To Protect and to Serve II

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n_huffhines said:
How is no clothes comparable to types of clothes? You are arguing about ludeness and I'm talking about something that shouldn't bother anybody. No masks is a right to privacy issue and a nudist is seeking the exact opposite of privacy.
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Enough ludes and you won't care about wearing nothing but a mask.
 
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n_huffhines said:
How is no clothes comparable to types of clothes? You are arguing about ludeness and I'm talking about something that shouldn't bother anybody. No masks is a right to privacy issue and a nudist is seeking the exact opposite of privacy.
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Are we talking about sedatives or obscenities?
 
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n_huffhines said:
How is no clothes comparable to types of clothes? You are arguing about ludeness and I'm talking about something that shouldn't bother anybody. No masks is a right to privacy issue and a nudist is seeking the exact opposite of privacy.
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That’s my point
Where’s the line. You think masks shouldn’t bother anyone. I think they do. You say privacy is more important than safety. I think safety (ability to identify your attacker) is more important that your right to misbehave in a mask. To me if it’s important enough to protest then it shouldn’t have to hide. I’d argue the mask degrades the point you’re trying to make. Some think nudity shouldn’t bother anyone I think it does. So who gets to decide?


Lawmakers. That’s why we elected them
 
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midnight orange said:
I was only pointing out that it is an intellectually dishonest debate tactic that signifies the name-caller has no valid points or has exhausted his arguement. Other than that I don't care.
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I don’t know if I believe you.
This is an anonymous board and that anonymity leads to distrust
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
That’s my point
Where’s the line. You think masks shouldn’t bother anyone. I think they do. You say privacy is more important than safety. I think safety (ability to identify your attacker) is more important that your right to misbehave in a mask. To me if it’s important enough to protest then it shouldn’t have to hide. I’d argue the mask degrades the point you’re trying to make.
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You're asking where is the line on freedom, I'll flip that on you and ask where is the line on safety? We'd all be a lot safer if we made the speed limit 10 MPH, but that's no way to live.

The mask doesn't harm you. Criminals harm you. Punish crimes, don't make victimless acts into crimes.

Some think nudity shouldn’t bother anyone I think it does. So who gets to decide?

Lawmakers. That’s why we elected them
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Who cares who gets to decide? What does this have to do with anything? I'm trying to argue the merits of the law and you're acting like the fact that it is a law is what gives it merit.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
To me if it’s important enough to protest then it shouldn’t have to hide.
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What if you are protesting Scientologists, teamsters, or the KKK....groups that have a history of hurting people that oppose them?

Why don't you care about the safety of protesters?
 
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n_huffhines said:
Who cares who gets to decide? What does this have to do with anything? I'm trying to argue the merits of the law and you're acting like the fact that it is a law is what gives it merit.
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Arguing the merits based on what?

You think freedom means you can wear a mask in public and if you can’t you’re not free.
I disagree.
I think masks encourage violence and don’t have an alternative use that makes them more valuable than the harm they cause.


Your point seems obvious to you and my point seems obvious to me.
So my point becomes who decides in your mind?

Because at this point you and I have added nothing to this debate beyond “nut uh!!!” And “uh hu!!!”

Which are very complicated and compelling arguments.
 
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n_huffhines said:
You're asking where is the line on freedom, I'll flip that on you and ask where is the line on safety? We'd all be a lot safer if we made the speed limit 10 MPH, but that's no way to live.

The mask doesn't harm you. Criminals harm you. Punish crimes, don't make victimless acts into crimes.
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I’d be ok with allowing mask with a 25yr addition to the sentence of anyone committing a crime while masked.
 
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n_huffhines said:
What if you are protesting Scientologists, teamsters, or the KKK....groups that have a history of hurting people that oppose them?

Why don't you care about the safety of protesters?
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They make a choice to face there “enemies” they are not required to protest.

You have a right to protest. You have the right to press charges if the other side assaults you.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
They make a choice to face there “enemies” they are not required to protest.
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Irrelevant.

You have a right to protest. You have the right to press charges if the other side assaults you.
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What if they put a bomb in your mailbox two weeks later? Or they steal your identity? Hire a private eye to dig up dirt on you? Then what?
 
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n_huffhines said:
Irrelevant.



What if they put a bomb in your mailbox two weeks later? Or they steal your identity? Hire a private eye to dig up dirt on you? Then what?
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That’s so ****ing stupid.
If they’re that committed to revenge your little mask won’t save you.

What if they follow you after the protest wait till you take off the mask then put a bomb in your mailbox two weeks later? Or they steal your identity? Hire a private eye to dig up dirt on you?
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
That’s so ****ing stupid.
If they’re that committed to revenge your little mask won’t save you.

What if they follow you after the protest wait till you take off the mask then put a bomb in your mailbox two weeks later? Or they steal your identity? Hire a private eye to dig up dirt on you?
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I’d recommend pressing charges
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
That’s so ****ing stupid.

If they’re that committed to revenge your little mask won’t save you.
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"If the authorities are committed to catching violent protesters, their little masks won't save them."

What if they follow you after the protest wait till you take off the mask then put a bomb in your mailbox two weeks later? Or they steal your identity? Hire a private eye to dig up dirt on you?
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Talk about ****ing stupid, you're saying that because there isn't 100% protection, it's OK to make it as easy as possible for bad organizations to find and intimidate protesters.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Shhhh
I’m having fun here
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You've been flailing about all over this post with inadequate, inaccurate, circular arguments. To summarize your position
1) an unsubstantiated claim that masks are evil and responsible for violence.
2) The above is supported by the fact that there are laws against wearing masks in public, which means masks are evil.
3) A Georgia state law enacted in 1951 (10 years after the 2nd iteration of the kkk had pretty much fallen apart mind you) was responsible for bringing down the kkk.
 
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n_huffhines said:
"If the authorities are committed to catching violent protesters, their little masks won't save them."



Talk about ****ing stupid, you're saying that because there isn't 100% protection, it's OK to make it as easy as possible for bad organizations to find and intimidate protesters.
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I don’t assume the organization being protested are ganstar. They’re not wearing a mask.
 
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midnight orange said:
You've been flailing about all over this post with inadequate, inaccurate, circular arguments. To summarize your position
1) an unsubstantiated claim that masks are evil and responsible for violence.
2) The above is supported by the fact that there are laws against wearing masks in public, which means masks are evil.
3) A Georgia state law enacted in 1951 (10 years after the 2nd iteration of the kkk had pretty much fallen apart mind you) was responsible for bringing down the kkk.
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Ok.
Edit: nut uh
 
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