What if we start out 2-5

#102
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Glocker_Alum_2005 said:
Very plausible we start we out 2-5 after the Bama game next year. If we are struggling on offense in particular who all is going to be clamoring for Mike Leach and blaming Fulmer for being to prideful to hire him?
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Here is what I am clamoring for............YOU to get a clue!

Please don't lose any sleep about what the record will be at any point next year...because IF somewhere in the crevices of your imagination you think Leach would have been better..........it doesn't matter......You will never recover....:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
 
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#103
Reality v/s miraculous expectations: Everybody will be on one of those 2 bandwagons. Of course, that is just me.
 
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jasonvol18 said:
The schedule really isn't any more difficult than it was this year. W.Va may be a bit more difficult than GA Tech but not by much. Will depend on what Grier decides to do. And W.Va is a middle of the road Big 12 team and not a game we should lose. The first 4 games are all very winnable then highly probable we lose to GA, AU and Ala in the next 3 games. I also think GA takes a step back next season with all the experience they will be losing. But still counting that as a loss. Then SCe is a toss up, we win our last OOC game, then our last 4 games are all in state so we never even have to leave TN in the month of November. We are expected to win those last 4 most years and very easily could with 3 home games then a trip to Nashville. I think the ceiling is 8 wins plus a bowl next season and the absolute worst we should be is 6-6. Our swing games will be W.Va, Fla and S.Carol. Winning 2 of 3 definitely are possible and with some luck all 3. GA, AU and Ala are pretty much for sure loses. Outside of those 3 anything is possible. All 6 could be won or at worse we go 3-3 but my guess is atleast 4-2 plus 3-0 on the other 3 OOC games. We only play 3 games outside of TN on the opponent's home field next year. Then throw in the neutral site game vs W.Va where we will have the major fan advantage. .The chance we start 2-5 is very small. My bet is 4-3 or 5-2 at the very best with breaks going our way and very few injuries. Then the worst case scenario is 3-4. We have no business losing to W.Va on a neutral field and Fla will be beatable at home as well.JMO but the schedule is slightly tougher overall next season than this year's was. Just swap LSU and AU and having to go to the Plains and play which is very difficult to do. That game is what makes next year's a slight bit tougher than this years but really top to bottom are pretty equal.
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Many salient points. To augment them, I add:

No offensive line outside of Trey
New offensive scheme
New base defense
No HC Experience on staff at P5 level.
Will Grier for Heisman in his own home town on 9/1/18
Fla will be better
UGA returns Fromm & Swift plus a top 3 Class

6-6 will a bowl win is looking pretty good.
Like HCJP and ready to wait until 2019-2020 for the payoff in years 2 & 3.

Have made plans to attend the O/W game in April.

GBO!
 
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Sat330pmAppt said:
2-6 start with a 6-6 invite to Shreveport or Birmingham has been my predication throughout the time from the Departure of our former coach until now.

2019 will be a terrific year at 8-4 or 9-3.

“It’s the end of the world as we know it...and I feel fine”

Aw-ite!?!

GBO!!!
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There is no way we start 2-6 next season. At the absolute worse 4-4. If the Butch and the previous staff was here maybe 2-6 but don't even think they would start 2-6. There's more talent than some give us credit for and definitely better than 2-6 talent.We shouldn't lose to W.Va or To Fla at home to start the season.R really no reason we can't start 4-0. Then that 4 game stretch after that will be brutal. Atleast the first 3 will be not just I count SC as a brutal game.Then the last 4 are very winnable.
 
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2018 hasn’t been played and y’all talking about a losing 2019??? OMG!!!! CALM DOWN!!! This new era is just getting started!!! It’s gonna be tough next year yes we know this much but if he did start out really bad in 2019 then we know he’s not cut out for HC. Give him TIME!!!! I’m waiting for 2 years to see if he indeed was the right hire...
 
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hexnut said:
You are full of it.
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He's 100% right. The cupboard is not anywhere close to a 2-6 start bare. Not sure any of our first 4 opponent's will be ranked. It will also depend on how much immediate help Pruitt gets in here over the next few months.
 
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#111
Honestly thought you were talking about a 2-5-4 defense...Until I read your OMG post about starting out...We don't even know if we will be fielding a team next year...

Remember according to the last two coaches we had before Pruitt, next year is Year 0 and we get participation trophies.
 
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jasonvol18 said:
There is no way we start 2-6 next season. At the absolute worse 4-4. If the Butch and the previous staff was here maybe 2-6 but don't even think they would start 2-6. There's more talent than some give us credit for and definitely better than 2-6 talent.We shouldn't lose to W.Va or To Fla at home to start the season.R really no reason we can't start 4-0. Then that 4 game stretch after that will be brutal. Atleast the first 3 will be not just I count SC as a brutal game.Then the last 4 are very winnable.
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I hope that we are better than that.

Muschamp has never lost to the Vols.
Bank of America stadium on 9/1 will be a 50/50 split at best
Fla will be better

I sincerely hope that we can get through the summer with healthy OL, DL & LB’s.

Quote me on this:

“I like Coach no matter what our record is in 2018, Aw-ite???”
 
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No worries, as the off season moves towards spring - predictions will move towards 9-3 & 10-2 and a few 11-1, happens every year
 
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#117
OP, you're asking the impossible, for a portion of VN to be realistic with their expectations.

If we're 2-5, prepare for wrath.

If we're 5-2, prepare for possible playoff talk.
 
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Sat330pmAppt said:
Many salient points. To augment them, I add:

No offensive line outside of Trey
New offensive scheme
New base defense
No HC Experience on staff at P5 level.
Will Grier for Heisman in his own home town on 9/1/18
Fla will be better
UGA returns Fromm & Swift plus a top 3 Class

6-6 will a bowl win is looking pretty good.
Like HCJP and ready to wait until 2019-2020 for the payoff in years 2 & 3.

Have made plans to attend the O/W game in April.

GBO!
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Don't think anyone knows what we have, especially on the offensive line. An offensive scheme change can make all the difference in the world along with Coach's who know how to develop talent.Doubt either offensive scheme gets a major overhaul next season, Probably tweaked more than anything. Kirby, Richt, Fulmer, Fisher, Dabo and numerous others went straight from a coordinator to a HC and it worked out great for them all. No reason to think it won't for Pruitt either. There's no guarantee Grier even returns next season and they aren't a great team with him. They will be 7-6 after a loss to Utah and we will have the crowd advantage with the game being in N.Carolina. We don't know UF will be any better they showed zero signs of being any better than us. And they also will be going through scheme changes as well. Fla is in the exact same boat as us with no offensive or QB identity.P Lu's it's a home game so advantage us. GA does return Fromm but his security blanket's are gone and won't have them to lean on. Georgia will definitely take a step back and a top 5 class doesn't guarantee success. Ask Butch. 6 wins is the absolute bottom of the mark next season. How quickly players buy in and what immediate help JP gets over the next few months will most determine how many over 6 we win. Also will depend on how guys recover from injuries. Having a real Oline And QB coach will be the biggest difference maker for that side of the ball. And an OC that actually knows how to playcall. You see it happen every year with coaching change's. A change for the better makes all the difference in the world for players. Especially if Butch was as disliked as it appears that he was. Players aren't gonna bust their a$$ for him like they would for a coach they would run through walls for. If Mizzou,UK and Scarol can win what they did this year with inferior recruiting classes then we definitely can get to 7-9 wins. And none of the 4 OOC teams have recruiting classes even close to ours. It's more of a mindset change and having coach's the players believe in and wanna play for. No we don't have Playoff type talent but definitely can win 7-9 next season with what we have now.
 
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ETV said:
OP, you're asking the impossible, for a portion of VN to be realistic with their expectations.

If we're 2-5, prepare for wrath.

If we're 5-2, prepare for possible playoff talk.
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Don't see either of those being majority of the fans reaction. There will be some who have horrible football IQ and are just not realistic in how they think but very few beleeeedatttt start 2-5 or will be playoff bound next year. Neither will happen. We will be a 7-9 win team depending on how things go during the season. Nobody with any intelligence is gonna lose it if we go 6-6. I don't see it being any worse than 6-6, that's the absolute bottom that we hit.A and being a playoff team definitely isn't realistic for next season. The ones who would complain are the ones who are just looking for a reason to do so and will find something regardless to be bitter about.
 
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ScreaminVolHawkins said:
What if we actually win an SEC game?
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