Official Jon Gruden Thread XXIX

[Squints]

refering back to past posts about no one has ever copared in coaching to what Saban has done. I beg to disagree..Gen. Robert Neyland.. Underscored on during a whole season. the only coach never to be defeated by the bear (during his time)

71 qtrs. and 7-0 against the houndstooth model

 

[CABVOL]

Which makes it odd that he would state that Hammy was getting a kickback from Adidas.

I wasn’t aware he had stated that. That certainly throws a kink in my opinion then. Although, Adidas, as recently discovered, is known to participate in some shady activity.

 

[RagingOrange]

So, they've been kidnapped and duped into believing that rape is somehow good?

Its not just about rape.

noun: Stockholm syndrome
feelings of trust or affection felt in certain cases of kidnapping or hostage-taking by a victim toward a captor.

This fanbase has been held hostage for a decade by an inept AD, insomuch that most wholly trust this AD despite its record of failure.

Thats what it means.

 

[TenUhSee]

Will Gruden give butch a FFCA visor on his way out?

 

[MaTaLa]

Mullen vs SEC East and Bama (the closest we can get to how he may fare at UT):
15-15 (counting next game vs bama as a loss)
50%

Butch vs SEC East and Bama:
14-19 (with 2 East games left)
42%

so he's a minimal upgrade. to me, it's like saying butch is a 7-8 win coach, mullin is a 8-9 win coach.

just my opinion.

without prescott and dobbs, neither has accomplished much.

That's seeing MSU and UT as being equal in recruiting, facilities and tradition??
FTR, I don't want Mullen, I want Gruden, but I don't get the NCCA math here

 

[Glocker_Alum_2005]

Swain said the coaches we are looking at that none of them was on the boards at the betting site except Gruden

Ok if it's a P5, IMO then:
Matt Campbell
Doeren
Fuente

 

[Harry Vols]

Which makes it odd that he would state that Hammy was getting a kickback from Adidas.

Sounds like libel to me.

 

[sona]

I wasn’t aware he had stated that. That certainly throws a kink in my opinion then. Although, Adidas, as recently discovered, is known to participate in some shady activity.

I think it greatly strengthens your opinion actually. He would know.

 

[volforlife98]

Mullen vs SEC East and Bama (the closest we can get to how he may fare at UT):
15-15 (counting next game vs bama as a loss)
50%

Butch vs SEC East and Bama:
14-19 (with 2 East games left)
42%

so he's a minimal upgrade. to me, it's like saying butch is a 7-8 win coach, mullin is a 8-9 win coach.

just my opinion.

without prescott and dobbs, neither has accomplished much.

Just playing devil's advocate, Mullen has an average recruiting class ranking of around 25 nationally every year. Butch is more like 10. Mullen is absolutely a better coach and not just a marginal upgrade IMO.

 

[Squints]

Its not just about rape.

noun: Stockholm syndrome
feelings of trust or affection felt in certain cases of kidnapping or hostage-taking by a victim toward a captor.

This fanbase has been held hostage for a decade by an inept AD, insomuch that most wholly trust this AD despite its record of failure.

Thats what it means.

I didn't need an explanation. I know what it is. So what, maybe I was a little blue when I posted it.

 

[Volsfaninva917]

why is beavers account gone?

It's not

 

[RagingOrange]

Guys, my silence only means that I'm working. I have zero connection to this whole thing, other than enjoying the ride, and playing a little deductive sleuthing.

I got 12 new cases last week, and I've been figuring out how screwed I am (now that I've lost a week or two of work following this thread).

Speaking of my being busy, anything new? I presume all the "Givers of Nugs" are still silent? I do believe that is good news.

Thanks!

I understand busy! Not everyone lives on these boards.

I included you because while you may not be connected, youve certainly brought a ray of sunshine to the true faithful by explaining some inner workings.

Post when you can, your knowledge is uplofting and valuable.

 

[bigmac]

Wow..the normal fans are sooooo disconnected with the entire situation!

 

[jp1]

why is beavers account gone?

 

[Volsfaninva917]

Ok if it's a P5, IMO then:
Matt Campbell
Doeren
Fuente

Yes
Hell No
Yes

 

[preacherwebb]

And the fallout effect has been achieved.

What have I said...over and over...?

Gonna get to the point where everyone will be satisfied, happy even, with talking about googlecoach, please anyone, just get Butch out.

I think weve arrived.

Its gotta look like all hope is gone, so that Currie and his AD minions can say they saved the deal at the last second.

All the people talking about googlecoaches are the same ones saying Butch will be back next year. Make up your minds.

"Oh ye of little faith..." "you have been weighed measured and found wanting" "you are neither hot or cold but lukewarm and for that I will spew thee from my mouth" all are appropriate for the weak minded actions of a few of you.

Not to go all biblical...but a weak and faithless generation is here for sure....where is your hope? Intestinal fortitude?

What a time to be alive, when there is no black or white only gray area. When if it isnt instant it isnt true. Success and building for the future doesnt happen overnight.

Most of you pass over my posts as just more message board chatter, because Im not an "insider", but I am OG, and Ive committed to hope for the best, because there is absolutely nothing to the rest. Make a commitment and stick to it. If Im wrong in my placement of hope then so be it, you wont have to worry about me anymore, because Saturdays will be spent doing more important things than being spoonfed "legions of the miserable" garbage.

But Ill hold out for hope.

Dilly dilly people.

boom.
me too.

 

[Wilson27]

My 10 dollar bet at +1800 says its GRUDEN all damn day!

 

[RagingOrange]

I didn't need an explanation. I know what it is. So what, maybe I was a little blue when I posted it.

Yeah but not everyone here is that intelligent. Your joke could mean hours of defending my statement to idiots lol

 

[TenUhSee]

I tell them the same thing and yet, I get called the delusional one?

Gruden would bring more success to UT than Mullen would.

even Stevie Wonder can see that !

 

[volforlife98]

Ok if it's a P5, IMO then:
Matt Campbell
Doeren
Fuente

Swain gave some more hints, he said they were offensive minded and there was a connection through Jimmy Sexton.

 

[thebjd]

Just playing devil's advocate, Mullen has an average recruiting class ranking of around 25 nationally every year. Butch is more like 10. Mullen is absolutely a better coach and not just a marginal upgrade IMO.

I asked nicely earlier. Please take the Mullen talk out of this thread. Mullen would be a horrible consolation prize

 

[jb865]

I did. no comment on Tenn. but he's never given up coaching prepares 4 the broadcast like a coach

talk was kept on the game tonight. no comments on the Tennessee job or any other coaching positions.

from Josh Moser

 

[RagingOrange]

even Stevie Wonder can see that !

We gotta lotta Ray Charles' tho...

 

[volforlife98]

I asked nicely earlier. Please take the Mullen talk out of this thread. Mullen would be a horrible consolation prize

You're right I'm sorry. I don't want Mullen by any stretch of the imagination.

 

['Boro-vol]

I asked nicely earlier. Please take the Mullen talk out of this thread. Mullen would be a horrible consolation prize

I'm out if we end up with Mullen. O U T...out.