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Nothing about this search makes any sense.

Never say never to nothing

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Sumlin underwhelmed every year at A&M without Manziel. We would run him outta town in 4 years with this record.
2012 11–2
2013 9–4
2014 8–5
2015 8–5
2016 8–5
2017 7–5

Still the best candidate we’ve had so far. He’d kill it here. He beat our best team. Let’s go
 
Sumlin underwhelmed every year at A&M without Manziel. We would run him outta town in 4 years with this record.
2012 11–2
2013 9–4
2014 8–5
2015 8–5
2016 8–5
2017 7–5

You never know what he would do at a good stop. But those numbers right there are much better than what Doeren would have done. And if that happens and he’s ran off in 4 years, the talent will be here and this job will look much better
 
Sumlin underwhelmed every year at A&M without Manziel. We would run him outta town in 4 years with this record.
2012 11–2
2013 9–4
2014 8–5
2015 8–5
2016 8–5
2017 7–5

Before Hank shows up and tells you to stop holding it against him that he brought Manziel in and developed him, I will just say that he did that against a darn tough schedule, and it’s a whole lot better than anything this program has seen in over a decade. I’ll take it.
 
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It honestly should have been like this the whole time. This why programs hire firms to do the leg work and see who is actually interested and who is not. So the program doesn't look like it is in complete disarray!

Yeah but we are in such disarray we didn’t hire a search firm.

Search firms also tell the AD, “if you hire that dude, your fan base will revolt!”
 
change of scenery has lately proven to turn things around for some coaches. He still beat our best team. He would do well in the East.
 
Great. Him and Jimmy are in the same boat.

Hubbs at least tries. Both are lost.

Do you not think that Sumlin doesn't know that Chavis' inability to build and call a defense is the reason he is unemployed today? Geez, Jimmy.

Jimmy Hyams is an old tool in the box that is worn out and needs replacing, but you keep around just in case. His comments on Sumlin in the early segment were really stupid. He then follows it up talking about Kevin Steele being a candidate and saying nothing negative about him. They still haven't learned a thing. They just don't believe the core fans know about football. They think the loud, stupid outliers are the core fans.

Any of us could pull somebody's best year out of an analysis to make a guy look worse and make a case for not hiring a guy not named Saban or Meyer. Sumlin takes care of one side of the ball and is a quality recruiter and person. He has to hire a quality DC/staff (No Chavis) that removes the issue on the other side. He picks up at least a win a year more by being in the East with even a mid-performing D.

I would ride with Sumlin.
 
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Sumlin underwhelmed every year at A&M without Manziel. We would run him outta town in 4 years with this record.
2012 11–2
2013 9–4
2014 8–5
2015 8–5
2016 8–5
2017 7–5

I’m fine with Sumlin. Fresh start and maybe he’d recapture that 2012 magic.
 
Hubbs at least tries. Both are lost.

Do you not think that Sumlin doesn't know that Chavis' inability to build and call a defense is the reason he is unemployed today? Geez, Jimmy.

Jimmy Hyams is an old tool in the box that is worn out and needs replacing, but you keep around just in case. His comments on Sumlin in the early segment were really stupid. He then follows it up talking about Kevin Steele being a candidate and saying nothing negative about him. They still haven't learned a thing. They just don't believe the core fans know about football. They think the loud, stupid outliers are the core fans.

Any of us could pull somebody's best year out of an analysis to make a guy look worse and make a case for not hiring a guy not named Saban or Meyer. Sumlin takes care of one side of the ball and is a quality recruiter and person. He has to hire a quality DC/staff (No Chavis) that removes the issue on the other side. He picks up at least a win a year more by being in the East with even a mid-performing D.

I would ride with Sumlin.

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Sumlin underwhelmed every year at A&M without Manziel. We would run him outta town in 4 years with this record.
2012 11–2
2013 9–4
2014 8–5
2015 8–5
2016 8–5
2017 7–5

But that is playing in the WEST with Bama, LSU, Auburn, every year. And Ole Miss and Miss ST were good during those years and Arky was always pretty competitive too. In the EAST he would have been a 10 win coach those years!
 
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