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Go Fight Win said:
no doubt in my mind this team will look night and day different

We may not kill it this year on the field, but we will not play timid. And that excites me
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JG played that way. I believe it was by design. Excited to see what he can do with the shackles off.
 
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rekinhavoc said:
JG played that way. I believe it was by design. Excited to see what he can do with the shackles off.
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Butch's gameplan was to dump it off in the backfield, get the ball out quick (typically before routes developed). Combine that with opponents' DL being behind our OL within 2 seconds, I'm surprised 1) JG is still in one piece and 2) that he didn't have way more turnovers. That timid QB play was definitely by design.

Alabama and Georgia can get away with crap numbers from their QB's because they lean so heavily on the run game. Butch didn't know that we don't have a Bama/Georgia-esque ground game and that we'd need to open it up downfield more. And/or he just flat failed to develop our OL and WR's to be capable of doing that.
 
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ChismsHeadband said:
Butch's gameplan was to dump it off in the backfield, get the ball out quick (typically before routes developed). Combine that with opponents' DL being behind our OL within 2 seconds, I'm surprised 1) JG is still in one piece and 2) that he didn't have way more turnovers. That timid QB play was definitely by design.

Alabama and Georgia can get away with crap numbers from their QB's because they lean so heavily on the run game. Butch didn't know that we don't have a Bama/Georgia-esque ground game and that we'd need to open it up downfield more. And/or he just flat failed to develop our OL and WR's to be capable of doing that.
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Lyle's finesse "patticake" run blocking scheme surely didn't help to power that run game.
 
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Vols4us said:
Exactly. So Jumper being in the game to line them up correctly might have been an overstatement, or just more BS?
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Jumper was one of many head scratchers. However, our guys were small, poorly disciplined, played with poor fundamentals most of the time. Jumper lining them up right or not didn't matter if they were gonna be given the business by FCS teams in the trenches.
 
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ScottishVol said:
Lyle's finesse "patticake" run blocking scheme surely didn't help to power that run game.
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I'm sure Saban will really value Butch's take in any offensive meetings they dare let him attend. I'd pay to see Saban going off on Butch like he did that walk on the other day lol.
 
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SouthKnoxVOL said:
Spurrier is a head coach again. Gonna coach Orlando in that new American Alliance football league.
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Couldn’t handle the thought of another falll sitting around in hot, ugly Gainesville, watching in angst as Felipe Franks tried moving the football down the field...
 
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Here’s an incredible stat in the Southeastern Conference entering the 2018 season, the league features 10 new offensive coordinators (counting Florida’s co-OCs as two). Following so much turnover at the position, here’s something to know about each of the top offensive minds in the league this season.
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Known by most for his development of USC quarterback Sam Darnold, a more traditional pro-style passer, into a projected first-round selection in the 2018 NFL Draft, Tyson Helton also has experience working with dual-threat quarterbacks. While coaching at UAB, Helton worked with future NFL quarterback Joe Webb. During that time, Webb became the first player in NCAA history to throw for 2,000 yards or more and rush for 1,000 yards or more in consecutive seasons. That experience could serve Helton well in Knoxville over the next few seasons as Jarrett Guarantano possess the tools to develop into a similar threat for the Volunteer offense.
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Brillovol said:
Random thought. This team has some similarities to the 2009 team. Both with excellent coaching staffs (at least on paper), both with some talent but not without a couple holes, and both in first years of a new coach.

Your take: 2009 team or 2018 team?
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2009 easily. Dan Williams, Eric Berry, Montario Hardesty, Bryce Brown, Chris Scott, Jaq Mclendon, Luke stocker, Denarious Moore, All NFL players.

The team was loaded. Only winning 7 games was a let down. That team should’ve been 9-3.
 
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HankHill said:
2009 easily. Dan Williams, Eric Berry, Montario Hardesty, Bryce Brown, Chris Scott, Jaq Mclendon, Luke stocker, Denarious Moore, All NFL players.

The team was loaded. Only winning 7 games was a let down. That team should’ve been 9-3.
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Forgot Aaron Douglas and Janzen too.
 
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HankHill said:
2009 easily. Dan Williams, Eric Berry, Montario Hardesty, Bryce Brown, Chris Scott, Jaq Mclendon, Luke stocker, Denarious Moore, All NFL players.

The team was loaded. Only winning 7 games was a let down. That team should’ve been 9-3.
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So do we have some guys on the team now that we'll look back at in 10 years and list like this?

I bet there are more than a couple but we'll see.

That group should've done a lot. Kiffin certainly had a lot of pieces.
 
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HankHill said:
2009 easily. Dan Williams, Eric Berry, Montario Hardesty, Bryce Brown, Chris Scott, Jaq Mclendon, Luke stocker, Denarious Moore, All NFL players.

The team was loaded. Only winning 7 games was a let down. That team should’ve been 9-3.
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UCLA game...nuff said. Honorable mention Ole Miss (beginning of the end of the Monte Kiffin “genius”)
 
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HankHill said:
2009 easily. Dan Williams, Eric Berry, Montario Hardesty, Bryce Brown, Chris Scott, Jaq Mclendon, Luke stocker, Denarious Moore, All NFL players.

The team was loaded. Only winning 7 games was a let down. That team should’ve been 9-3.
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There was certainly talent in spots, but there were also several holes. Two walk-ons starting on OL (Va Tech took advantage of that in the bowl game), and outside of Berry and J. Jackson, the secondary was no closer to SEC caliber than the current one is. Outside of Dan Williams, I think the 2017 front 7 will be bigger and more athletic than the 2009 team (2017 LB corps >> 2009 LB corps, for sure). And I'm not sure there is a D-Mo on the 2017 team, but we are quite a bit deeper at WR than we were in 2009.
 
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HankHill said:
2009 easily. Dan Williams, Eric Berry, Montario Hardesty, Bryce Brown, Chris Scott, Jaq Mclendon, Luke stocker, Denarious Moore, All NFL players.

The team was loaded. Only winning 7 games was a let down. That team should’ve been 9-3.
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Truth. People don’t like to admit that because kiffin is so hyped.

But that was a 9 or 10 win team and kiffin and monte underachieved.

Blew the UCLA game. No showed for Ole Miss and Va Tech.
 
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MrVolton said:
Outside of Berry and Janzen, we didn't have anyone in the back 7 athletic enough to even slow Dexter McCluster down.
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Good scheme keeps him off the record books. Monte couldn’t handle the spread. Became even more apparent in California. Junior ended up having to fire him.
 
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