Recruiting Forum Football Talk XLI

[mr.checkerboards]

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Anyone else think this is incredibly stupid?

He doesnt have to care about the future and what would,happen if he did play McBride, he gone

 

[BruinVol]

Cowardly on his part. He should take ownership but guess what? He never does because he’s not a leader which is why he should never coach big time football again. He doesn’t have what it takes

Lol.

We just find no end to our criticisms.

 

[InVOLuntary]

You expect the guy who coaches a team to zero touchdowns in almost 4 full games, then says there is nothing to change on offense, to notice something unusual about a player on offense?

Good point! I mean the Florida linemen were blocking each other

 

[InVOLuntary]

Presumptive

That's not presumptive. Read the article.

 

[RiseToTheTop]

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Anyone else think this is incredibly stupid?

yes and i dislike this guy more everyday. Such a dumbass.One of the most tone deaf individuals ive ever seen.

 

[LA Vol]

Well duh. I’m assuming people behind the scenes know what happened. However, the evidence seems to quickly be mounting against butch. Kendrick throwing up and not being able to remember the second half (as reported by Hyams) means that he almost certainly had a concussion

Right, assumptions. You're making lots of those.

 

[Ace]

BS reports? Jimmy Hyams is about as trusted as anyone in Knoxville.

Also you’re saying that a man of integrity would put a kid’s life in danger for a football game? Because that’s what you’re dealing with when it comes to brain injuries. Kendrick was seriously hurt. Concussions take weeks to truly recover from. Butch was willing to throw him right back into the fire. That’s disgraceful and I don’t want someone like that leading ANY football program.

You have no idea what CBJ knew or did not know during game. Yet you accuse him of forcing BK to play. Wow

 

[scvolfan7]

Lol.

We just find no end to our criticisms.

I am at a loss for why you’re trying to defend someone that played a guy with a concussion

 

[Aesius]

Antone Davis out, resigned as VFL coordinator per Hyams

 

[scvolfan7]

Right, assumptions. You're making lots of those.

I’m assuming people behind the scenes know more. What is public info is enough for me to lose most of my respect for butch as a person. His act of negligence caused serious risk to BK’s well being

 

[ob79]

Antone Davis out, resigned as VFL coordinator per Hyams

Wow. I'd like to hear why.

 

[Tennessee Golfer]

Antone Davis out, resigned as VFL coordinator per Hyams

So it begins.

 

[BeecherVol]

Wow. I'd like to hear why.

Actually surprised it took him that long.

 

[BruinVol]

I am at a loss for why you’re trying to defend someone that played a guy with a concussion

I find it 99% likely he had no knowledge

 

[VolGee4]

I am at a loss for why you’re trying to defend someone that played a guy with a concussion

Then why do you have medical professionals and people on the sidelines that observe for the league? It's totally asinine to jump to that conclusion. The head coach has a game to manage.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

Antone Davis out, resigned as VFL coordinator per Hyams

 

[Grey_pilgrim]

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Anyone else think this is incredibly stupid?

Yeah. I mean they could run wildcat for a play, but likely haven’t practiced that. Same as JG under center on the goal line. Or they could take a time out but Butch will save those until the other team needs one.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

Actually surprised it took him that long.

Do you know why possibly?

 

[ReadCT]

Assume with me the worst: 63 had a concussion, CBJ knew it 100%, and ignored it/hid it from trainers/played him anyway.

Does this really fit the CJB narrative of the last 5 years?

He is known as a players coach. He loves the players and wants what is best for them even if he seems to be in over his head during gamedays and press conferences. I know many want to demonize Butch to expedite a coaching change. But that is just not who he is.

 

[Grey_pilgrim]

Antone Davis out, resigned as VFL coordinator per Hyams

Just saw that. I wonder why he decided to step down mid-season

 

[Jimmy Football]

Just saw that. I wonder why he decided to step down mid-season

Might be as fed up with Butch as we are.

 

[GoBigOrange86]

You just contradicted your entire point before the end of your first sentence. Boosters and Admin not being on the same page are only rumors. Same "insiders" that have been discredited as you say.

I had that same thought, but now I'm starting to think the insiders aren't so much trolling (some of them probably are) as they are getting wildly inconsistent information which could itself be an indicator of dysfunction. That and the AD's well-earned reputation ever since Dickey left.

 

[bignewt]

Assume with me the worst: 63 had a concussion, CBJ knew it 100%, and ignored it/hid it from trainers/played him anyway.

Does this really fit the CJB narrative of the last 5 years?

He is known as a players coach. He loves the players and wants what is best for them even if he seems to be in over his head during gamedays and press conferences. I know many want to demonize Butch to expedite a coaching change. But that is just not who he is.

For most people if they hate someone they rarely let facts enter it when there is another opportunity to hate.

 

[BeecherVol]

Do you know why possibly?

Yes.

He was asked by the head coach to do something he refused to do, for good reason. Thats as much as I will say.

 

[Ace]

Assume with me the worst: 63 had a concussion, CBJ knew it 100%, and ignored it/hid it from trainers/played him anyway.

Does this really fit the CJB narrative of the last 5 years?

He is known as a players coach. He loves the players and wants what is best for them even if he seems to be in over his head during gamedays and press conferences. I know many want to demonize Butch to expedite a coaching change. But that is just not who he is.

Agreed - no way he plays him. Yet someone is responsible. Ordinarily I would say HC is responsible for everything, but during a game there is no way a HC can know the health status of every player. SEC officials, referees, UT medical staff are all responsible for player safety in game. Many layers before Butch.