#BoycottNRA

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luthervol said:
He's insanely wrong in both words and intent. Anyone whose views are portrayed accurately by Nuget's statement, is a lost cause.
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I’m curious:

You believe rights come from the government and that we only have a right to own guns if government says so, correct?
 
#3,778
#3,778
Vol8188 said:
I’m curious:

You believe rights come from the government and that we only have a right to own guns if government says so, correct?
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,
 
#3,779
#3,779
luthervol said:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,
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So you believe rights come from our creator and not from government?

Why do you not simply answer direct questions? Granted, if you were capable of such, this thread would’ve been a lot shorter.
 
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golfballs said:
Lol. If anything this is a compelling reason for more people to own guns
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If for no other reason .... to shoot his dumb ass
 
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#3,782
Vol8188 said:
So you believe rights come from our creator and not from government?

Why do you not simply answer direct questions? Granted, if you were capable of such, this thread would’ve been a lot shorter.
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I believe some rights are self evident. (not necessarily from a "creator"). The right to own a gun is NOT one of these rights. The right to own a gun would be given by the government. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness supersedes all governmentally granted rights.
 
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#3,784
luthervol said:
I believe some rights are self evident. (not necessarily from a "creator"). The right to own a gun is NOT one of these rights. The right to own a gun would be given by the government. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness supersedes all governmentally granted rights.
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So you have a right to life and liberty, but not a right to use a gun to defend either.
 
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McDad said:
I believe I have an obligation (more pronounced than a right) to defend myself and my family.
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Everybody has an obligation to defend themselves and their family. Doesn't mean I have the right to bury land mines in my yard.
 
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#3,788
luthervol said:
I've always supported the right of people having guns to defend themselves. (but it is a government granted right and not an unalienable right)
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If a "right" must come from the government, it's not a right. It's a privilege that can be restricted or revoked at any time.
 
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luthervol said:
I believe some rights are self evident. (not necessarily from a "creator"). The right to own a gun is NOT one of these rights. The right to own a gun would be given by the government. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness supersedes all governmentally granted rights.
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Our constitution disagrees. If you don’t like it get it changed. Until then quityer*****in
 
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luthervol said:
I believe some rights are self evident. (not necessarily from a "creator"). The right to own a gun is NOT one of these rights. The right to own a gun would be given by the government. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness supersedes all governmentally granted rights.
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The right to own a gun is merely an extension of property rights. You don’t see property rights as self evident?

Edit: I forgot to add your natural right to self defense. That’s the other right which gun rights are also merely an extension of. Both your property rights and right to self defense
 
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Vol8188 said:
Rights don’t come from the government
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So I agree with you. The original BoR codified basic rights the government shall not infringe upon. They are basically “shall nots”. The constitution wasn’t going to be ratified until these off limits rights were explicitly stated.

And 2a isn’t going to be repealed. Ever.
 
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Vol8188 said:
The right to own a gun is merely an extension of property rights. You don’t see property rights as self evident?

Edit: I forgot to add your natural right to self defense. That’s the other right which gun rights are also merely an extension of. Both your property rights and right to self defense
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I've stated MULTIPLE times I support the right to own a gun for self defense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I also don't believe property rights or the right to self defense gives you the right to bury land mines in your yard or carry a machine gun into Neyland Stadium.

THERE ARE REASONABLE AND RATIONAL LIMITS!!
 
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luthervol said:
I've stated MULTIPLE times I support the right to own a gun for self defense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I also don't believe property rights or the right to self defense gives you the right to bury land mines in your yard or carry a machine gun into Neyland Stadium.

THERE ARE REASONABLE AND RATIONAL LIMITS!!
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You should have the right to bury landmines on your property. The university is the owner of Neyland and their gun policy is theirs to make.
 
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#3,797
luthervol said:
I've stated MULTIPLE times I support the right to own a gun for self defense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I also don't believe property rights or the right to self defense gives you the right to bury land mines in your yard or carry a machine gun into Neyland Stadium.

THERE ARE REASONABLE AND RATIONAL LIMITS!!
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That’s big of you Luth. But as a right your opinion isn’t required. Neither is mine. It stands on its own merits.

Your rationalization to give the government administration power over a right thus dillutes it to more like a privilege then. That’s wrong. Many people believe NFA 1934 is over reaching.

So take your reasonable and rational crap elsewhere. There are already too many gun laws. We’re gonna vehemently fight anymore.
 
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