Official Jon Gruden Thread XLVII

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UTVolinExile said:
No one was ready for last Sunday. Anyone who says they were is lying. I don't think VolNation truly realizes how close we came to disaster. Without the leak from inside the AD when Currie got on the plane to Ohio, we would be sunk.

No one should make any assumptions about Gruden. He is the first choice, and he has not said no. Fulmer will sell him hard, and we will just have to see.

Edit: not disagreeing with knuck at all, just saying that it's entirely possible that Gruden re-evaluated things after last Sunday.
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What is amazing to me is Haslam and Currie thinking they could pull of the Schiano deal. Even if they did (and thank God that didn't happen) it was going to p*** off all of the other boosters who thought Gruden was a lock before he sent Currie out on the rouge route for Schiano. What were they thinking ? Haslam had to believe he had so much control that he could dictate and whether anyone else liked it or not they would just have to eat the **** sandwich. I just can't rationalize that in my mind how they thought they could get away with that.
 
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LakeMaryFLVol said:
"These guys don't lose" statement from Beav early on is echoing in my mind today
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When that gets brought up, I would humbly suggest considering that "these guys" were literally one phone call away from losing last Sunday.

MIT and others like classical references, so they should consider that hubris often results in a visit from Nemesis.
 
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IMALLVOL22 said:
Everybody is tired of hearing about Jon Gruden. He's not coming. So just stop.
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UTVolinExile said:
No one was ready for last Sunday. Anyone who says they were is lying. I don't think VolNation truly realizes how close we came to disaster. Without the leak from inside the AD when Currie got on the plane to Ohio, we would be sunk.

No one should make any assumptions about Gruden. He is the first choice, and he has not said no. Fulmer will sell him hard, and we will just have to see.

Edit: not disagreeing with knuck at all, just saying that it's entirely possible that Gruden re-evaluated things after last Sunday.
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Well actually things are better than before with Currie gone. Heck the media blows everything up, things have changed for the better. Good grief everyone and their grandmother knows many at ESPN and the media can't stand UT. If this were Ohio St, ND, or USC they tune would have been totally different. I don't see how the media not liking what the fans did in response to Currie and Haslams backstabbing makes him not want the job. Maybe it does but I have to believe if he is truly connected to all things UT he sees this as the sign things are changing. If he takes the job the state of Tennessee is united bigger than ever, and nobody Haslam or otherwise could stop it. Bottom line I think he has to see it as a positive, he has to know of the power struggle. In fact if he takes it more reporters will flock to Fulmer and the fans side of what was going on and it will truly be the end of any Haslam reign, no matter if your brother is the governor or not. And as far as that the governor is not in a good position, I don't care how much money his family has. It's a new day at UT, and Haslams reign is not in the PLAN!:rock:
 
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UTVolinExile said:
When that gets brought up, I would humbly suggest considering that "these guys" were literally one phone call away from losing last Sunday.

MIT and others like classical references, so they should consider that hubris often results in a visit from Nemesis.
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But the point is someone made a call and set off the alarm..so yes agreed we were on the precipice of perdition..And then we were saved,,Someone was in place to blow the whistle
 
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lifeVol said:
What is amazing to me is Haslam and Currie thinking they could pull of the Schiano deal. Even if they did (and thank God that didn't happen) it was going to p*** off all of the other boosters who thought Gruden was a lock before he sent Currie out on the rouge route for Schiano. What were they thinking ? Haslam had to believe he had so much control that he could dictate and whether anyone else liked it or not they would just have to eat the **** sandwich. I just can't rationalize that in my mind how they thought they could get away with that.
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Because they flat out didn't care. Nothing but EGO's and power on their minds. Heck even the media knows, they just don't want to go there. :rock:
 
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onevol74 said:
Originally, I was on the Gruden train. But the problem with this conspiracy is that originally MIT, Bubba, and others in the know all said that Gruden was a done deal and that the major boosters only had to convince UT we could do this. That was before Butch was fired.

After Butch was fired they changed their story into we had to convince Gruden to take the job. Either the original conspiracy was untrue from the beginning or the major players that were pushing the Gruden train were just as incompetent as the UT administration.

Another fact brought to this board was that Gruden was using Haslam’s plane to go wherever he wanted. Then we hear that Haslam and Currie did not even want Gruden because of the control issues.

Well, Haslam and Currie are out of the way. What is keeping UT from offering Gruden and him taking the job? Nothing. If Gruden is named coach I will eat my words and come back for the heat.

But the evidence proves this is a major troll job.
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Alternate explanation:

The Gruden negotiations were real for all concerned with the exception of John Currie. John Currie ran a con at the direction of Haslam, to make everyone else think Gruden was happening, while Currie negotiated in secrecy with Schiano. In fact, he did his job so well that his con was not discovered until early last Sunday morning. If not for that early morning leak, we would have Haslam, Currie, and Greg Schiano today.
 
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Behr said:
Fwiw. The phone call did happen.

They haven't lost, yet.
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But the phone call was not of their doing.

Agreed that great teams have to also get lucky sometimes. But you don't get to take credit for the luck. You chalk it up to Providence and move on.
 
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wildorange said:
Because they flat out didn't care. Nothing but EGO's and power on their minds. Heck even the media knows, they just don't want to go there. :rock:
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Jimmy had enough kahunas to call a state senator and tell her to stfu. I mean, that's some serious self-importance. The guy thought he had enough power to threaten a state senator over a coaching search.
 
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