Recruiting Forum Football Talk LVII

[RikidyBones]

Haha as a magic fan that was fun but I had just left Orlando so I didn't get to go to any of those. I was at a couple the year before.

I was there that year too. I have all the extra smedium blue and white shirts to show for it lol.

 

[Sleegro]

almirUT, how old are you? did you see Jordan play live?

Born after Michael retired Imo.

 

[Chief Vol 13]

how you feel is not my concern. Dunking on fools these days doesn't mean the same. they all move out of his way and dont body up.

Nah not really.

 

[Sleegro]

I was there that year too. I have all the extra smedium blue and white shirts to show for it lol.

Haha me too. Still don't fit but I kept them.

 

[Rishvol]

almirUT, how old are you? did you see Jordan play live?

D4Hs other account imo

 

[Sleegro]

Watch: Shy Tuttle, Kyle Phillips talk Vols defense, progress

Shy and Phillips talking to the media. Phillips was pretty candid. Like what he had to say.

 

[omghulkhands]

You cited Jordan’s coach as an advantage? Maybe if Lebron doesn’t bail on his every few seasons, they enter that pantheon?

You’re making an assumption about what I said. You can go back and look, I merely pondered how his career might be different if he had a coach widely assumed to be great.

I wasn’t citing it as an advantage over Jordan because I’m fully aware in this hypothetical that James could be worse, equal or better. There are a plethora of outcomes to weigh.

So still, I’m not sure your point. Best I can guess is that you are trying to say Jackson, Pop and Riley are overrated in your mind or are at least comparable to coaches that have been with LeBron.

 

[unioncityvol]

3 peat. Go play baseball for a couple years. Come back and 3 peat again. Goat

 

[lmoore944]

I’ll just leave this here

 

[VolNectar]

Nuke this thread, please. Have mercy.

 

[butchna]

You’re making an assumption about what I said. You can go back and look, I merely pondered how his career might be different if he had a coach widely assumed to be great.

I wasn’t citing it as an advantage over Jordan because I’m fully aware in this hypothetical that James could be worse, equal or better. There are a plethora of outcomes to weigh.

So still, I’m not sure your point. Best I can guess is that you are trying to say Jackson, Pop and Riley are overrated in your mind or are at least comparable to coaches that have been with LeBron.

I don’t know how I can explain it any better. Maybe use the chicken egg analogy when it comes to “widely assumed great coaches” and great players? Are the coaches “great” because of the players? How many titles have your examples won WITHOUT a generational player? But no, I asked that in my original post and got you all confused. As far as the “advantage” thing, you seemed to indicate that JORDAN had that over Lebron. NM. Let your truth be yours. :hi:

 

[Nashvegas31]

Need to create a new thread for lebrin vs jordan talk

 

[butchna]

Need to create a new thread for lebrin vs jordan talk

So we can start talkin some crootin in it! :rock2:

 

[99volfan]

I’ll just leave this here

Well LeBron has carried the cavs to the playoffs ever since he has returned, but don't let that distract you from the fact that Elgin Baylor would carry them to CHAMPIONSHIPS

 

[Sleegro]

Need to create a new thread for lebrin vs jordan talk

I'd like to thank bass for repeatedly trying to instigate this for a couple days then disappearing once it got going. Hahaha. I posted some interviews of shy and Phillips in here a few minutes ago. Haha.

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

No one said Lebron couldn't be a star in the 80's or 90's. At least I didn't. You obviously never saw Laimbeer play. He was tougher than Lebron. Not stronger, tougher. Trust me, Lebron would have avoided him as much as possible in a game.

What? I stated im a Pistons fan and watched almost every game they played. There’s a difference between nasty and tough. Bill was nasty. I also saw him try to fist fight Barkely and flailed his arms around like a little girl but then again that’s most NBA players.

Bill was also a 3 Point Shooting forward/center. Not exactly hard-core on the offensive end.

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

Laimbeer and Mahorn would have killed him going to the hole, as opposed to today's wimps who scoot out his way..Those guys were big tough goons.

Now Mahorn, Dumars, The microwave and Rodman were some tough guys.

 

[Sleegro]

Now Mahorn, Dumars, The microwave and Rodman were some tough guys.

Wasn't chocolate thunder there too. And John Sally was no joke either. Hated and loved that team at the same time. Mostly hated though.

 

[Rishvol]

I'd like to thank bass for repeatedly trying to instigate this for a couple days then disappearing once it got going. Hahaha. I posted some interviews of shy and Phillips in here a few minutes ago. Haha.

Videos didn't work for me

 

[KPT_VFL]

Freak..... please save this thread.

 

[Brillovol]

Watch: Shy Tuttle, Kyle Phillips talk Vols defense, progress

Shy and Phillips talking to the media. Phillips was pretty candid. Like what he had to say.

Hot take: KP and Shy both get drafted. At least that’s what I want to wish on them.

 

[Sleegro]

What? I stated im a Pistons fan and watched almost every game they played. There’s a difference between nasty and tough. Bill was nasty. I also saw him try to fist fight Barkely and flailed his arms around like a little girl but then again that’s most NBA players.

Bill was also a 3 Point Shooting forward/center. Not exactly hard-core on the offensive end.

I don't think Bill's offense is part of this discussion though. And I think toughness is more about taking a punch than throwing one. You can have knockout power and not be tough enough to take a punch. I never saw bill back down from anybody. That's pretty tough if you ask me.

 

[Sleegro]

Hot take: KP and Shy both get drafted. At least that’s what I want to wish on them.

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised by that. They both have the talent and potential. And they seem to be taking steps in developing.

 

[Brillovol]

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised by that. They both have the talent and potential. And they seem to be taking steps in developing.

If anyone can, I believe Rocker can do it. He has the proven track record.

 

[Sleegro]

Videos didn't work for me

I'm not great at embedding on my phone but you can probably search for them on YouTube.