TrumpPutingate III: the beginning of the end

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#6,576
Mick said:
I'm still under the impression that they are looking into Uranium One and searching for missing emails. Is the field office in Little Rock still investigating some of the claims from the right?
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So, a year long witch Hunt against Trump, that's changed focus and allegations repeatedly, started by a discounted work of fiction, under Obama, against Hillary's opponent and eventual presidential winner... Is thumbs up.

But investigating Democrats for well known corruption is weaponizing the Justice department?

You are a special kind of delusional hypocrite, aren't you?
 
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Grand Vol said:
It was my impression the U1 investigation started long before Trump took office (or was part of another investigation) but I could be wrong on the time line.

As for the email thing, I've only seen obscure sites and conspiracy type mentions of the Little Rock office keeping the email investigation open. Perhaps I missed it on my normal spin through Fox News?
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I could also be misinformed.
 
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#6,578
Reading the libs on this thread is like watching a kid cash in their tickets at Chuckie Cheese. They think they have gotten something wonderful, but then they realize all they ended up with is a pile of crap.

It takes some of the slower kids longer to come to this realization. Keep it up guys.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
So, a year long witch Hunt against Trump, that's changed focus and allegations repeatedly, started by a discounted work of fiction, under Obama, against Hillary's opponent and eventual presidential winner... Is thumbs up.

But investigating Democrats for well known corruption is weaponizing the Justice department?

You are a special kind of delusional hypocrite, aren't you?
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You're special alright. Short bus special. I'm having a decent conversation with Grand and you stick your idiocy right in the middle. Thanks.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
So, a year long witch Hunt against Trump, that's changed focus and allegations repeatedly, started by a discounted work of fiction, under Obama, against Hillary's opponent and eventual presidential winner... Is thumbs up.

But investigating Democrats for well known corruption is weaponizing the Justice department?

You are a special kind of delusional hypocrite, aren't you?
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You must not remember the bro hug we had in efforts to be nicer to each other and then you call me a delusional hypocrite. You have problems.
 
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Mick said:
I could also be misinformed.
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I think this is what you are talking about:

Prosecutors ask FBI agents for info on Uranium One deal

On the orders of Attorney General Jeff Sessions, Justice Department prosecutors have begun asking FBI agents to explain the evidence they found in a now dormant criminal investigation into a controversial uranium deal that critics have linked to Bill and Hillary Clinton, multiple law enforcement officials told NBC News.

The interviews with FBI agents are part of the Justice Department's effort to fulfill a promise an assistant attorney general made to Congress last month to examine whether a special counsel was warranted to look into what has become known as the Uranium One deal, a senior Justice Department official said.
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Not really a re-investigation, but reexamining what was already found.
 
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Mick said:
That could be it. Like I said, I don't see Trump tipping the scale one way or the other.
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No, but it's certainly ironic for another poster to complain that Trump WANTS to, yet ignore that it really did happen under Obama.

To the cheering masses I might add.
 
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Grand Vol said:
No, but it's certainly ironic for another poster to complain that Trump WANTS to, yet ignore that it really did happen under Obama.

To the cheering masses I might add.
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Not sure what your are alluding to about Obama, unless it is the IRS investigations, of which liberal groups were also targets.

Or is it that Barrack wore a tan suit?
 
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Orange_Crush said:
So, a year long witch Hunt against Trump, that's changed focus and allegations repeatedly, started by a discounted work of fiction, under Obama, against Hillary's opponent and eventual presidential winner... Is thumbs up.

But investigating Democrats for well known corruption is weaponizing the Justice department?

You are a special kind of delusional hypocrite, aren't you?
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It is not a witch hunt. It is an investigation by TRUMP APPOINTED REPUBLICANS.

You should believe the opposite of what Trump says anyways, he is a known narcissistic, pathological liar.
 
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Grand Vol said:
No, but it's certainly ironic for another poster to complain that Trump WANTS to, yet ignore that it really did happen under Obama.

To the cheering masses I might add.
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Are you saying Obama directed the DOJ and FBI to go easy on Hillary and/or go after Trump? I repeat Directed.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
The deeper issue here is that Trump wants to weaponize the DOJ and FBI to attack his political opponents and lock them up by subverting law, all the while holding himself above the law. And his supporters are bloodthirsty for him to do it. This is why they keep getting called Fascists since they enjoy this new brand of authoritarian conservatism.

Not to mention Obstruction of Justice, collusion, money laundering, data theft, campaign finance violations, bribery, extortion, perjury, and treason. I hope his entire family rots in prison.
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that is literally what is going on here already. remember the IRS targeting GOP people? This investigation with no end in site?
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Not sure what your are alluding to about Obama, unless it is the IRS investigations, of which liberal groups were also targets.

Or is it that Barrack wore a tan suit?
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I'm not sure you're going to get many supporters to go along with Obama's tan suit being...nice.

I'm trying to be polite about that, but no, that wasn't his color.

Anyway, you screech about Trump WANTING to use a Federal Agency as a weapon, but have no proof.

It actually happened under Obama's Administration and you ignore that.

Like I said, ironic.
 
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Mick said:
You must not remember the bro hug we had in efforts to be nicer to each other and then you call me a delusional hypocrite. You have problems.
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You know what? You're right. I apologise for how I phrased that. I think you're using a double standard.
 
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Mick said:
Are you saying Obama directed the DOJ and FBI to go easy on Hillary and/or go after Trump? I repeat Directed.
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Did I ever say Obama DIRECTLY ordered that?

I've been real careful to make sure I mentioned "Obama Administration" or "under Obama" meaning during his tenure.

But let's face facts here, yes, the FBI and DOJ was far easier on Hillary than they could have been. You can be a non-partisan and admit the same.
 
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Mick said:
Are you saying Obama directed the DOJ and FBI to go easy on Hillary and/or go after Trump? I repeat Directed.
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oh jeez, its another "guilty" argument. he didn't specifically say she was guilty, he just listed all the ways she was guilty. therefore she is not guilty.

Obama didn't specifically DIRECT them to go after specific targets. he just listed all the targets they might want to look at, or not. therefore he didn't DIRECT them to do those things.
 
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LouderVol said:
oh jeez, its another "guilty" argument. he didn't specifically say she was guilty, he just listed all the ways she was guilty. therefore she is not guilty.

Obama didn't specifically DIRECT them to go after specific targets. he just listed all the targets they might want to look at, or not. therefore he didn't DIRECT them to do those things.
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I don't think Obama directed it either.

But someone at the IRS sure as hell did.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Did I ever say Obama DIRECTLY ordered that?

I've been real careful to make sure I mentioned "Obama Administration" or "under Obama" meaning during his tenure.

But let's face facts here, yes, the FBI and DOJ was far easier on Hillary than they could have been. You can be a non-partisan and admit the same.
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I don't see it that way though. HC was stupid for using the private server but not criminal.
 
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LouderVol said:
oh jeez, its another "guilty" argument. he didn't specifically say she was guilty, he just listed all the ways she was guilty. therefore she is not guilty.

Obama didn't specifically DIRECT them to go after specific targets. he just listed all the targets they might want to look at, or not. therefore he didn't DIRECT them to do those things.
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Thanks for chiming in but me and Grand have this conversation under control.
 
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Grand Vol said:
No, it really isn't. Whole lot of folks get in trouble for keeping classified on a non-secure system.

As a minimum, you'd lose your clearance. At worst, jail time.
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If you're someone in the IC or a PFC yes but not the SOS. Its been pointed out numerous times that the President can give whoever they want clearance, whenever he wants, for whatever reason. Basically he can say it wasn't nefarious or threat to national security (It wasn't)and keep up the good work. It's the SOS doing her job and nothing more on a private server. I really wish you could wrap you head around the fact that she wasn't selling secrets to the Russians.
 
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#6,600
Grand Vol said:
No, it really isn't. Whole lot of folks get in trouble for keeping classified on a non-secure system.

As a minimum, you'd lose your clearance. At worst, jail time.
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Deflection accomplished but still a good conversation. Thanks.
 
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