#BoycottNRA

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Vol8188 said:
What other options would you recommend?
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I laid out my opinions in the mass shooting thread. I'll attempt to keep it brief here.

-No conceal carry for teachers in school zones, no militarized police presence in school zones.

-Metal detectors, CCTV of egress points monitored by SRO's.

-Massive increases in budget for mental health services, within schools and for society as a whole. This includes reopening mental institutions that were shuttered due to lack of funding since the 60s. Jails and police officers are not trained nor equipped to deal with mental illness.

-Federal Universal Background Checks for purchase of all firearms, but tied to the individual, not the weapon in question. Ensure it is not stolen, then leave it at that. If no flags come up for mental health, felonies, etc., allow the purchase. Destroy the record of purchase after set number of days. If flagged, allow for appeal within a certain period of time. No limit to appeals.
This is what I was referring to that GrandVol and I agreed on the other day in the Mass Shooting thread.

-The cornerstone of all of this is increased access to mental health services and increased participation of parents in raising healthy children. We can't do anything about parenting, but we can be sure that teachers, administrators, and society as a whole has better access to mental healthcare.

I'm probably leaving some stuff out that I mentioned in the other thread, but this is the gist of it.
 
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luthervol said:
The groundswell is causing a shifting tide. The fact that it is happening while repubs. control everything adds to the significance.
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Read thru the list after OBV told me how to open.

Isn’t going to cost me personally a penny.

But I did spend $140 on my 5 year NRA membership today so I guess it did cost me something?
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Read thru the list after OBV told me how to open.

Isn’t going to cost me personally a penny.

But I did spend $140 on my 5 year NRA membership today so I guess it did cost me something?
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People seem to be digging in to their positions. I would love a very loud and public national debate. It's long over due.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
I laid out my opinions in the mass shooting thread. I'll attempt to keep it brief here.

-No conceal carry for teachers in school zones, no militarized police presence in school zones.

-Metal detectors, CCTV of egress points monitored by SRO's.

-Massive increases in budget for mental health services, within schools and for society as a whole. This includes reopening mental institutions that were shuttered due to lack of funding since the 60s. Jails and police officers are not trained nor equipped to deal with mental illness.

-Federal Universal Background Checks for purchase of all firearms, but tied to the individual, not the weapon in question. Ensure it is not stolen, then leave it at that. If no flags come up for mental health, felonies, etc., allow the purchase. Destroy the record of purchase after set number of days. If flagged, allow for appeal within a certain period of time. No limit to appeals.
This is what I was referring to that GrandVol and I agreed on the other day in the Mass Shooting thread.

-The cornerstone of all of this is increased access to mental health services and increased participation of parents in raising healthy children. We can't do anything about parenting, but we can be sure that teachers, administrators, and society as a whole has better access to mental healthcare.

I'm probably leaving some stuff out that I mentioned in the other thread, but this is the gist of it.
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You seem to be framing this as a mental health issue. If this were simply a mental health issue, why does it seem to be concentrated in schools? Woudlnt the mentally ill be equally likely to attack any gathering?
 
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Vol8188 said:
You seem to be framing this as a mental health issue. If this were simply a mental health issue, why does it seem to be concentrated in schools? Woudlnt the mentally ill be equally likely to attack any gathering?
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They have, in churches and movie theaters.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Read thru the list after OBV told me how to open.

Isn’t going to cost me personally a penny.

But I did spend $140 on my 5 year NRA membership today so I guess it did cost me something?
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We all have choices. Mine is for change and for the better. People don't have to be needlessly murdered.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Very rarely in both. I can name one movie theater and two churches. I’m sure there’s more, but not nearly as many as in schools.

Why?
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If you have an answer to which you are trying to lead others, you may want to skip the questions and just state your opinion.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Very rarely in both. I can name one movie theater and two churches. I’m sure there’s more, but not nearly as many as in schools.

Why?
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Because in the vast majority of school shootings you have a troubled kid that does not have easy access to mental health services but that does have easy access to firearms.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Because in the vast majority of school shootings you have a troubled kid that does not have easy access to mental health services but that does have easy access to firearms.
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Adults have less access to healthcare and greater access to firearms. Try again.
 
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luthervol said:
If you have an answer to which you are trying to lead others, you may want to skip the questions and just state your opinion.
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Sure. The issue is neither firearms nor mental health. It’s a broken education system. Male students are dropping out at higher rates, more likely to be suspended or disciplined, less likely to make honor roll or be honors classes, because the system is 100% failing.
 
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volfanhill said:
Adults have fully formed brains
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Depends on your definition of “adult”. We also don’t see this issue as frequently on college campuses as we do in high schools. Even though they lack a fully formed brain. And we didn’t see this issue as frequently in the past. The issue is a failure of the education system.
 
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Still cruising the web sites. Both left and right.

Wow talk about a total reversal of dialog.

The deputy’s family requested protection from Palm Co Sheriff Dept. I guess those are the 6 cruisers. Wonder if he lives in Palm Co or....?
 
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hog88 said:
He’s a Republican, appreciates assault weapons and a dumbass.
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I would call him many things...a soldier, brave, selfless, reasonable...but no not a dumbass


Brian Mast served in Afghanistan as part of Operation Enduring Freedom. On September 19, 2010, while clearing a path for United States Army Rangers in Kandahar, Mast took a wrong step into an IED along the road. The explosion resulted in the amputation of both his legs and one of his fingers.[9][10]
 
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