Trump refers to immigrants from Haiti and Africa as being from s***hole countries.

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n_huffhines said:
You're not getting the point.

The point is if Trump believes Haitians don't have anything to offer because they come from ****holes, then he must also believe a large part of his base doesn't have anything to offer and he got elected by people that live in these ****holes. He's an elitist who thinks he is better than other people, including you. He wants to have Norwegian doctors here because they are better than the average peasant American. You're not good enough to be a doctor, is the message.

We want unskilled immigrant labor precisely because Americans are good doctors and are great at almost everything that requires high skill. We got the difficult **** covered. Why shouldn't we have hotel rooms cleaned for cheap? We shouldn't be protecting these jobs, we should be focusing on moving people away from those jobs.
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You do know that we have one small quote from entire meeting.....i agree with trump that we need to be selective about who we allow into our country......I may not agree with his ways of going about that but wish both sides could negotiate a way to come up with a competent immigration plan instead of dealing with this kind of petty back and forth..

I agree there are many ****holes in America and I wish we would concentrate on fixing our issues than trying to create more.
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
As the son of an immigrant, you can pound sand. I pity that your elitist viewpoint is so clouded. This is why Americans get a bad rap worldwide.

As for hookers, no need for those cows when I get all my milk for free. Good luck with that though.
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Having a Bammer as a parent doesn't make you the son of an immigrant.
 
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I am for legal immigration. In order to get her green card my wife had to fill out a form that showed a guarantee of financial support from an American citizen. Tax records were required to support the guarantee. Immigration of this type is fine with me regardless of the country of origin. I do not support immigrants coming here to jump on the government tit and not just because its tax dollars wasted. They will never become productive citizens, for the most part, because once on the tit hard to get off. The original immigrants that formed this nation would have loved to taste the tit.
 
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Remember, America is an awful, racist place that's not safe for minorities and there's no opportunities for anybody. But, also, you're a racist if you don't support infinite unrestricted immigration because how could you deprive foreign people of color all the opportunities America has to offer? Also, those people are fleeing violence from their homeland but it's racist to be concerned that the people committing the violence might also immigrate. The bad ones will stay put, because... um... they really like it there.
 
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Vols_Baby_Boomer said:
Remember, America is an awful, racist place that's not safe for minorities and there's no opportunities for anybody. But, also, you're a racist if you don't support infinite unrestricted immigration because how could you deprive foreign people of color all the opportunities America has to offer? Also, those people are fleeing violence from their homeland but it's racist to be concerned that the people committing the violence might also immigrate. The bad ones will stay put, because... um... they really like it there.
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Right.. if is the US is so awful... Why is the world trying to move here
 
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IPleadInsanity said:
I am for legal immigration. In order to get her green card my wife had to fill out a form that showed a guarantee of financial support from an American citizen. Tax records were required to support the guarantee. Immigration of this type is fine with me regardless of the country of origin. I do not support immigrants coming here to jump on the government tit and not just because its tax dollars wasted. They will never become productive citizens, for the most part, because once on the tit hard to get off. The original immigrants that formed this nation would have loved to taste the tit.
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You have to have immigration because you need low skilled workers to do the jobs that America's welfare class (the leisure class) won't do. What incentive would a person who is bringing in 50k+ in benefits have to get an entry level job making $7 an hour?
 
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n_huffhines said:
You're not getting the point.

The point is if Trump believes Haitians don't have anything to offer because they come from ****holes, then he must also believe a large part of his base doesn't have anything to offer and he got elected by people that live in these ****holes. He's an elitist who thinks he is better than other people, including you. He wants to have Norwegian doctors here because they are better than the average peasant American. You're not good enough to be a doctor, is the message.

We want unskilled immigrant labor precisely because Americans are good doctors and are great at almost everything that requires high skill. We got the difficult **** covered. Why shouldn't we have hotel rooms cleaned for cheap? We shouldn't be protecting these jobs, we should be focusing on moving people away from those jobs.
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President DJT tweets...

"The so-called bipartisan DACA deal presented yesterday to myself and a group of Republican Senators and Congressmen was a big step backwards. Wall was not properly funded, Chain & Lottery were made worse and USA would be forced to take large numbers of people from high crime....

....countries which are doing badly. I want a merit based system of immigration and people who will help take our country to the next level. I want safety and security for our people. I want to stop the massive inflow of drugs. I want to fund our military, not do a Dem defund....

....Because of the Democrats not being interested in life and safety, DACA has now taken a big step backwards. The Dems will threaten “shutdown,” but what they are really doing is shutting down our military, at a time we need it most. Get smart, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

Sadly, Democrats want to stop paying our troops and government workers in order to give a sweetheart deal, not a fair deal, for DACA. Take care of our Military, and our Country, FIRST!""
 
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IPleadInsanity said:
I am for legal immigration. In order to get her green card my wife had to fill out a form that showed a guarantee of financial support from an American citizen. Tax records were required to support the guarantee. Immigration of this type is fine with me regardless of the country of origin. I do not support immigrants coming here to jump on the government tit and not just because its tax dollars wasted. They will never become productive citizens, for the most part, because once on the tit hard to get off. The original immigrants that formed this nation would have loved to taste the tit.
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The "original immigrants" that came here were conquerors, settlers, pioneers, tradesmen, journeymen, and adventurers. Our ancestors tamed this wilderness.

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midnight orange said:
You have to have immigration because you need low skilled workers to do the jobs that America's welfare class (the leisure class) won't do. What incentive would a person who is bringing in 50k+ in benefits have to get an entry level job making $7 an hour?
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50K is entry level. $7 an hr is below the poverty line
 
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I am glad a lot of people on here aren't involved with Football recruiting. Could you imagine those teams? Lots of 1 and 2 stars with 5 star hearts...
 
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Vol0725 said:
President DJT tweets...

"The so-called bipartisan DACA deal presented yesterday to myself and a group of Republican Senators and Congressmen was a big step backwards. Wall was not properly funded, Chain & Lottery were made worse and USA would be forced to take large numbers of people from high crime....

....countries which are doing badly. I want a merit based system of immigration and people who will help take our country to the next level. I want safety and security for our people. I want to stop the massive inflow of drugs. I want to fund our military, not do a Dem defund....

....Because of the Democrats not being interested in life and safety, DACA has now taken a big step backwards. The Dems will threaten “shutdown,” but what they are really doing is shutting down our military, at a time we need it most. Get smart, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

Sadly, Democrats want to stop paying our troops and government workers in order to give a sweetheart deal, not a fair deal, for DACA. Take care of our Military, and our Country, FIRST!""
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Do you or Trump understand what a merit-based system is? Denying individuals because they come from a place that has high crime is not a merit system.

If he wants to end the influx of drugs from other countries, the easiest solution is decriminalize them. Tightening up immigration will not change anything in that regard.

Honestly, what person has said we should stop paying the troops? We could cut military spending by 1/3 and still give the troops a raise. Saying cut spending does not mean cut pay.
 
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Reminder, if tens of millions of high IQ whites were flooding into the country, libs would go ballistic because these "poor helpless immigrants" would not vote lib. But because low IQ third worlders vote for communists and Democrats, libs are waving them in like a third base coach. Libs wants to replace you and your fellow countrymen because you don't vote the way they want you to. Their ideas cannot win in the market place of ideas and debate, so they let foreigners invade and flood the country to destroy you and your homeland. There can be no compromise with lib traitors.
 
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midnight orange said:
You have to have immigration because you need low skilled workers to do the jobs that America's welfare class (the leisure class) won't do. What incentive would a person who is bringing in 50k+ in benefits have to get an entry level job making $7 an hour?
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Here’s my problem with this theory. The left used this argument, and it’s bull. I live in an area that’s literally covered with illegals. I’ve worked with them for nearly 20 years. One, they don’t make $7 an hour, there’s zero jobs around here that pay that low unless you’re flipping burgers, and I challenge any democrat to come to northeast Georgia, and show me the over pouring number of Hispanic McDonald’s employees. Two, the ones who do make a lower wage, say around $10 an hour, isn’t the same as me getting the same job. You guys never mention that they don’t pay taxes, nor their spouses, plus they get every free benefit known to man, and somehow, a crap load of money back at tax time. The Mexicans here brag about how stupid America is, because they easily get away with it. This isn’t rumor, I was a supervisor for 7 years at my previous job, and saw their checks. Money alone, their $10/hour is like $15/ hour for me, not counting government freebies. If they do have concerns, they easily have a new name and ss number the next day. I have many Hispanic friends, and a few that are illegal. However, you guys acting like they come in make by pitiful money on jobs that no one else will work is simply bull crap. I’d willingly take anyone wanting a tour to my local cal Walmart, or shopping in little Mexico, aka Gainesville Georgia, then you show me the poor Mexicans working for nothing on jobs that sorry white people allegedly won’t work. They have it made, and they’re rolling. Let the government roll out a fair tax, and see how many of these folks stick around. I’m not gonna say jmo, I live here with them, see it daily, and saying they work jobs we won’t isn’t right. They’re making more than most with the way it works.
 
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Vols_Baby_Boomer said:
Reminder, if tens of millions of high IQ whites were flooding into the country, libs would go ballistic because these "poor helpless immigrants" would not vote lib. But because low IQ third worlders vote for communists and Democrats, libs are waving them in like a third base coach. Libs wants to replace you and your fellow countrymen because you don't vote the way they want you to. Their ideas cannot win in the market place of ideas and debate, so they let foreigners invade and flood the country to destroy you and your homeland. There can be no compromise with lib traitors.
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Why on earth do you assume that? Where are these high IQ whites coming from? You think some scientist from Germany is going to come here and vote Trump?
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
They suck. Squalor. Harsh living conditions, poor people. What's your point? You think you're better than they are? You think they don't deserve a shot at the American dream because they were born into poverty? You might want to rethink your perspective in your 5* resort cupcake. I would call you arrogant, but it would fall on deaf ears.
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Orange_Crush said:
You see, I always get confused when people use words like "deserve" in discussions like this. Please make the case that Haitians "deserve" entry into the US. Or Africans. Or Norwegians. Rich, poor, white, black, brown...

Please make the case that any non-American "deserves" a shot at the American dream.

Be specific, please.

Thanks.
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Bump, OBV. I'm truly interested.
 
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