Mass shooting of the week, high school in parkland, FL.

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Mick said:
Ban gun would radically change the culture. Would it not? Not that I'm for it. Think about it for a moment. Take all the time you need.
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It wouldn't. If I want to kill children at a school, there are easily a dozen other ways to accomplish it. The gun is the instrument, Not the culture. Look at the cause, Mick, not the symptom.

I wish your passion could fix our culture.
 
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GoDucks349 said:
I got curious about who is doing the majority of the shootings, where they occur and what weapons are used. I found a website called gun violence archive and without doing a spreadsheet the answers are caucasian do the shooting, using either rifles or semi-automatic weapons and the majority of these shootings occur in southern states.

When are people going to start doing something about this problem?

The stats are for the last 35 years
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What do you suggest?
 
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GoDucks349 said:
I got curious about who is doing the majority of the shootings, where they occur and what weapons are used. I found a website called gun violence archive and without doing a spreadsheet the answers are caucasian do the shooting, using either rifles or semi-automatic weapons and the majority of these shootings occur in southern states.

When are people going to start doing something about this problem?

The stats are for the last 35 years
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Nothing will be done.

People will offer prayer, sides will be taken and the culling will continue.

Enjoy your muffin.
 
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GoDucks349 said:
I got curious about who is doing the majority of the shootings, where they occur and what weapons are used. I found a website called gun violence archive and without doing a spreadsheet the answers are caucasian do the shooting, using either rifles or semi-automatic weapons and the majority of these shootings occur in southern states.

When are people going to start doing something about this problem?

The stats are for the last 35 years
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Throw out the southern states.
 
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Watch this video.

This is something the media will not investigate.

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ClearwaterVol said:
My point is that the sheer amount and availability of guns in this country is one part of the problem. Issues like this are seldom as simple as 1+1=2. Lots of variables.
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The problem is the gun control crowd tends to treat this like the only variable. And that's why any proposed legislation in the past decade has failed. Key points included on damn near everything the DNC has proposed:

Universal background checks
Magazine restrictions
Ban/restriction on so called "assault weapons"

With no mention whatsoever of the underlying problems of mental health and how society has changed as a whole. There are a lot of variables. But neither side wants to address the ones that matter the most.
 
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GoDucks349 said:
I got curious about who is doing the majority of the shootings, where they occur and what weapons are used. I found a website called gun violence archive and without doing a spreadsheet the answers are caucasian do the shooting, using either rifles or semi-automatic weapons and the majority of these shootings occur in southern states.

When are people going to start doing something about this problem?

The stats are for the last 35 years
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I think im on the older side of our forum demographics. At White House High School, I took the TWRA hunter safety course. We shot skeet on school grounds during school. Many kids had deer rifles in their truck during hunting season.

The culture has shifted.
 
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hog88 said:
What do you suggest?
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I could suggest that the sale of semi automatic weapons and rifle to Caucasians in southern states be band. But we know that would cause a revolution in less than 24 hours...

I do think some things can be done. First, is to acknowledge the source of the problem. Second, is to require that these weapons be kept in a controlled environment such as a secured weapons storage facility. Anyone wanting to check out a weapon would have to submit a request 3 days in advance along with were they were going to use the weapon and for what purpose.
Ex: hunting deer in authorized zone 2, etc or at rifle range xyz, etc. This does not take guns away, it just limits impulsive use. These are not great guns for home protection so that argument is BS.

That's just a couple thoughts.
 
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GoDucks349 said:
I could suggest that the sale of semi automatic weapons and rifle to Caucasians in southern states be band. But we know that would cause a revolution in less than 24 hours...

I do think some things can be done. First, is to acknowledge the source of the problem. Second, is to require that these weapons be kept in a controlled environment such as a secured weapons storage facility. Anyone wanting to check out a weapon would have to submit a request 3 days in advance along with were they were going to use the weapon and for what purpose.
Ex: hunting deer in authorized zone 2, etc or at rifle range xyz, etc. This does not take guns away, it just limits impulsive use. These are not great guns for home protection so that argument is BS.

That's just a couple thoughts.
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Ok, nice talking to you. Have a good day.
 
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GoDucks349 said:
I could suggest that the sale of semi automatic weapons and rifle to Caucasians in southern states be band. But we know that would cause a revolution in less than 24 hours...

I do think some things can be done. First, is to acknowledge the source of the problem. Second, is to require that these weapons be kept in a controlled environment such as a secured weapons storage facility. Anyone wanting to check out a weapon would have to submit a request 3 days in advance along with were they were going to use the weapon and for what purpose.
Ex: hunting deer in authorized zone 2, etc or at rifle range xyz, etc. This does not take guns away, it just limits impulsive use. These are not great guns for home protection so that argument is BS.

That's just a couple thoughts.
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You think these mass shootings are spur of the moment and impulsive?
 
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Grand Vol said:
The problem is the gun control crowd tends to treat this like the only variable. And that's why any proposed legislation in the past decade has failed. Key points included on damn near everything the DNC has proposed:

Universal background checks
Magazine restrictions
Ban/restriction on so called "assault weapons"

With no mention whatsoever of the underlying problems of mental health and how society has changed as a whole. There are a lot of variables. But neither side wants to address the ones that matter the most.
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As I have said, discussions need to be had on all of the issues. It's criminal that neither side is willing to have such a discussion.
 
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GoDucks349 said:
I could suggest that the sale of semi automatic weapons and rifle to Caucasians in southern states be band. But we know that would cause a revolution in less than 24 hours...

I do think some things can be done. First, is to acknowledge the source of the problem. Second, is to require that these weapons be kept in a controlled environment such as a secured weapons storage facility. Anyone wanting to check out a weapon would have to submit a request 3 days in advance along with were they were going to use the weapon and for what purpose.
Ex: hunting deer in authorized zone 2, etc or at rifle range xyz, etc. This does not take guns away, it just limits impulsive use. These are not great guns for home protection so that argument is BS.

That's just a couple thoughts.
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Lol
 
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GoDucks349 said:
I could suggest that the sale of semi automatic weapons and rifle to Caucasians in southern states be band. But we know that would cause a revolution in less than 24 hours...

I do think some things can be done. First, is to acknowledge the source of the problem. Second, is to require that these weapons be kept in a controlled environment such as a secured weapons storage facility. Anyone wanting to check out a weapon would have to submit a request 3 days in advance along with were they were going to use the weapon and for what purpose.
Ex: hunting deer in authorized zone 2, etc or at rifle range xyz, etc. This does not take guns away, it just limits impulsive use. These are not great guns for home protection so that argument is BS.

That's just a couple thoughts.
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And what is your reason to check your weapon out today?

Planning to shoot up my old school. I mean uh

AH-HA! Busted! Come back another time.
 
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McDad said:
I think im on the older side of our forum demographics. At White House High School, I took the TWRA hunter safety course. We shot skeet on school grounds during school. Many kids had deer rifles in their truck during hunting season.

The culture has shifted.
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I went to a one room school, remember getting indoor plumbing and remember getting electricity. Yea I'm 70... and lived in a rural ranching community as a kid.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
As I have said, discussions need to be had on all of the issues. It's criminal that neither side is willing to have such a discussion.
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The Manchin-Toomey bill was the last and best chance to get anything through that was "reasonable." However, as soon as the left started tossing riders onto the bill, it was doomed to failure.

Had they left well enough alone, it might have passed.
 
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Might of known that LG and his liberal butt buddies would politicize this tragedy. Never disappoint.
 
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Grand Vol said:
You think these mass shootings are spur of the moment and impulsive?
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I agree its not perfect, but some are and it could help. I don't pretend to have all the answers, it's just that we have to start someplace with something that will help.
 
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GoDucks349 said:
I agree its not perfect, but some are and it could help. I don't pretend to have all the answers, it's just that we have to start someplace with something that will help.
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Yet another typical liberal response...

"We need to do SOMETHING!"
 
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Grand Vol said:
Liberal answer to everything.

"More laws."

Because words on paper will help.
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In this situation, yes, a 19 year old with a history of behavioral issues should not be allowed to purchase a gun, much less this type of gun. Certainly, we can all agree on that.

If we start from that premise, the issue is how do we get there? Now, this morning it is for example being reported that the kid may have posted a comment on a youtube video and this was reported to the FBI. We don't yet know when he bought the gun in relation to that, but it mayt be that he already had it.

In that event, the FBI should be able to immediately look him up and go to him and investigate. If he had not already bought the gun, they should have placed him on a list and he should not have been allowed to buy a gun.

No solution is perfect. For example the Vegas shooter apparently had no outwardly known mental health issues, so he would not get on a list.

But the mere fact that we cannot be sure to stop them all is no excuse not to try to stop some.
 
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