Don't be suprised if Currie lands in Washington St. This whole Leach thing was orchestrated by Currie to make himself look better.
The current president of Washington St. was the president of Kansas St. while Currie was there. This is an orchestrated event by Currie who knew he was out. Thats why he went silent last night.
Heh, yeah, I caught that and corrected it as soon as I caught up to that post.
That's the funny thing about these mega-threads...you are always providing responses about 20-40 posts ahead of where you are reading. So you're talking into your own future, so to speak.
Has anyone considered that UT football was entirely controlled by legacy coaches for 32 years, from '76 - '08? Maybe, just maybe, Haslam wanted a piece of that pie and set it in motion with the ouster of Fulmer. The Hasbeens have never been told no, not one they've acquiesced to. These self-proclaimed successes only upped the ante for how far the narrative would be pushed. Even at the expense of Ayres Hall crumbling, it's a message.
I've seen wilder conspiracies, but thought I'd keep with the times.
Okay, so the limit of your strategic vision is getting Fulmer, Blackburn, or Davis hired as AD.
That's it.
You can see no further than that. I mean, man, we all see that. We've all become aware that Currie is fired, and that he needs to be replaced. And we all already knew about Fulmer and Blackburn as good options, now Davis has been added to the mix.
But if that's the extent of your understanding of the way ahead, you're running just as blind as the rest of us.
And if that's all there is, fine. Good. Let's get one of those three gentlemen, and move on to finding the best coach we can.
That means there is no Booster Battle going on in the background, not really, and that we're not really curtailing the Haslam influence on the program in any permanent or long-term way.
Okay.
But if that's true, let's stop pretending that Beav and Bubba and even AV have been anything more than rabble rousers.
That's all I'm asking. For clarity about these supposed behind-the-scenes moves. Or to push them aside for good.
Dude, what exactly are you looking for? A detailed flow chart with names, dates, and times? Of course there's a booster battle. The battle is that Haslam has been a tin-pot dictator running the AD's office, and various other boosters want to end that. Could they be making a play to set up their own little oligarchy? Maybe. Or maybe they want a return to the way it should be, which is an AD who is not 100% beholden to anyone, with numerous booster behind the scenes with influence, but no one booster vain enough to expect total authority.
A new, independent AD picks us a new football coach, and that's it. Will Haslam give up and call it a day? Who knows. Maybe there will be future fights to maintain a new status quo.
Since you brought up the Revolution metaphor, did our founders draft the Articles of Confederation in 1776 in Philadelphia? Or the Constitution? Did they even know they would have the chance to draft either? No, they only knew that they had had enough of King George III.
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THIS IS THE JON GRUDEN THREAD. Not The Dan Mullen Thread, or the Scott Frost Thread, or the Chip Kelly Thread. Get it?
NO POLITICS.Doesn't matter if you voted for Trump, Hillary, Peyton, or Rupert.
NO TROLLING. Quit playin games with our heart.
Everybody be nice, or Freak will boot your butt. Just ask Grude_Awakening. Pecker. Need an example of what's allowed and not allowed? [post=14635331]Freak has you covered[/post].
Most Vol Nugs are crap. Please refrain from posting and quoting them.
Our AD is John Currie, not Curry like chicken curry, and not Jon open.
It's Jon Gruden, not John.
Its Haslam, not Haslem.
Its Charlie Ergen, not Ergin.
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Off-topic discussion is acceptable.
Please keep everything as PG as possible! Standard VN rule there.
Remember when this is all done, Gruden or no Gruden, these threads have made some fond memories for all of us. Lets make it memorable!
I went to all the old threads and compiled how many times each of us posted in each thread. This is a crude list of how many times each user posted in the first 45 Gruden Threads. I will figure out if I can somehow harvest this data for other useful information for you kids. This data does not include any data from Gruden XLVI and on.
Congratulations, Coasty, on continuing your record! 7,735 Gruden Thread posts and counting.
The list is 1,394 lines long (below), so click at your own risk! You can CTRL+F or "Find in page" or whatever method your browser has, and find your username. I'm personally proud of my 1,105 posts, which is good enough for 55th place.
This is very impressive! If you do find a way to use the data at a later time to figure who the Nega-Grudes are would be awesome. Just in case we do get him. So we can black ball them.
Heh, yeah, I caught that and corrected it as soon as I caught up to that post.
That's the funny thing about these mega-threads...you are always providing responses about 20-40 posts ahead of where you are reading. So you're talking into your own future, so to speak.
That means there is no Booster Battle going on in the background, not really, and that we're not really curtailing the Haslam influence on the program in any permanent or long-term way.
Okay.
But if that's true, let's stop pretending that Beav and Bubba and even AV have been anything more than rabble rousers.
That's all I'm asking. For clarity about these supposed behind-the-scenes moves. Or to push them aside for good.
Too much changing so quickly that I really don't want to spend much time on this.
If Deerpark and/or Larry brought the info that Beaver did, would this theory that so many believe in make more sense?
It comes down to what I said earlier. No one really knows exactly what's going on, and the story/theory that's coming from Beaver, Bubba and the little info AV has brought, seems to be playing out right before us.... as much as any other theory.
I think it's left up to you whether you believe, or how much you believe, in that theory.
If you think you're going to get any absolute plans or facts from anyone here... Lol.
Dude, what exactly are you looking for? A detailed flow chart with names, dates, and times? Of course there's a booster battle. The battle is that Haslam has been a tin-pot dictator running the AD's office, and various other boosters want to end that. Could they be making a play to set up their own little oligarchy? Maybe. Or maybe they want a return to the way it should be, which is an AD who is not 100% beholden to anyone, with numerous booster behind the scenes with influence, but no one booster vain enough to expect total authority.
A new, independent AD picks us a new football coach, and that's it. Will Haslam give up and call it a day? Who knows. Maybe there will be future fights to maintain a new status quo.
Since you brought up the Revolution metaphor, did our founders draft the Articles of Confederation in 1776 in Philadelphia? Or the Constitution? Did they even know they would have the chance to draft either? No, they only knew that they had had enough of King George III.
Let's focus on the media from all over especially local, and black list as many as we can there.
The only way any of these people should be let back on campus is with repentance and grovelling. We don't need them, I have a feeling they will need us and want nothing more than to be a part of the new powerhouse program bout to rise back up.
What if since Sundays Schiano mess, Fulmer, Manning, Blackburn, Ergen boosters, and Gruden all have been in the the ear of Bev. What if she fired Currie to announce Gruden today at 4pm.What if Bev has been refusing Curries efforts so she could make this announcement. What if its all finally happening.
Fits Deerhunters info as this would have been talked about in the AD.
Explains AV absence since Sunday, (Couldnt risk commenting on it)
Explains MIT Beavers work on twitter.
Explains the sudden flood of leaks as to the coach candidates.
The pieces fit. The timeline fits. It could be fiction, but never say never to nothing.
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