Mass shooting of the week, high school in parkland, FL.

Oh I’ve already nailed you intent a couple of posts back at least with this thread.

You came in with it all figured out with your X Y logic... until you didn’t have it figured out. It was immediately attacked by firearms KNOWLEDGEABLE people on just how flawed it is. I didn’t say reasonable because you’re beyond reason.

And you’ve been trying to walk back, sell, otherwise rationalize that X Y tripe in here ever since.

Whatever you think you've proven has been totally lost on me (I know....of course it has). I think the x to y ratio should and will be used. Much to your great chagrin.
 
Everyone who believes this is true, which seems to be a lot of you, is exhibiting how wrong you can be about the intentions of the other side.

But, we kind of already knew that.

So lets you had your suggestion passed that AR-15 production is halted and further sales are outlawed. Takes effect March 1st 2018. This is what you wanted right?

3 months from now, Jon Q Whitey or Abu Jihad go into a post office and kill a few people.

What will your response be? Are you going to give your legislation time "to work"? Or will you demand more bans?
 
Another interesting concept.

So when innocent kids or anyone else for that matter die at the hands of evil holding a non "scary" gun your response will be?.....a shrug of the shoulders and "it could have been worse without this law in place for the soon to be (if not already) criminal to abide"?

Its almost like this is not as much as about innocent death as some claim.

I hope I never just shrug my shoulders at the murder of innocent kids.

The philosophy that the gun nuts have of "if you can't stop them all, then you shouldn't try to stop any" is asinine. It's a ridiculous argument, right up there with "cars kill more so why don't we ban cars", or "if we give an inch they will try to take a mile because we all know what they really want is to take all of our guns away."

Stupid arguments not worthy of a debate between 9 year olds.
 
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So lets you had your suggestion passed that AR-15 production is halted and further sales are outlawed. Takes effect March 1st 2018. This is what you wanted right?

3 months from now, Jon Q Whitey or Abu Jihad go into a post office and kill a few people.

What will your response be? Are you going to give your legislation time "to work"? Or will you demand more bans?

I'll give it time. There will always be people on the left wanting more and people on the right wanting less. The hope is a reasonable compromise, which is not what we have presently.

Jon Q. Whitey and Abu Jihad have a lot in common by the way. (a much more interesting debate)
 
Whatever you think you've proven has been totally lost on me (I know....of course it has). I think the x to y ratio should and will be used. Much to your great chagrin.

I feel absolutely certain you will be disappointed in the X and Y outcome. Even that level of thought is way beyond the logic the left is using right now.
 
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I hope I never just shrug my shoulders at the murder of innocent kids.

The philosophy that the gun nuts have of "if you can't stop them all, then you shouldn't try to stop any" is asinine. It's a ridiculous argument, right up there with "cars kill more so why don't we ban cars", or "if we give an inch they will try to take a mile because we all know what they really want is to take all of our guns away."

Stupid arguments not worthy of a debate between 9 year olds.
you won't because the survivors are leftist propaganda stars now. you should be ashamed at that, but I have no doubt that you aren't
 
I hope I never just shrug my shoulders at the murder of innocent kids.

The philosophy that the gun nuts have of "if you can't stop them all, then you shouldn't try to stop any" is asinine. It's a ridiculous argument, right up there with "cars kill more so why don't we ban cars", or "if we give an inch they will try to take a mile because we all know what they really want is to take all of our guns away."

Stupid arguments not worthy of a debate between 9 year olds.

Actually the philosophy of the gun nutz is stop the shooter who cares what damn gun he’s using.

But that doesn’t fit your agenda so you ignore it. 👍
 
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I hope I never just shrug my shoulders at the murder of innocent kids.

The philosophy that the gun nuts have of "if you can't stop them all, then you shouldn't try to stop any" is asinine. It's a ridiculous argument, right up there with "cars kill more so why don't we ban cars", or "if we give an inch they will try to take a mile because we all know what they really want is to take all of our guns away."

Stupid arguments not worthy of a debate between 9 year olds.

That sounds nice, but if one of those other guns you don't seem to be bothered with is used instead, what exactly are you doing?

Of course this all has to be noted under the idea that the guns are the problem.

You may have missed it above but what is your opinion on border security and illegal immigration?
 
Pennsylvania Church to Bless Couples Toting AR-15 Rifles - The New York Times

A Pennsylvania-based offshoot of the Unification Church is encouraging couples to bring their AR-15 rifles with them to a commitment ceremony in the Pocono Mountains, a half-mile from an elementary school.
World Peace and Unification Sanctuary in Newfoundland said it planned the Feb. 28 ceremony months ago, well before last week's massacre at a Florida high school. Authorities say the alleged gunman used an AR-15 in the attack that killed 17.
Tim Elder, the Unification Sanctuary's director of world missions, said Tuesday the church believes the AR-15 symbolizes the "rod of iron" mentioned in the Bible's apocalyptic book of Revelation.
The church website directs couples to show up to the ceremony with an AR-15 "or equivalents such as an AK semiautomatic rifle, representing both the intent and the ability to defend one's family, community ... "



This is stupid. The AR-15 likened to anything in the Bible is just to antagonize other people and is pretty much idiotic. I realize they scheduled this before the shooting last week. But they really ought to consider cancelling it in light of recent events. I mean, they should not have scheduled it because it is the definition of being backwards morons, but whatever on that.
 
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This is stupid. The AR-15 likened to anything in the Bible is just to antagonize other people and is pretty much idiotic. I realize they scheduled this before the shooting last week. But they really ought to consider cancelling it in light of recent events. I mean, they should not have scheduled it because it is the definition of being backwards morons, but whatever on that.

The things that you care about and get upset about amaze me.
 
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