Scott Frost or Dan Mullen??

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UTVolunteer247 said:
If you had to choose between these two, who would your pick be and why?
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Neither. Frost has been a HC for a year and a half and at a non power 5 school at that. And he was 6-7 his first year. Oh and let's not forget his team's don't play any kind of defense or any good power 5 conference teams. Not saying he won't be a good Coach but guy has coached in 22 games as A HC in a non power 5 conference. Wanna know the evidence right now that screams he is gonna be elite.
 
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hadl said:
Yup. I literally just said that...
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A winning SEC record 1 out of 9 years... okay, I'll give it to you. Different people define success different ways.

I think that it's fair to say that he improved the program. I think that competing at an above-average level would be my line for success. People act like he's a proven coach, but his record indicates otherwise.
 
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I would hate to have to settle for one of those 2... but if I HAD to pick one I guess it would be Frost.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
So you think Smart’s had same circumstances and setup as Mullen at MSU?
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No. Smart walked into a great situation. I'm just saying I think we're facing an uphill battle going forward. UGA and Florida will be a tough game each year. And we're the unfortunate East team that plays Alabama every season.

Like I said I don't think he's a bad coach. I think we'd be a decent team but at the end of the season I think we'd end up 8-4 or 7-5 and 3rd in the East most seasons. I'm just not sold that Mullen would lead us to an SEC Championship.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Comparing Butch and Mullen as equals when their respective jobs can’t be compared as equal.

Yet you do it anyway.
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Well you are still misrepresenting my argument. I have said that Mullen is better than Butch. The comparison is not a performance assessment; he has some same tendencies... like choking away the game last night.
 
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Chip Kelly would have to tell me no first. Offer him 7 mil. per and see what he says. He is the closest to a sure thing there is. 33-3 his last three reg. seasons at Oregon.
 
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1) Mullen by a landslide RIGHT NOW
2) Frost has a SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER PROVEN RESUME
3) Mullen has SUCCESSFUL SEC EXPERIENCE
4) Frost MAY run to Nebraska like Lame did to USC
5) Frost MAY be better in the long run but a HUGE risk comparing both resumes
 
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Nebraska made a really bad decision to join the Big 10. They really have no recruiting base since losing Texas. I think they probably have Minnesota-ed their program.

If Frost is smart, which I think he is, he knows Nebraska isn't anywhere close to what it was. He's going to go somewhere that he can win championships. I don't think that's Nebraska anymore. Maybe his loyalty wins out, but I just don't see it. Bo Pelini was 67-26, 39-17 with 4 division titles and that wasn't good enough for Nebraska.
 
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VFLinFL said:
1) Mullen by a landslide RIGHT NOW
2) Frost has a SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER PROVEN RESUME
3) Mullen has SUCCESSFUL SEC EXPERIENCE
4) Frost MAY run to Nebraska like Lame did to USC
5) Frost MAY be better in the long run but a HUGE risk comparing both resumes
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What does "SUCCESSFUL SEC EXPERIENCE" mean?
 
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I think Frost will bring more energy to the program, both at the podium and with recruiting. Mullen will certainly bring more experience, especially since he has been in the SEC for what seems like forever now.

This is a tough one. I think I would roll the dice with Frost before Mullen, but I'm hungry, and my mood might change after I eat.
 
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TheDeeble said:
No. Smart walked into a great situation. I'm just saying I think we're facing an uphill battle going forward.

Like I said I don't think he's a bad coach. I think we'd be a decent team but at the end of the season I think we'd end up 8-4 or 7-5 and 3rd in the East most seasons. I'm just not sold that Mullen would lead us to an SEC Championship.
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What Coach out there shows they could lead us to a SEC title with Saban still running at Bama?

Not being sarcastic but want your opinion.

At the end of the day, you have to compare Mullen to Butch because Butch is what we just got rid of.

Butch- Easier Schedule / More Talent = Underachiever at historical winning program

Mullen- Tougher Schedule / Less Talent = Overachieving at historical loser program


So history tells us that Mullen, with an easier schedule and better talent, would succeed here better than Butch, who we just canned. 8-4 would be Mullen’s Floor here.

Mullen would be very likely to be the favorite in 10 of 12 games at Tennessee. He’s lucky to be the favorite in 4 or 5 games at State.
 
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Top Gun said:
Chip Kelly would have to tell me no first. Offer him 7 mil. per and see what he says. He is the closest to a sure thing there is. 33-3 his last three reg. seasons at Oregon.
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We don’t need the NCAA watching over our shoulders
 
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HuntsVol_AL said:
Well you are still misrepresenting my argument. I have said that Mullen is better than Butch. The comparison is not a performance assessment; he has some same tendencies... like choking away the game last night.
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You’ve said countless times that Mullen would bring us more of the same (Butch).....
 
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This is a tough one. I think Frost has a higher potential ceiling but he's a way bigger role of the dice. For that reason, I think I'd go with Mullen.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Comparing Butch and Mullen as equals when their respective jobs can’t be compared as equal.

Yet you do it anyway.
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Mullen is in his 9th season there, and makes more than Butch did. It looks like he is very comfortable with being mediocre in a place that will accept it.

Why can’t people be happy to leave him there instead of being tools for Sexton to bend another AD over the table with?
 
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Odiodin said:
Mullen is in his 9th season there, and makes more than Butch did. It looks like he is very comfortable with being mediocre in a place that will accept it.

Why can’t people be happy to leave him there instead of being tools for Sexton to bend another AD over the table with?
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So he has mediocre results at a historical loser program? Winning at a rate of 15-17% points higher than program all time average is mediocre?

I’m sure you think James Franklin was mediocre at Vandy too.
 
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