along he was gonna axe it and he did, so he kept his word. How does this inspire mistrust again?
 
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Weezer said:
I'm confused. You're gonna need to be more specific for me. Are you offended that I'm pointing out there are fanatics in Islam? In no way did I say all Muslims are fanatics.
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I was confused initially to what you were worried about. You said you were worried of fanactics outside the Iranian government of getting a hold of nuclear material. I just wanted curious to who those fanactics were specifically.
 
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The Iranian conservative hardliners were celebrating yesterday. They get more leverage now by proving America’s word can’t be trusted.
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
Do you know more about Iranian compliance than General Dunford?

"The top general in the U.S. military said Tuesday that Iran is complying with a landmark nuclear deal and that the agreement has achieved its intended result of curbing Iran's nuclear program."

Both he and Mattis opposed withdrawal from the pact. Along with most of the rest of the free world. But you know better, don't you?

And what message does this send to North Korea? Answer: We are untrustworthy. Our accords are meaningless. Trump just shot himself in the foot.
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Please! WTF are you talking about? It was a ridiculous deal and payoff cash 💰 drop. It was an Obama promise, it was Obama’s word...not an American promise. There was wide spread opposition at the time. It was a terrible idea in the first place.

Again, Obama did it , without congressional support or legislative action...so don’t throw out silly rhetoric about America not honoring its commitments and not being trustworthy.
 
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Vol0725 said:
Please! WTF are you talking about? It was a ridiculous deal and payoff cash 💰 drop. It was an Obama promise, it was Obama’s word...not an American promise. There was wide spread opposition at the time. It was a terrible idea in the first place.

Again, Obama did it , without congressional support or legislative action...so don’t throw out silly rhetoric about America not honoring its commitments and not being trustworthy.
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He's actually using a quote that's eight months old.

Obviously, conditions can't change in that time.
 
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hog88 said:
Regular Iranians love us.
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This point gets lost in the shuffle. There is a brewing CW in Iran and the USA leaving the deal will be sure to amplify the divisions. They are fragmented and have no real strong leadership on either the moderate or radical side. Trump made the right move, imo, if only to show the world once again, that when he says something, unlike Obama, he's gonna do it. (at least foreign policy wise, lol)
 
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Grand Vol said:
Not that I'm aware of.

Are you implying that his silence means the paradigm hasn't changed? That he would just run right out and let everyone know?
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No, I am implying that there is no further information given by him. This does not necessarily mean there has been a change nor does it mean there has not been a change. Assumptions either way are just that, but the 8 month old statements are the best information anyone on this board has right now.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Are you serious? There is ample evidence that the Russians were within days, if not hours, of beginning their assault on Japan.
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You’re damn straight I’m serious. And we were not going to let Russia rape Japan for whatever reason. If we invaded the home land of Japan casualties would have been enormous and using the bomb ended the war. Your conspiracy theories can pound sand on this one Ras
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
No, I am implying that there is no further information given by him. This does not necessarily mean there has been a change nor does it mean there has not been a change. Assumptions either way are just that, but the 8 month old statements are the best information anyone on this board has right now.
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So you were just FOS again. Getting to be the norm for you.
 
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