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Osborne, Taylor, Emerson and Phillips also made an impact. Smith, Bituli, JJ and TKJr will be back and that will be a big help. Allen will have it down by fall. Byrd-- IDK.

No injuries-- that's the best thing. Bumphus and Pope were limping a bit, but they seemed to shake it off.
 
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Rishvol said:
You say Sapp stood out but then say you barely noticed the OLBs? Tuttle dominated the inside he got past the center and guards a lot but stopped because he couldn't hit JG. It happened a lot with the DL on passing plays
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Sapp was ilb. Taylor was olb but didn't really do much. He did look like he was trying though. With Tuttle I was talking about on running plays. He would get decent positions but let up at the end instead of making a play.
 
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butchna said:
Will say that Sapp whiff on Jordan will get talked about in Pruitt’s film cavern. :yuck:
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Yeah that was bad and he will deserve Pruitt's ire. But he made far more plays than mistakes and seemed to always be involved in the plays.
 
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Rishvol said:
You say Sapp stood out but then say you barely noticed the OLBs? Tuttle dominated the inside he got past the center and guards a lot but stopped because he couldn't hit JG. It happened a lot with the DL on passing plays
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Hard to take anything you say seriously when you don’t know what position Sapp even plays. A roster was released for the game on several platforms. Sapp is a inside linebacker. So your above comment makes no sense at all. Tuttle also as many on here have said who actually watched the game was getting pushed around by the weakest position group on the team: our offensive line. Him getting in the backfield a handful of times and not doing anything does not change that. I also saw you write a bunch of stupid stuff yesterday so to save myself some time reading your uninformed opinion I’m just going to hit that ignore button.
 
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A Sunday thought...

As we try to get all the recruiting updates we can, I have thought a good bit about Coach Pruitt's comments regarding yesterday's atmosphere and the fans as well as everyone's reaction to it.

Let me first say, I don't think Pruitt's comments are any kind of end of the world bad and I don't think it changes how fans feel about him in any significant way.

I do however think it was a comment better served not said.

Here's what I believe in covering this program for 24 years and living in Knoxville all my life.

Tennessee fans will show up. I was impressed by the amount of people that were there on Saturday. I thought it was a really good crowd. This fan base loves their football. They have passion for it and they will show up. Sporting event crowds are down around the country year after year. So the days of waiting lists and hard to get tickets are fewer and farther between but Tennessee fans will show. They always have and I believe that they always will.

But Pruitt and the athletic department have to be mindful of where Tennessee fans are mentally. Many are tired and beat up. It's been 10 years of a new start, of turning the page. It's been four coaches in a decade talking about how the team has to learn how to practice and about how they are trying to instill their culture, etc, etc.

Yes, I know it's just a game, but simply put this fan base has been through hell and with each passing change, people become more hesitant to just jump in with both feet. It's natural. It doesn't mean there's apathy. It doesn't mean they don't care. It just means the buy in takes on a little more of a slower approach.

In someways that's how the fans are also like some on this team. A team that's had 4 strength coaches in 4 years as well as three DL coaches, three wr coaches, three OC's, three OL coaches, 3 db's coaches in three years.

Phillip Fulmer says he know what good looks like and he's hired a coach that can restore Tennessee football. Tennessee fans also know what good looks like and they are hoping the fourth try since Fulmer was fired is the guy who can restore their program back to the glory days. But because the first three guys to try failed, some Tennessee fans are a little more unsure.

It's not that they don't like Pruitt or that they think he can't get the job done. They have just been down this road a lot the last decade.
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More from Hubbs...

It's not about putting someone on one side or the other. That's why there's such an inability to debate things.

If you disagree with Pruitt saying that, it doesn't mean you dislike Pruitt. It means you didn't agree with that comment.

I think it would have been better had he not said it.

I get his mentality and in many ways respect it. The guy is a winner. He's won everywhere he's been. So he doesn't understand a mentality where some might be hesitant about jumping all in. I understand why he wouldn't grasp that notion.

Doesn't make him a bad coach or a bad fit or anything like that. Just like it doesn't make a fan a bad fan for not coming to the game yesterday.
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Tennessee is like a kid that has been in and out of a series of bad relationships. We meet someone and they seem nice. They tell us all the things we want to hear at first. They tell us how much they care and that they are going to be good to us. Then they turn out to be a cheater or lazy or a liar. After so many of those relationships we have begun to be tentative in pouring ourselves 100% into a new one. The thing is, we have been meeting all those others in the wrong place. The wrong sort of people introduced us. Phil Fulmer introduced us to this new coach. PF bleeds more orange than most of us. He would not introduce us to a loser. It is hard but we should be a little more willing to give this relationship our 100% based on where it is coming from. I would have been there yesterday if it had been possible. I am excited about what we saw. There is always things to work on but we are having to start with the very basics so we have got to give it time.
 
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I think butch wanted to win. HE tried hard

Pruitt strikes me as the type of person that just doesn’t believe he will fail. And doesn’t. And won’t. He will demand excellence of everyone around him

Some people are just born winners and leaders. They don’t change and they have nothing fake about who they are. This is what CJP is
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Pruitt, in his short time here, comes off as just as dorky as Butch, except Butch was all-positive and Pruitt is all-negative.

All that matters at the end of the day is winning, though. And I’ve seen nothing to suggest we won’t do it.
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Nah I don't think he's dorky whatsoever. He comes off to me as a no nonsense, straight shooter. I think he says exactly what he thinks, which makes his press conferences very informative and refreshing to me.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
Doesn't seem dorky to me. Maybe if your offended it's dorky but he just comes off as a guy that isn't going to settle for good. He wants championships.

I still have this thought that they wanted the offense to show out because that has been what kids having had questions about. Nobody questions what his defense eventually becomes. I for one was impressed with fundamental scheme of the offense. We use the entire field vertically and horizontally; mainly pushing the ball forward. Good mix of run and pass and getting playmakers the ball with ability to make plays
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I was a fan of the play selections yesterday. Loved taking snaps under center and running the I a few times. Just looked right.
 
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I've been trying to get my arms around what CJP said about players quitting. Is the quitting attitude from poor coaching from past staffs, poor recruiting from past staffs, or just a general malaise among some recruits? I know from my days coaching, there are kids who just don't have the heart to compete. It looks more and more to me that CBJ recruited athletes who lacked the heart to compete and win. They were whiners in the weight room, whiners/ unfocused on the practice field, and quitters/ underperformers in games. Looking more and more like CJP's rebuilding job is more challenging than we thought.
 
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