Official Jon Gruden Thread XXVI

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CashVolT said:
What if.....

Gruden has a timeline in which he needs to tie up loose ends with MNF, and obligations to Hooters etc..

Butch is advised he is let go after GA and start looking...

UTAD plan to let Butch go by Nov. 1st as many have heard. ( including myself )...

After Nov. 1st plan was to let interm coach take over regardless of Butch's situation..

Butch has some dirt some where allowing him to remain this season or until he finds another job...

PURE SPECULATION BUT IS IT POSSIBLE?
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You had me until the dirt part...

I think butch is the interim because nobody wanted to be the interim. The concussion story is adding pressure to this because really, keeping butch is making the university look worse now. It upsets the plan waiting on Grudens deals to close.

A bookmark is better than bending the page...until tour bookmark gets wrinkled.
 
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Coastypop said:
Based simply on the posted by Duckriver.... if his synopsis is accurate then I would say we are dealing with a power struggle between the Haslams in Knoxville (and their supporter) and the Elgins (sp) and their supporters .................

There is not much we can do if that is the case, but express out desire for Gruden and see who has the most power in the end...... This much I know... WIN OR LOSE..... this battle will not be fought without blood shed (not literal but figurative of course)
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I think the fans have played a part in this.
Otherwise we wouldn't have the insiders popping in and out and commenting. Probably miniscule in the grand scheme of things... But there is definitely power in numbers.

And without a doubt,
There will be a winner and and a loser when all is said and done.

And the parties involved do not like to lose.
On either side.
 
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UTLEGEND said:
From VQ and I couldn't agree more

"For those in the camp of "athletics is a distraction"....
I ran into a family friend of mine last night. Both of his daughters went to one of the most distinguished boarding schools in the country in the Massachussetts, New Hampshire area. Think like more than $50k per year, with high hurdle rates for proficiencies, low acceptance rates, Ivy League graduate/acceptance in double digits, gigantic endowment, etc. You know where both of his daughters went to college? Take a wild guess.... Alabama. (I thought it was insane, but they did) Why? They could've easily had their choice of any liberal arts school, one of the Ivys or Stanford/Northwestern....but their dad took the oldest daughter to a game 6 years ago and they had the time of their lives. They loved the atmosphere, the pageantry, the sororities, conservative environment, proximity to Florida where they stay a bunch etc etc etc.
Note to Beverly - you dont know jack sh.. about marketing...or about the national reach a great athletics program has. Go back up to your offce and polish your midmajor resume...send a few terse emails about how things should be...have a Coke and a smile and GTF OUT OF THE WAY!!"
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This is SO true! Bev doesn't have a clue. She does not understand how the south and football work together in cohesion.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
I agree with everything you said. I don't understand having him twist in the wind at this point. I believe there is a reason, but for the life of me I can't get anyone to tell me why.
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I can’t figure it either. To me it is clear he has given up and doesn’t want to be here. He has to be a pawn in the big game for some reason. Since the encounter between him and John I can’t even get a courtesy call back from my friends in the AD and one is a fraternity brother. My last conversation ended with “we can’t exchange text because people are posting the screenshots”. Just curious if your text have dried up as well.
 
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Vol-in-Bham said:
It's not saving $10 million per year. That number would have to be closer to $40-60 million to line up with what you're saying.
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I took enough accounting to know about balancing the books.

10mil from one ledger
10mil from another

Across several ledgers it adds up...

Clear enough?
 
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RockyTopSC said:
I can’t figure it either. To me it is clear he has given up and doesn’t want to be here. He has to be a pawn in the big game for some reason. Since the encounter between him and John I can’t even get a courtesy call back from my friends in the AD and one is a fraternity brother. My last conversation ended with “we can’t exchange text because people are posting the screenshots”. Just curious if your text have dried up as well.
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They've definitely slowed. Last one I got was two days ago following the blow up between Currie and Butch.
 
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Sstterry said:
Regardless of what Hubbs said, there were editorials written across the state urging schools to opt out. This about local jobs and politics, not sports.
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UT is a land grant institution...
A state run educational system.
These things are unequivocally connected...
I assure you.
 
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The bottom line to all this is if they do not get this right, they won't have to worry about leading much it all, not any of them. Good grief somebody that cares about UT and it's fans that has the most power go in there and let them have it, tell them the reality of the situation. There is only one way the money is going to continue to flow into this great University that the FANS and DONORS and students made possible to begin with. GET IT RIGHT, the alternative is not what any of them want. ANY OF THEM! SOON!!!! MAKE THE MOVES! SOON VERY SOON, SOON NOW!
 
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VolFan32 said:
Based on what others have said, Bev doesn't appear to be the holdup.
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She's had her paws all over this. In my opinion, retention and growth of power is the problem. If not that, woeful incompetence is all that's left.
 
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RockyTopSC said:
I can’t figure it either. To me it is clear he has given up and doesn’t want to be here. He has to be a pawn in the big game for some reason. Since the encounter between him and John I can’t even get a courtesy call back from my friends in the AD and one is a fraternity brother. My last conversation ended with “we can’t exchange text because people are posting the screenshots”. Just curious if your text have dried up as well.
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I am certainly no insider, just happen to have made friends with several people who are in the know (because of my business, everybody comes to me eventually :eek:hmy:) The folks that I know have not told me ANYTHING now for about three weeks and don't return calls or text.... I know that was not for me but wanted to rudely interrupt ...:)
 
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RagingOrange said:
You had me until the dirt part...

I think butch is the interim because nobody wanted to be the interim. The concussion story is adding pressure to this because really, keeping butch is making the university look worse now. It upsets the plan waiting on Grudens deals to close.

A bookmark is better than bending the page...until tour bookmark gets wrinkled.
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Obviously I have no clue, but I don't buy the interim theory. I can see no one wanting it, for several reasons, but under the circumstances, I don't think Currie just says "okay".
 
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VolFan32 said:
Based on what others have said, Bev doesn't appear to be the holdup.
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At this point I'm blaming all parties involved. This has become an embarrassment. And the little respect I had for Jones is gone out the window. He has no integrity. If he did he would step down immediately and rip that contract up and say "I do NOT deserve that buyout" for the crap product I trot out onto that field every Saturday.
 
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We'll probably never know....

everything about Area 51
where Jimmy Hoffa is
who else shot JFK
the skeleton identities under Neyland
what Big Jim 's cut was
 
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VFLnSFD said:
I only have a minute but I wanted to say:

-I believe Currie has to make his choice before he presents at 3 PM.

-in biblical times the king's right hand man would be a eunuch, someone who had been castrated to prevent them from becoming power hungry. For Currie to accept this deal, he is willfully making himself a eunuch to the whole lot of them. That isn't what he has spent his career building in his own mind.
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Agreed.

Currie does kind of strike me as the Lord Varys type vs the Greyworm type.
 
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