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#776
#776
Anybody gotta link of the clown chasing Currie around, I was out of the loop most of the day and missed it.
 
#777
#777
VOLumeS said:
I really hope Gruden is soon.
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#779
UTVolinExile said:
H4G's explanation of MOU's is correct.
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Never had to sign one. But, I've been around when a few were drafted and signed.

I like you're discussion of the MOU on the cocktail napkin a while back. It's 100% accurate. It can be incredibly informal.

Even in this case. Currie could have scribbled on a post it note:

$8,000,000 a year
%50 buyout going both ways
Loads of perks.
$6,000,000 per year for staff.
I'll give you a back rub once a month.

If they both sign it, that's an MOU.

Too much has been made of the MOU, I think. It's a clear first step, but it doesn't really mean much.
 
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#780
#780
OldTimer said:
my $.02 and TIFWIW...........Gruden is taking the job and out of respect of his potential staff getting bombarded with speculative questions with a week left in the season, he’s holding off the announcement until next week. No denial and too much smoke is out there.
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What you really think or what you hope?
 
#787
#787
Why would JG let us fine vol fans twist in this monsoon of grumers.Is he mentily stable? He keeps mentioning something about a turkey hole.and coaching woeman footballers in lingaree. COMB CAN I SAY GRUDEN to the Hill? Mullen to hell.
 
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#788
HearForGrumors said:
Never had to sign one. But, I've been around when a few were drafted and signed.

I like you're discussion of the MOU on the cocktail napkin a while back. It's 100% accurate. It can be incredibly informal.

Even in this case. Currie could have scribbled on a post it note:

$8,000,000 a year
%50 buyout going both ways
Loads of perks.
$6,000,000 per year for staff.
I'll give you a back rub once a month.

If they both sign it, that's an MOU.

Too much has been made of the MOU, I think. It's a clear first step, but it doesn't really mean much.
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Sounds about like a partnership agreement
 
#790
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HearForGrumors said:
Never had to sign one. But, I've been around when a few were drafted and signed.

I like you're discussion of the MOU on the cocktail napkin a while back. It's 100% accurate. It can be incredibly informal.

Even in this case. Currie could have scribbled on a post it note:

$8,000,000 a year
%50 buyout going both ways
Loads of perks.
$6,000,000 per year for staff.
I'll give you a back rub once a month.

If they both sign it, that's an MOU.

Too much has been made of the MOU, I think. It's a clear first step, but it doesn't really mean much.
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I think it's been more of a milestone or symbol for most because of how things went down last time.

As far as we know a MOU was never signed by Gruden during the last coaching search.

It showed that he had genuine interest and gave many hope that he is a genuine possibility and not just a rumor or wishful thinking.

Jmo
 
#791
#791
Would Gruden let this smolder just to keep the madness at bay for his potential staff?

A far more tinfoil theory: Would Gruden agree to be the smokescreen for UT as they go about their search?

I do think he would keep it on simmer, not shut it down, but not affirm his decision either way. As soon as he accepts, the madness begins for anyone he might add to the staff. Probably not what anyone wants while those folks are still coaching.
 
#795
#795
OrangePill said:
Trust me, I'm a fan like you so I completely understand the hopeless feeling. Just realize that Atlanta is an incredibly good guy who we frankly don't deserve to have. To have a fairly influential booster taking time out of his day and business interests to give us updates is something very few fanbases have. He's never going to purposely mislead us, and he is getting his information firsthand unlike every other "insider" here including me.

I think if AV didn't feel somewhat close to 100% confident then he would do everything he could to soften the blow. The last thing they want is for this Grumor Volcano to continue to bubble over if it wasn't a realistic possibility. No one involved in this would want unrealistic expectations that cannot be met as it would only lead to an unhappy and restless fanbase. It does seem from his post however that this deal isn't signed despite what people (including me) have heard.

My one word of advice as a fan is to pay close attention to Jon Gruden tomorrow. He will undoubtedly be directly asked by the Seattle and NFL media about this opening, the Raiders, and the Bucs. If he has decided over the weekend that he is no longer interested then he'll put it to rest. Tomorrow starts a new media cycle & no sane non-narcissistic person would allow this to go on for another cycle if it is over. That would not only be unfair to us, but more importantly Cindy and his son who is at UT.

Lastly, I believe this quote from AV's post is very important and lines up with what almost anyone with legitimate info has said: Timing is a huge issue with this hire regardless of whether Gruden has said yes or not.
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This has given me my hope back. Thank you OP.
 
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HearForGrumors said:
Never had to sign one. But, I've been around when a few were drafted and signed.

I like you're discussion of the MOU on the cocktail napkin a while back. It's 100% accurate. It can be incredibly informal.

Even in this case. Currie could have scribbled on a post it note:

$8,000,000 a year
%50 buyout going both ways
Loads of perks.
$6,000,000 per year for staff.
I'll give you a back rub once a month.

If they both sign it, that's an MOU.

Too much has been made of the MOU, I think. It's a clear first step, but it doesn't really mean much.
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You forgot the escort service perks!!!
 
#798
#798
There are about 3 SEC schools with national deals that have big $ and we used to be one of them .... and if we meds this coach decision up we might lose a lot
 
#799
#799
There are about 3 SEC schools with national deals that have big $ and we used to be one of them .... and if we miss this coach decision up we might lose a lot
 
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HearForGrumors said:
Never had to sign one. But, I've been around when a few were drafted and signed.

I like you're discussion of the MOU on the cocktail napkin a while back. It's 100% accurate. It can be incredibly informal.

Even in this case. Currie could have scribbled on a post it note:

$8,000,000 a year
%50 buyout going both ways
Loads of perks.
$6,000,000 per year for staff.
I'll give you a back rub once a month.

If they both sign it, that's an MOU.

Too much has been made of the MOU, I think. It's a clear first step, but it doesn't really mean much.
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I deal with MOUs frequently in my practice. I have a particular institutional client which negotiates multi-year contracts, and MOUs are regularly negotiated and signed during the contract term to form the basis of the new agreement when the term expires.

Your explanation is sound. MOUs give parties a way to document their intent in order to make a formal contract easier to reach. In this case, many fans have mistakenly confused MOUs with a formal contract.
 
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