Official Jon Gruden Thread XXIX

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airvols said:
So Butch was notified after Georgia he wouldn’t be retained. The administration reaches out to Jon Gruden to determine interest, and finds he is interested. The contract terms are finalized,one being to allow Butch to conclude the season as head coach. Having his man in agreement, the administration announces one of the largest fun raisers in history to improve Neyland. Currie knows once the announcement is out donations will flow in like a flooded river.

The fans get their wish for a big named coach, the donation base is united and pulling in the same direction. The academic side is already counting their piece of the donation pie, recruiting will rise to the top of the college football world, the band plays Rocky Top and Currie looks like a genius. Go Vols!
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Fun raiser?
 
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andywilson001 said:
This is the conclusion I've reached as to why Butch will be allowed to finish the season (assuming the Grumors are true).


Short Answer: Gruden doesn't want Butch to be fired mid season.

As you all know, Gruden is the founder of the FFCA (Fired Football Coaches Association), an organization where fired coaches can continue to utilize their knowledge of the game in a positive way. From what I can gather, the FFCA serves 2 primary purposes:
  1. Provide fired coaches with an opportunity to continue studying the game while they are off the sidelines.
  2. Provide small, local teams (high school, middle school, ect) with an opportunity to learn from some of the greatest football minds in the game.
Needless to say, the FFCA has a great deal of empathy and respect for fired coaches. They recognize the value in the knowledge and experience they've gained over years and years of coaching at the highest level. Gruden himself is a fired coach, so he knows what it's like to be under all the pressure and scrutiny Butch is facing right now.

The worst thing that can happen for a coach's career is to be fired mid season. That sends the message that they were so bad, it made more sense to cut their time short and let an interim take over until a new coach is hired. It says "an interim coach with little or no HC experience is a better option than you". Even if Butch loses these last 3 games, it will still look better on his coaching resume than getting fired mid season... Gruden wants to help Butch minimize the damage to his coaching resume. If "Gruden to the Hill" is truly locked up, then there is no benefit to UT in letting him go early and naming an interim. At this point, Butch *is* the interim. There is no need to create additional coaching drama if they already have the solution in place.

One last note - Think about this from Gruden's perspective. He has branded himself as a friend and a resource to fired coaches everywhere. How will it make him look if the news comes out that he already had a deal in place with UT before Butch was officially fired? It will look like he was working a deal behind Butch's back. That's not a good look for the founder of the FFCA... (just my opinion)

*again, this is all assuming that the Grumors are true and we really do have Gruden locked up.


Man, I believe you hit the nail on the head with this post and I’ve been thinking the same thing. This right here is why I’m leaning Gruden WILL be the next coach at UT!! This would all add up to why Butch is still coach and will finish the season. Makes perfect sense and I believe we will all see this before long. I hope they do announce Gruden right after Vandy though so he can make that call to Mays (and other guys he can reel in Butch had no shot at) day one!!
I think we can all agree we can put up with Butch for 3 more games if that means we land “THE GRUDE!”


SOON!!
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airvols said:
So Butch was notified after Georgia he wouldn’t be retained. The administration reaches out to Jon Gruden to determine interest, and finds he is interested. The contract terms are finalized,one being to allow Butch to conclude the season as head coach. Having his man in agreement, the administration announces one of the largest fun raisers in history to improve Neyland. Currie knows once the announcement is out donations will flow in like a flooded river.

The fans get their wish for a big named coach, the donation base is united and pulling in the same direction. The academic side is already counting their piece of the donation pie, recruiting will rise to the top of the college football world, the band plays Rocky Top and Currie looks like a genius. Go Vols!
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Yep...absolutely....just not enough Gruden in your post. :)
 
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UneducatedGuess said:
I also got scolded for pointing out that Shell Capital was a joke last night.

If Beaver has more to say - be a man - say it.

Don’t post cryptic twitter cover pictures and then lurk all damn day on VN.

Even worse, don’t be a pawn in his self entertainment.
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dilly dilly
 
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Doesn't surprise me Butch would call so called booster friends for help to save his job. He's just that weird. He lives in a world of one. I feel sorry for him
 
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airvols said:
So Butch was notified after Georgia he wouldn’t be retained. The administration reaches out to Jon Gruden to determine interest, and finds he is interested. The contract terms are finalized,one being to allow Butch to conclude the season as head coach. Having his man in agreement, the administration announces one of the largest fun raisers in history to improve Neyland. Currie knows once the announcement is out donations will flow in like a flooded river.

The fans get their wish for a big named coach, the donation base is united and pulling in the same direction. The academic side is already counting their piece of the donation pie, recruiting will rise to the top of the college football world, the band plays Rocky Top and Currie looks like a genius. Go Vols!
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Pretty much perfect except you forgot the part where Butch Jones is left in place Poisoning the soil. Basically killing fan interest and 2018 recruiting.
 
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Legendary said:
Brent Hubbs has confirmed that butch is calling around and asking for support from boosters. Saying injuries has not allowed this team to show its full potential.

I want to throw up. If butch was gone already why would Hubbs be confirming that butch is asking for one more year? I think he realizes he can’t get another P5 job.
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The problem isn't just injuries. Granted we have a lot, and that many injuries will affect a season's outcome. But it seems this team withered to FCS level with its injuries.

That means Butch's problem is either evaluation of talent or development of talent underneath the starters. He has several great recruiting classes where he ostensibly got really good players. He either chose poorly or is unable to fully coach/develop the players he recruited.
 
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KcpboarderinTN said:
andywilson001 said:
This is the conclusion I've reached as to why Butch will be allowed to finish the season (assuming the Grumors are true).


Short Answer: Gruden doesn't want Butch to be fired mid season.

As you all know, Gruden is the founder of the FFCA (Fired Football Coaches Association), an organization where fired coaches can continue to utilize their knowledge of the game in a positive way. From what I can gather, the FFCA serves 2 primary purposes:
  1. Provide fired coaches with an opportunity to continue studying the game while they are off the sidelines.
  2. Provide small, local teams (high school, middle school, ect) with an opportunity to learn from some of the greatest football minds in the game.
Needless to say, the FFCA has a great deal of empathy and respect for fired coaches. They recognize the value in the knowledge and experience they've gained over years and years of coaching at the highest level. Gruden himself is a fired coach, so he knows what it's like to be under all the pressure and scrutiny Butch is facing right now.

The worst thing that can happen for a coach's career is to be fired mid season. That sends the message that they were so bad, it made more sense to cut their time short and let an interim take over until a new coach is hired. It says "an interim coach with little or no HC experience is a better option than you". Even if Butch loses these last 3 games, it will still look better on his coaching resume than getting fired mid season... Gruden wants to help Butch minimize the damage to his coaching resume. If "Gruden to the Hill" is truly locked up, then there is no benefit to UT in letting him go early and naming an interim. At this point, Butch *is* the interim. There is no need to create additional coaching drama if they already have the solution in place.

One last note - Think about this from Gruden's perspective. He has branded himself as a friend and a resource to fired coaches everywhere. How will it make him look if the news comes out that he already had a deal in place with UT before Butch was officially fired? It will look like he was working a deal behind Butch's back. That's not a good look for the founder of the FFCA... (just my opinion)

*again, this is all assuming that the Grumors are true and we really do have Gruden locked up.


Man, I believe you hit the nail on the head with this post and I’ve been thinking the same thing. This right here is why I’m leaning Gruden WILL be the next coach at UT!! This would all add up to why Butch is still coach and will finish the season. Makes perfect sense and I believe we will all see this before long. I hope they do announce Gruden right after Vandy though so he can make that call to Mays (and other guys he can reel in Butch had no shot at) day one!!
I think we can all agree we can put up with Butch for 3 more games if that means we land “THE GRUDE!”


SOON!!
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What actual football knowledge could Butch share with anyone?
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
He'll never get better players here than he has right now and his be all, end all RG hire didn't appear to do anything to help the injury situation. Butch is like a damn dog turd stuck deep inside my shoes' treads. I feel like I got most of him off, but I'm still digging at those last few bits with a stick.
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Yeah even if you can't see it you can still smell it.
 
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We are in the middle of the roller coaster ride folks, hold on and keep that smile! SOON ENOUGH! GRUDEN TO THE HILL!
 
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Lurkerin said:
Pretty much perfect except you forgot the part where Butch Jones is left in place Poisoning the soil. Basically killing fan interest and 2018 recruiting.
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Fan interest and recruiting will literally EXPLODE if Gruden is announced. 2018 will be the most hyped year we've seen in a long time.
 
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tastycar said:
Fun raiser?
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