Official Jon Gruden Thread XLIV

[37L1]

It's as simple as this for me now:

Until Currie is gone, my family will not spend another cent on anything UT.

Even if you trot out ole Tee.

Coach, I'm becoming a big fan.

 

[Dudleys87]

I'm going to be honest, as much as I can't stand Stephen A, he makes some valid points.

Not that I want Schiano coaching UT, but I would hope OSU vetted him before hiring him. I would hope UT did the same.

In today's world it's easy to create outrage with just a tiny spark.

I've got 100$ that says they didn't

Nothing from Currie would make me believe he did any leg work other than a phone call to gauge interest

 

[G8rh8r]

Yep Alabama was in as bad a shape as we were not that long ago.

Mr. Price like the hookers!

:thud:

I remember mike price.

We can arise from this mess, but it will take a Saban-seque hire. Not Schiano, not Bobo, not Norvell.

 

[UneducatedGuess]

Booster war has begun and it is long overdue.

Bama had to kick Bryant Jrs ass to the curb before they could align the stars. Tennessee is in that process.

Unfortunately, it’s about 12 months too late. Gruden was the scape goat. He will never coach here.

 

[volgr]

I agree with this. If there were to be any hope of getting Gruden, it would only exist after cleaning house in this manner.

Currie lied, FLAT OUT LIED, to big donor boosters. How do you repaid that? How do you ever get that trust back? Haslam better foot the entire $340M renovation.

 

[93TNVol]

Rev, at this point it's not about the coach, it's bigger. You could bring in the nicest guy with solid credentials and no baggage, but with Haslam and his agent at AD, things will continue to be a circus.

Personally, I can't be involved in giving my support to a program that has those individuals making the top decisions. No offense to the players or any other coach that may be hired.

This isn't about Gruden anymore. I still think he would be the best option for our program, but the leadership issues have to be solved first and foremost.

I've sent my emails today. I encourage everyone else to do the same. Be respectful and polite, but firm. We can't support this program as long as Haslam is driving.

For me, it never was about Gruden himself, rather more of what he represents....HOPE, some degree of orange blood, dignity, family. Things on the hill are better when we are like family. I hated the way majors went out. I hated the way Fulmer went out. It was like kicking a family member to the curb and moving the next best hot stripper in. I dunno. Gonna just stfu and gtfo, I have spent too much time on here in the last 24.

Stay the course, sooner or later it will be Football Time in Tennessee the way it's supposed to be.

 

[jctenn1]

okay, last time i'll bother y'all with this.
we need to do something besides chat amongst ourselves.

once we've made calls and emails and such, then commence the chit chat. but please, volnation, please, take a few minutes and at least try to voice your displeasure to someone besides ourselves.

please.

already did....
to everyone I could....

 

[HeadVol77]

Well, the AV's and other boosters are working hard behind the scenes to make it happen. All the while Currie is working the phones hard to quickly get a coach into place. The next few days will be very telling on the future of UT football.

100% agree

 

[G8rh8r]

okay, last time i'll bother y'all with this.
we need to do something besides chat amongst ourselves.

once we've made calls and emails and such, then commence the chit chat. but please, volnation, please, take a few minutes and at least try to voice your displeasure to someone besides ourselves.

please.

Preacher,

I’m sure it’s been posted a few times, but do you have the emails of Davenport, Currie, and those in power we can reach out to? My daughter has the flu and I think I have a few minutes to send some out.

 

[tennesseeduke]

OSU hired him before the documents were unsealed.

Yep and now they are trying to pawn him on the next sucker that will take him.

:thud:

 

[MikeGolf M2 Vol]

I’ve called, emailed and tweeted the gang of 3 to voice my anger. We should all do the same. Preacherwebb has put up the contact info. Take action. And let Atlanta Vol take it to the boosters!

Done! And petition too....with you smokey!

 

[UTVolinExile]

I’ve been out for several hours with a sick child. Have we heard anything from Atlanta Vol?

Yes. He was blindsided as well. Is working with other donors to effect change at the top.

 

[volgr]

I was against Tee when I thought it was still Gruden, but after this **** storm, he looks to be the best option. Even with his lack of HC experience, I really think he could pull a stellar VFL staff to UT. JMO.

This mess is too big for an inexperienced coach like Tee. It really isn't even fair to put him in this spot.

 

[KnoxSkiVol]

Schiano was never plan B as I alluded to earlier...even sadder part is I found out about it from one of Urbans very close associates literally as it was going down Sunday afternoon with a text “did you know you are closing in on Schiano? Your crew is up here now are you aware?”

Ill elaborate more once I have time to put the rest of the puzzle together and the timing around it but rest assured this guy was never even on most of our radar until the very last second....which is clearly what Currie wanted.

I am headed to knoxville now...then off to an another location to discuss what measures will help force change. We must demand accountability....pure and simple.

Thanks for what you have done and continue to do. If we can make a difference at all (besides the e-mails and calls we are trying), let us know. I am in Knoxville and can at least be a presence to help fix the corruption.

 

[tbones0711]

Chancellor Davenport,



When will this dog and pony show end? Neither you nor Currie have quelled the madness that transpired on 11/26/17.



As a lifelong Vol, alumnus and supporter of this great institution, I demand answers, but most of all, I demand the best from our leadership. What occurred yesterday is beyond despicable and is widely regarded as reprehensible. There is no way in hell anyone involved could justifiably agree that this was the most viable option to rectify and rejuvenate an already depleted, beleaguered team and fan base. I am physically sick that my alma mater has disregarded what's been screaming in their ear for years - the voice of the fans. We showed up and showed out yesterday, and this is far from over.



To believe John Currie during his press conference on the dismissal of Lyle Allen Jones, Jr., one would have to be completely disassociated with reality or mentally ill. We were promised a coach who will put Tennessee on the path to competing for championships, not an enabler for despicable, heinous acts who just happens to be a bad coach. If UT believes this is apathy, you've seen nothing. Imagine, if you will, a cavernous stadium filled to half capacity (and this is a stretch), a drastic down-turn in apparel and licensed merchandise sales, a tentatively approved $340M stadium renovation and other lavish dreams on the academic and athletic fronts, has UT considered where the funds will come from? It will not come from this fan base. Will the Haslams foot the bill to maintain their death grip on power? This may be the only option left if this is mishandled any worse than it already has been. Further, I believe UT's allegiance to anything Haslam will alienate other well-endowed athletic and academic boosters. It only takes open eyes and ears to realize the contentious battles within the UTAD. It is a well-known truth that no one outside of the Haslams and their puppets cares for the control and power wielded from Jim Haslam. The marionette stopped dancing yesterday because the strings were cut.



The king is one move away from checkmate. It's your turn.



Thank you,
_________________________________________

Thoughts anyone?

My thoughts parallel yours. As true Vol fans we cannot let this go on...the Haslam control issue. It's been ongoing for far too long. It doesn't make sense either when analyzed in logic manner. It has to be linked to a personality disorder centered around an inflated ego. I'm not going deep into that matter because I'm not qualified but I feel many understand what I'm getting at. There's a lack of an objective to improve UT football. Schiano's best years in coaching were in the Big East...same as CBJ. Just a hair over .500 winning pct. at that.

UT boosters had to know that after the UGA thrashing a coaching change was imminent thus giving the AD plenty of time to get his ducks in a row. What occurs? The last telling thing was Currie follows the b-ball team to the Bahamas in the midst of UF trying to hammer out deals with Kelly, Frost, and Mullen while UT's AD allows the impression that all is well and good. Certainly doesn't take a rocket scientist to read into this. Currie is telling us that it's no big deal, "I'm just a front man,a puppet."

Lot of difference in the way David Blackburn would have dealt with this entire matter. Only Blackburn won't suck up to Haslam. Vol nation will identify the root and hopefully this time put Haslam in his place and out of UT sports permanently. A big surge is on to bring in Tee Martin as head coach. A little pre-mature but a guy UT fans could get behind and support. Go Big Orange !!

 

[weallvol]

Office of the Chancellor
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Email sent

 

[me_grag53]

Okay, that makes sense as to why he was never brought in on the case. Thanks for clearing that up. Either way, everything I've heard about him out of Rutgers and the Bucs is bad news. Definitely not the type of guy we want at the helm.

Agreed, What do you think coaches recruiting against us would be saying? The guy is innocent , he didn't know, that testimony that he did was a lie. I am proud of our fans. We need ZERO association of any kind to the travesty that was the P. State scandal.

 

[volgr]

Yes. He was blindsided as well. Is working with other donors to effect change at the top.

Absolutely amazing that someone like AV was lied to and blindsided. Almost incomprehensible.

 

[Dudleys87]

Are we literally looking at

Pilot vs Dish?

Let Dish win!

 

[KB5252]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcBuDMGKZ8U[/youtube]

I listen to nothing he says, he's made a living off lobbing bombs got entertainment proposes. I find him the opposite of entertaining.

 

[vols1221]

Nope. That makes me less of a fan right? Nobody is gloating, we're all just tired of being hoodwinked by supposed "insiders" who are just looking for e-cred or attention.

The Gruden smoke wasn’t created here. There are many news agencies reporting/reported they we at least asked. You want to be mad that’s fine. But, you’re acting like there was zero actually happening, and that’s simply not true.

How about you tell us who you thought was going to be hired. Then we can all tell you how foolish you were! Or, how that guy was never coming here.

I have sources! So I know for a FACT that we talked in 12! Multiple reports saying we asked this time! So you were hiding under a rock waiting for the super-star, long shot to say no. That way you could tell everyone you knew better?

So we were betting on a long shot. Do you wait around the track. Telling everyone betting on the long shot how dumb they are? No that’s right you’re only smart because hindsight is 20/20!

 

[2EastTnVols]

First one is from Davenport this morning... and the second is something I saw on twitter that I thought was interesting. Not sure who the poster is.

You know what is worse? He is an alumn and his first client was Reggie White!

 

[DuckRiverVol]

Well, the AV's and other boosters are working hard behind the scenes to make it happen. All the while Currie is working the phones hard to quickly get a coach into place. The next few days will be very telling on the future of UT football.

Just like in 2012.

Only this time...

"These people do not lose..."

 

[BornAndRaisedVOL!]

Power...it ruins some people that have more of it than they do character.

Truth.

 

[UTVolinExile]

Currie lied, FLAT OUT LIED, to big donor boosters. How do you repaid that? How do you ever get that trust back? Haslam better foot the entire $340M renovation.

You repay that to Currie by firing him. You confirm trust by putting in someone who is known to be trustworthy.