Much respect for CJP for finishing what he started.

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Much ado about nothing. Kiffin leaving in the night was something to be upset about. A real man does what we would all hope a DC would do if we were employing him...imagine that...and hes a villain.

Didnt Bammer get beat the last time a coordinator left before the playoffs (kiffin again IIRC) ? Maybe its important to keep the same coordinator running their side of the ball until the season is FINISHED??

For the record, i cant stand Bama, as I am a Vol. In a couple years though, when we are in Bamas shoes, i would like our coordinators to honor their commitment and stay thru the playoffs. I refuse to villify our new coach for doing the same thing.

Get over yourselves. Whining looks terrible on a grown man.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
You're a better person than me for going back and reading that drivel.
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well, i saw that post by AV saying he had already answered that question (what negative impact does this have on us?), and honestly, i was wondering what that answer was.

so i went back to see what it was.

couldn't find it. just philosophical differences that boil down to "i don't like it".
 
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jakez4ut said:
so i went back and re read the thread just to see if i missed something.

and the only thing i can come up with for the folks that are "against" CJP coaching these play off games is that they just don't like it.

no one has given a tangible reason why it's bad for us. not 1 reason.

i've ripples in a pool. priorities. organizational duty. possibly misevaluation rosters. but nothing that says this why it's not good for TN and it's long term prospects as a football program........

Only one person was honest, and said it....they just didn't like it.

the rest is just drivel to support some narrative that has no basis in what is actually happening........
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Our players were some of the weakest and worst conditioned in the conference. They have likely gone over a month without being told to work out. Even when they were told last season we saw the results. Getting them in shape for spring should be a top priority but is pretty hard to do from Tuscaloosa. When you start behind everyone else it doesn't help to take some time off

Is that not a tangible enough reason for you?
 
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There's fandom and there's business. Fans can be pissed that Pruitt is coaching Bama instead of being all in at Tennessee. As a coach, he's completing a business obligation to his prior company before taking on his next job. Some seem to think that by being in crimson now, he's ultimately going to try and screw this program from the inside once here full time. That's fan mentality, not business mentality.
 
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beachmaster said:
This all day. Yes, he committed to bama, but he also made a commitment to our team as well. He needs to be doing work for UT, not UA. HIs tenure at bama ended when he accepted the UT job. You can talk all the crap you want about his loyalty to the bama players, but that doesn't help our school. To hell with the bama players.
Rant over.
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Then we would likely have a different coach because I don't think he takes the job without being able to finish the season at BAMA. The staff he has assembled to date is on campus and working as directed by Pruitt. The effect his absence from Knoxville will have the football program is negligible. He will be back a day after the dead period ends. All he can do now is call recruits and he can do that from anywhere. I personally think it does help our school when UT is mentioned during the playoff games because BAMA's DC is going to be the UT HC while his defense is kicking ass.
The screw everyone else attitude that you and others have is one of the biggest problems in our society today. People only think of themselves and hold little regard for integrity of others or their own. Sad.
 
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utvolpj said:
Our players were some of the weakest and worst conditioned in the conference. They have likely gone over a month without being told to work out. Even when they were told last season we saw the results. Getting them in shape for spring should be a top priority but is pretty hard to do from Tuscaloosa. When you start behind everyone else it doesn't help to take some time off
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i honestly don't know the answer to this, so if someone does, i'd be happy to know, but how much organized S&C is happening over winter break anyway?

but i agree, and i believe i siap, s&c is the one thing that i would agree with wishing already having done and up and running.

of course, if you believe some of the rumors on some big name s&c potential hires, it may still wind up being in the long term interests to wait until after the playoffs are over, again rendering it a moot point. we'll see if that actually pans out though.
 
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utvolpj said:
Our players were some of the weakest and worst conditioned in the conference. They have likely gone over a month without being told to work out. Even when they were told last season we saw the results. Getting them in shape for spring should be a top priority but is pretty hard to do from Tuscaloosa. When you start behind everyone else it doesn't help to take some time off

Is that not a tangible enough reason for you?
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Pruitt is not the S&C coach. You don't really think he going to be in the weight room everyday with the players do you, because that is not his job.
Funny how everyone just assumes folks are just sitting around twiddling their thumbs because the boss is out of the office.
 
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utvolpj said:
A football coach's contract is irrelevant outside of money owed. It's simply a game for agents and ADs. When has a contract prevented a coach from taking another job? When has it prevented a coach from being fired?

Your question about smart is also useless since his reasons are completely separate from Pruitt (plus he's at uga so who cares). Should we bring up Kiffin too?
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Just answer the question about why Kirby did it then instead of skirting the edges and not addressing the point.

2ndly if it was your cash being spent the dang contract would be relevant and you can bring Lame into it too if you want but I know you know about as much as I do about that which is nothing. All you are really doing is being speculative and so am I to a degree but I know the point I'm trying to make is that it's no big deal and it's not gonna have a negative impact on UT's football program. Read above what Jake posted. You, like those to which he referenced simply don't like it but when it comes down to giving a good reason for not liking it you don't have an answer.
 
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allvol123 said:
Wrong again. You are consistent.
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dude you haven't said one meaningful thing in this whole conversation.

all you have to say is "i don't like it". you don't even have to give a reason why.

not sure why you think you have to.
 
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jimed1 said:
Pruitt is not the S&C coach. You don't really think he going to be in the weight room everyday with the players do you, because that is not his job.
Funny how everyone just assumes folks are just sitting around twiddling their thumbs because the boss is out of the office.
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Pruitt actually has a bigger job which involves hiring a s&c coach. He has yet to do that. Who is currently managing the off season conditioning program?
 
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jakez4ut said:
so i went back and re read the thread just to see if i missed something.

and the only thing i can come up with for the folks that are "against" CJP coaching these play off games is that they just don't like it.

no one has given a tangible reason why it's bad for us. not 1 reason.

i've ripples in a pool. priorities. organizational duty. possibly misevaluation rosters. but nothing that says this why it's not good for TN and it's long term prospects as a football program........

Only one person was honest, and said it....they just didn't like it.

the rest is just drivel to support some narrative that has no basis in what is actually happening........
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You not agreeing with the reasons is not the same them not being valid. There is work to be done and he is not currently dedicated to it.

That is fact.
 
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Biopsyman said:
Again.. Most companies would encourage you go and be apart of your new organization.. You mind is already gone looking forward to the work that is ahead of you...
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In that case wouldn’t Saban have said Get Thee Gone? (or if you prefer, GTFO)
 
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utvolpj said:
Our players were some of the weakest and worst conditioned in the conference. They have likely gone over a month without being told to work out. Even when they were told last season we saw the results. Getting them in shape for spring should be a top priority but is pretty hard to do from Tuscaloosa. When you start behind everyone else it doesn't help to take some time off

Is that not a tangible enough reason for you?
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i responded before your edit...long term, it's really not. especially if we land one of the big fish s&c coaches after the playoff.

this is a short term issue, that can be handled by others on campus right now. and i'm not sure how much organized s&c is/was/would be going on thru winter break anyway.....? do agree though, if there is/was/should be any going on during winter break, we are missing out right now.
 
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jakez4ut said:
dude you haven't said one meaningful thing in this whole conversation.

all you have to say is "i don't like it". you don't even have to give a reason why.

not sure why you think you have to.
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Oh stfu. Your standards suck. A you problem.
 
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tbones0711 said:
Just answer the question about why Kirby did it then instead of skirting the edges and not addressing the point.
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please don't misunderstand and think I'm avoiding your question. I've answered it already but will do it one more time and remove your confusion - Idgaf about Kirby Smart and his reasons. It doesn't mean a damn thing to me or the situation at UT.
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2ndly if it was your cash being spent the dang contract would be relevant and you can bring Lame into it too if you want but I know you know about as much as I do about that which is nothing. All you are really doing is being speculative and so am I to a degree but I know the point I'm trying to make is that it's no big deal and it's not gonna have a negative impact on UT's football program. Read above what Jake posted. You, like those to which he referenced simply don't like it but when it comes down to giving a good reason for not liking it you don't have an answer.
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I've given a good reason that you and Jake have skipped multiple times. His staff is incomplete in major areas
 
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allvol123 said:
You not agreeing with the reasons is not the same them not being valid. There is work to be done and he is not currently dedicated to it.

That is fact.
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it's a fact you keep saying that. it is not a fact that you've established any negative effects to TN because of these two games.
 
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utvolpj said:
Our players were some of the weakest and worst conditioned in the conference. They have likely gone over a month without being told to work out. Even when they were told last season we saw the results. Getting them in shape for spring should be a top priority but is pretty hard to do from Tuscaloosa. When you start behind everyone else it doesn't help to take some time off

Is that not a tangible enough reason for you?
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Kids aren't even on campus for the most part. They aren't doing any work right not regardless of if Pruitt was here or not.
 
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tbones0711 said:
Does anyone hear the dawg fans bi*#hing over this petty chit? Just yesterday I read threads about how bad UGA fans were and today Vol fans(?) seem to be lower than them.
It could be a case of "being written into contract" that states he has to coach until the last game. Why did Smart do the same thing 2 seasons ago? I'm sure UT football will survive plus it's a positive look,IMO. Recruiting contact can't start until after 1/18/18 anyway and this staff is earning respect in that important area.

We are trying to get 3-4 of the top players in the country to sign with UT and Bama is our biggest challenge. Pruitt coaching there shows he's active,(getting exposure), at a time when many are dormant. He'll receive more exposure come Mon.,1/8 because UGA will bring a better passing attack than Clemson. Many feel this is the best way to beat Bama. Our new head coach being on the battlefield in the biggest game of the year between two of our bigger rivals can only bode well for UT in the near future. Don't forget about Scherrer still coaching LBer's for UGA. UT has a big need at that position and having these two coaches recruiting for that talent is a plus.
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What is Kirby Smart's alma mater?


Yes it is petty, but it goes to a core issue that I have a hard time getting over. I will with time, but the optics of it suck donkey balls right now. I hope his defense gets bum rushed next week. No, wait. I hate Georgia too. I hope a big hole opens up on the 50 and swallows everybody.
 
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utvolpj said:
Our players were some of the weakest and worst conditioned in the conference. They have likely gone over a month without being told to work out. Even when they were told last season we saw the results. Getting them in shape for spring should be a top priority but is pretty hard to do from Tuscaloosa. When you start behind everyone else it doesn't help to take some time off

Is that not a tangible enough reason for you?
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No.....they have to be on campus to be in UT's S&C program. Many, (a whopping large %), are currently enjoying the Holidays with family members. Is that your only bullet ? Digging pretty deep to come up with another answer, I suppose.
 
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k-town_king said:
Kids aren't even on campus for the most part. They aren't doing any work right not regardless of if Pruitt was here or not.
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They were in December and should have goals/programs over the break. They have nothing and are likely getting worse over the break
 
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