Official Jon Gruden Thread XXVI

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Grand Vol said:
To expand the implications of what this means for boosters/Currie...

Currie was content, either by design (likely) or by negligence (unlikely), to continue letting Jones coach through the season. For what reason, who knows. The boosters felt the time was right for a change and decided to force the issue. The Kendrick injury provided the right opportunity for them to push Currie into action, or accept the inevitable consequences of inaction.

Put into military terms, a commander sees a position on the battlefield that could give them an advantage. But it's not the main objective of the fight. Now, instead of sending in troops to occupy said position, they may perform a feint that forces the opposing commander to commit his own troops to defending it. Which leaves the opposing force potentially weak in another area where your main attack is coming from and the objective you wanted in the first place. But forcing the opposing commander to commit their reserves to the position you didn't want, the opposing commander is now weaker overall. He has no reserves to commit to the battle and will have to voluntarily give ground or be defeated.

Put into Currie/booster terms, I take it you are implying the boosters have used this situation to force Currie to defending an area he does not want to and it weakens him in other areas they wanted to begin with. Hence, Currie now has to commit on Jones by firing (if true) which leaves the only option to him what the boosters wanted in the first place.

Thanks for keeping me up, Beaver.
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Love the fient. Also commits resources to the Kendrick situation weakening the main objective. GV are you really Schwarzkopf...not trying to dox u
 
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MsVol4Life said:
This is beyond whatever theory or school of thought. This conspiracy vs that conspiracy Etc....who gives a crap....g to rid of his ass and let’s love on. Be it a show cause or close IDGAF....pack his crap move him out and let’s roll with a fresh body.

I’ve been following this thread since the infant stages. Feel like I deserve a freakin* tax break because we have gave birth to so much BS thru it all. Can we for the sake of the Hill, the ones that paved the way, the blood, sweat, tears, the BS coaching experiments and all of the f’n above get this right this time. We deserve the best. I can’t afford to drink any more. I have a family, a job to do and bills to pay not to mention a decision to make on $40,000 worth of donations, tickets etc. just settle this crap, hire a damn coach and go kick ass. It’s really that simple. You get what you pay for. I apologize in advance and I will continue to drive 400 miles for every home game, hell yall come come by the tailgate and eat and drink but for the love of everything of the Big Orange get this one right so we can all enjoy the fall, the football, and everything that we have come to love about UT. Peace Out......deuces.
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I almost passed out reading this. Kept having to remind myself to take breaths.
 
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MIT_Beaver said:
The Comb is one of my favorite posters on VN. Insiders are around, it has been a very interesting past 2 days. The Kendrick’s issue is a big deal (both in the health of that kid and on the implications it has on Butch).

For the game theory nerds, whoever can correctly summarize the implications this has on Currie and the boosters will win a a couple free scotch drinks on me at a home game next year.
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Wait wait wait😎....Is this boom. The eagle has landed?!
 
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MIT_Beaver said:
The Comb is one of my favorite posters on VN. Insiders are around, it has been a very interesting past 2 days. The Kendrick’s issue is a big deal (both in the health of that kid and on the implications it has on Butch).

For the game theory nerds, whoever can correctly summarize the implications this has on Currie and the boosters will win a a couple free scotch drinks on me at a home game next year.
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My Grudeglasses theory would be thus: The reason we have seen such a long delay in firing Jones is that part of the re-negotiated buyout (if there is one) included Jones getting to coach out the rest of the season for a reduced buyout. This being due to the fact that Currie is trying to cheap out as much as possible on any such deal regardless of the damage it may do to the season.

Now if the concussion issue is legit and did in fact happen, then that puts UT in the position to McElwain his @$$ and fire with cause. The question comes though whether UT is willing to do that. Inevitably Jones would try to sue as a wrongful termination in that regard (whether he wins or not who knows, the point being with that much money on the table any sane person would try to prove they did nothing wrong to get the cash). So Currie is probably weighing the odds of whether it would be better to pay the buyout or deal with any legal fallout.

The boosters on the other hand now have another card in an already loaded hand. As another poster mentioned. They can force the issue by playing into the mismanagement of the program at all levels. You don't *#&@ around with concussions in today's football climate. The NCAA has strict rules in place for concussion protocol, and if not adhered to, penalties. So Butch has to be fired if its true. The baby calf has to be slaughtered to appease the god of the NCAA or we could face serious sanctions for valuing a win over a kid's health. The boosters can leverage that to push up the timetable on any plans they have in place, because if the administration doesn't act like they are taking this seriously their jobs could be in danger now as well.

As Beav said before; "the drama backstage could fill a movie script" (paraphrasing). If the administration is balking every step because they don't want to spend too much money on the football program, then they have now lost the moral high-ground of "but Butch is such a good ambassador, and has righted the ship." Without that narrative, their position is weakened and they can be pushed by the boosters who will threaten to stop funds because they don't want their name on a university that injures kids.
 
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MsVol4Life said:
This is beyond whatever theory or school of thought. This conspiracy vs that conspiracy Etc....who gives a crap....g to rid of his ass and let’s love on. Be it a show cause or close IDGAF....pack his crap move him out and let’s roll with a fresh body.

I’ve been following this thread since the infant stages. Feel like I deserve a freakin* tax break because we have gave birth to so much BS thru it all. Can we for the sake of the Hill, the ones that paved the way, the blood, sweat, tears, the BS coaching experiments and all of the f’n above get this right this time. We deserve the best. I can’t afford to drink any more. I have a family, a job to do and bills to pay not to mention a decision to make on $40,000 worth of donations, tickets etc. just settle this crap, hire a damn coach and go kick ass. It’s really that simple. You get what you pay for. I apologize in advance and I will continue to drive 400 miles for every home game, hell yall come come by the tailgate and eat and drink but for the love of everything of the Big Orange get this one right so we can all enjoy the fall, the football, and everything that we have come to love about UT. Peace Out......deuces.
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damn! 40K worth of donations ? What all are you buying if you don’t mind me asking ? All of section T 😉
 
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Hawkpilot said:
Wait wait wait😎....Is this boom. The eagle has landed?!
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Yeah Beav, implying that we will be at a home game next year, implies that we make the right hire. Also that we continue with our tickets and pay money to be there? So also implying, the White Whale has landed? Just for confirmation?
 
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I find it quite funny that some would even think that CBJ would be willing to risk the health of a player to win the exact same game he sit our best offensive player for a smoking weed. Let things happen. If he doesn’t get fired in the end and you don’t get what you want complain all you want. However, you have no clue and none of these so callled “insiders” can tell you the out come right now cause it hasn’t happen and the situation is still happening. Sit back and let things play out.
 
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Hawkpilot said:
Love the fient. Also commits resources to the Kendrick situation weakening the main objective. GV are you really Schwarzkopf...not trying to dox u
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Simple logic. Make the opposition commit to doing something you wanted them to do in the first place. Like throwing up C-wire and tanglefoot on the easiest path of approach and force the opposition either into your kill zone or off the main line of drift which wears them out and makes them vulnerable to counterattack.

In this case, making the opposition do what you wanted could mean removing Jones. Which opens the door to...

The booster's choice of coaches. Namely Gruden if the Grumors are correct. Currie is forced to either accept his own demise by allowing Jones to continue with the possibility of the Kendrick situation biting him in the backside or by accepting he will lose ground, but not be defeated in the end.

I could have been an officer, but they found out my parents were married and I worked for a living.
 
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Man I can't mAke it in any of the reports of greatness. No mention in GVs daily updates, nor can I even get a shout out from Beaver, even though I dearly love the beaver. Check, I don't even rate a GTFO from knucklehead or put on the preachers list.
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Just wanted to say that Jravol78 is awesome and a true Vol! Thanks brother! You're a grude dude!
 
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allvolinga said:
man i can't make it in any of the reports of greatness. No mention in gvs daily updates, nor can i even get a shout out from beaver, even though i dearly love the beaver. Check, i don't even rate a gtfo from knucklehead or put on the preachers list.
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AllVolinGA said:
Man I can't mAke it in any of the reports of greatness. No mention in GVs daily updates, nor can I even get a shout out from Beaver, even though I dearly love the beaver. Check, I don't even rate a GTFO from knucklehead or put on the preachers list.
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Someone will give you a snuggle!
 
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I can't imagine the university is just gonna pay jones' buyout with the kendricks standing idly by waiting to sue them into oblivion.
 
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MsVol4Life said:
This is beyond whatever theory or school of thought. This conspiracy vs that conspiracy Etc....who gives a crap....g to rid of his ass and let’s love on. Be it a show cause or close IDGAF....pack his crap move him out and let’s roll with a fresh body.

I’ve been following this thread since the infant stages. Feel like I deserve a freakin* tax break because we have gave birth to so much BS thru it all. Can we for the sake of the Hill, the ones that paved the way, the blood, sweat, tears, the BS coaching experiments and all of the f’n above get this right this time. We deserve the best. I can’t afford to drink any more. I have a family, a job to do and bills to pay not to mention a decision to make on $40,000 worth of donations, tickets etc. just settle this crap, hire a damn coach and go kick ass. It’s really that simple. You get what you pay for. I apologize in advance and I will continue to drive 400 miles for every home game, hell yall come come by the tailgate and eat and drink but for the love of everything of the Big Orange get this one right so we can all enjoy the fall, the football, and everything that we have come to love about UT. Peace Out......deuces.
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Guess that's two people on here that pay more for their tickets than most of us make...amirite?
 
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MIT_Beaver said:
The Comb is one of my favorite posters on VN. Insiders are around, it has been a very interesting past 2 days. The Kendrick’s issue is a big deal (both in the health of that kid and on the implications it has on Butch).

For the game theory nerds, whoever can correctly summarize the implications this has on Currie and the boosters will win a a couple free scotch drinks on me at a home game next year.
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I think it forces currie to cut Butch sooner than expected (apparently) and that TN will name an interim and announce that it is looking for a coach. This followed by a short time of searching, followed by landing a whelming hire.
 
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