Official Jon Gruden Thread XXV

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Alright everyone, my theory. Again I'll start with I AM NOT AN INSIDER. I am everything I said I was when I showed up. I have told zero lied and given zero misinformation intentionally. I have always stated they were assumptions based on crumbs on these threads. It's going to be long too..sorry.

Caveat. These are my words and my property in case I'm right. Not to be sold or redistributed per internet copyright laws that I'm familiar with due to by Aerial Imaging Company and the way it's property works. I will need one of ya'll on here that's a lawyer..possibly. LOL

This all started 5 years ago when Butch was hired. Haslam cut the rest of the boosters off at the knees by agreeing to sign Butch even after him and other candidates were told not to sign. The reason they were told is because Gruden was ready to sign, however, the previous administration refused to let the HC have that much control and authority causing this downward spiral to continue.

Now current day. Those boosters who were railroaded have been planning to replace Butch with Gruden ever since then. They saw the problems before and have worked to try and get the right people into the right positions in the administration to get that passed, and change the culture. Those boosters have currently been working as some of us have predicted for a long time to have things relatively in place for when the time came, and now it's here. They already knew Gruden was interested and have done their homework on what contractually needed to be done to release him from other obligations. Knowing that no one concedes power easily they have orchestrated this media, social media, and even the offshore lines, to bend the way it needs to. In addition to telling the AA they will withhold donations (pocket aces). What happened after the odds dropped after Beaver predicted it. Everyone paid attention because it was predicted. Leaking the 10m dollar contract info, all of it planned. They waged an information campaign. Again as I stated earlier, wars are won with overwhelming firepower and intelligence, but I left off information. This plan was crafted as a shock an awe to release everything in a short time frame to cause immediate backlash to the admin. at UT. There are numerous posters even in here who are planted to drop breadcrumbs. You just have to sort the fact from fiction and that from all the BS'in around. GV keep up your report!

I expect Butch's buyout was being worked or done after USCjr. Everyone knew Butch would lose to Alabama so why put an interim through that. I expect there is friction with the assistant coaches and that led to him staying for KY. Plus a win and they could allow him to continue finding somewhere to go, but the deal was done, he was set to be released at some point in time. As I hear on the radio, the HIRE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE FIRE. So no rush. Hope for the best and plan for the worse. I'm sure he was suppose to be fired Sunday night then one of two things happened. Haslam had cold feet (explained later), or word got around about Kendrick. Remember this was an away game and everyone got home late. It could have taken a while on Sunday before the AD heard about it and called it off. Why call it off? Simple, FIRED WITH CAUSE, no buyout. That puts Jones where he's at now, at the mercy of Currie if it's proven true, or paid with a reduced buyout when he lands at S. AL.

On to our guy, the G man, Gruden. Everyone comes in here and trolls and calls us crazy. What they don't see is what I've already stated. Finish where you started, keep your family happy, and quite possibly he was out of a job at the end of the year. I told my wife Gru is a CPT without a ship. He's a coach, the booth didn't stop that burning desire to coach. IMO he's coming. The people who have been planning this are big $$ people with a lot of time to plan and a lot of resources to throw at it. Plus they hold the Aces, $$$$.

Now why hasn't it happened. As was stated by another poster Haslam either backed out or is causing an issue as of 48hrs ago. Why the big deal with the time? That's probably when he heard Davenport was not going to outsource the University. This ACCEPTANCE would have been financial beneficial to him since he is connected to the company the contract would go to. Who recommended that company? That company is already contracted for state agencies by his brother, the Governor. However, the University has the option to opt out. Corker's name was brought up. Corker was Haslam's roommate in college and not running for reelection, but possibly for the Presidency. It's obvious him and the current one don't get along. If Corker decides to run for President Haslam will be helping them finance the campaign.

So here we are again. The Haslam's are holding things up over either money or now a grudge. I have no idea how PM or the VC in silicon valley play in. Obviously PM is a facilitator and has many things he can offer to help it go through. As far as the KH effect with him, it could be a few things that I can't predict without reading a contract. Scarabbeans....it was said to thank the Beans. Well they're obviously a secret society at UT composed of both Athletes and Academics of the highest regard. So they're your counsel. If they like it they can sell it to both sides and help it go through. The VC, no idea. There are some ways it can help finance the academic side with entrepreneurs and other for profit endeavors.

Again..All my opinion and your tax dollars (been on VN during work).

Well ya'll, hopefully someone comes in and validates or discredits all this. I'm impartial either way. I want Gruden but this has been great for my mind. Hopefully this all happens soon so my wife can have me back. Again, I'm moving to E. TN and can't wait to meet some of ya'll in person. I'll be at the Vandy game thanks to Atlanta Vol so maybe I'll see some of you there. To Vol Nation...I love ya'll, and SOON!


Shameless plug. I'm retiring soon and may need a job.

Wow, the one thing missing here as far as the beans are concerned is the boycott Neyland movement. I think they were quite possibly involved in the grassroots movement. Applying pressure to those that needed it.
 
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If butch is not fired tomorrow could the meeting bev have with the athletics committee be worth anything. I do know they are saying it’s for renovations but could there be more?
 
Alright everyone, my theory. Again I'll start with I AM NOT AN INSIDER. I am everything I said I was when I showed up. I have told zero lied and given zero misinformation intentionally. I have always stated they were assumptions based on crumbs on these threads. It's going to be long too..sorry.

Caveat. These are my words and my property in case I'm right. Not to be sold or redistributed per internet copyright laws that I'm familiar with due to by Aerial Imaging Company and the way it's property works. I will need one of ya'll on here that's a lawyer..possibly. LOL

This all started 5 years ago when Butch was hired. Haslam cut the rest of the boosters off at the knees by agreeing to sign Butch even after him and other candidates were told not to sign. The reason they were told is because Gruden was ready to sign, however, the previous administration refused to let the HC have that much control and authority causing this downward spiral to continue.

Now current day. Those boosters who were railroaded have been planning to replace Butch with Gruden ever since then. They saw the problems before and have worked to try and get the right people into the right positions in the administration to get that passed, and change the culture. Those boosters have currently been working as some of us have predicted for a long time to have things relatively in place for when the time came, and now it's here. They already knew Gruden was interested and have done their homework on what contractually needed to be done to release him from other obligations. Knowing that no one concedes power easily they have orchestrated this media, social media, and even the offshore lines, to bend the way it needs to. In addition to telling the AA they will withhold donations (pocket aces). What happened after the odds dropped after Beaver predicted it. Everyone paid attention because it was predicted. Leaking the 10m dollar contract info, all of it planned. They waged an information campaign. Again as I stated earlier, wars are won with overwhelming firepower and intelligence, but I left off information. This plan was crafted as a shock an awe to release everything in a short time frame to cause immediate backlash to the admin. at UT. There are numerous posters even in here who are planted to drop breadcrumbs. You just have to sort the fact from fiction and that from all the BS'in around. GV keep up your report!

I expect Butch's buyout was being worked or done after USCjr. Everyone knew Butch would lose to Alabama so why put an interim through that. I expect there is friction with the assistant coaches and that led to him staying for KY. Plus a win and they could allow him to continue finding somewhere to go, but the deal was done, he was set to be released at some point in time. As I hear on the radio, the HIRE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE FIRE. So no rush. Hope for the best and plan for the worse. I'm sure he was suppose to be fired Sunday night then one of two things happened. Haslam had cold feet (explained later), or word got around about Kendrick. Remember this was an away game and everyone got home late. It could have taken a while on Sunday before the AD heard about it and called it off. Why call it off? Simple, FIRED WITH CAUSE, no buyout. That puts Jones where he's at now, at the mercy of Currie if it's proven true, or paid with a reduced buyout when he lands at S. AL.

On to our guy, the G man, Gruden. Everyone comes in here and trolls and calls us crazy. What they don't see is what I've already stated. Finish where you started, keep your family happy, and quite possibly he was out of a job at the end of the year. I told my wife Gru is a CPT without a ship. He's a coach, the booth didn't stop that burning desire to coach. IMO he's coming. The people who have been planning this are big $$ people with a lot of time to plan and a lot of resources to throw at it. Plus they hold the Aces, $$$$.

Now why hasn't it happened. As was stated by another poster Haslam either backed out or is causing an issue as of 48hrs ago. Why the big deal with the time? That's probably when he heard Davenport was not going to outsource the University. This ACCEPTANCE would have been financial beneficial to him since he is connected to the company the contract would go to. Who recommended that company? That company is already contracted for state agencies by his brother, the Governor. However, the University has the option to opt out. Corker's name was brought up. Corker was Haslam's roommate in college and not running for reelection, but possibly for the Presidency. It's obvious him and the current one don't get along. If Corker decides to run for President Haslam will be helping them finance the campaign.

So here we are again. The Haslam's are holding things up over either money or now a grudge. I have no idea how PM or the VC in silicon valley play in. Obviously PM is a facilitator and has many things he can offer to help it go through. As far as the KH effect with him, it could be a few things that I can't predict without reading a contract. Scarabbeans....it was said to thank the Beans. Well they're obviously a secret society at UT composed of both Athletes and Academics of the highest regard. So they're your counsel. If they like it they can sell it to both sides and help it go through. The VC, no idea. There are some ways it can help finance the academic side with entrepreneurs and other for profit endeavors.

Again..All my opinion and your tax dollars (been on VN during work).

Well ya'll, hopefully someone comes in and validates or discredits all this. I'm impartial either way. I want Gruden but this has been great for my mind. Hopefully this all happens soon so my wife can have me back. Again, I'm moving to E. TN and can't wait to meet some of ya'll in person. I'll be at the Vandy game thanks to Atlanta Vol so maybe I'll see some of you there. To Vol Nation...I love ya'll, and SOON!


Shameless plug. I'm retiring soon and may need a job.

Excellent read. Thanks for the work.
 
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If it's true, it'll get leaked fairly quickly. JG said he was going to green bay and I doubt we'd see him on the sidelines this season. But just to know for sure would be nice

He wouldn’t take over as coach until the offseason. New hires don’t generally become the guy mid season
 
Not sure. I’m just the average fan trying to put the puzzle pieces together. I look at the timing of the leaks and who benefits to try and find a morsel of truth. If I’m wrong, no big deal. I just really find all of this fascinating.

I guess it’s possible.

I just have a hard time believing that a tweet could trigger action with someone of her position considering that most of the time they have assistants that do their social media stuff.

But we are all here to try to figure this all out!
 
Hawk, thats what Im getting at. Its all engineered. 10/31, leaked story of a blowup and buyout that was weeks ago a done deal. 11/1....next

I dont think anything is a chance or coincidence. not when thisnmuch money is involved.

RO I have been listening to you the whole time, and others, to come up with that. 11/1 may work..but hard to put out a set date on this with so many moving parts..Any military guy will tell you time can be a moving target.
 
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Majority vote while he was away?

Here are two quotes from LAVol. He posts in RF and has connections to the AD.

“Hubbs is probably talking about Charlie Anderson not knowing about Currie. Charlie wanted Fulmer for AD, so they went around him and voted in Currie. To say it caused bad feelings would be an understatement.”

“I don't have all the details, and I'm not sure that's who Hubbs was referring to. It was a messy situation. The search committee (minus Charlie) recommended Currie to the board, with Dr. Davenport's endorsement. Dr. Davenport wanted Currie and she had the votes. The board needs a quorum to meet with a majority vote to carry. Not every member votes, especially when there's an unscheduled meeting called.

I don't know how the votes played out, but it wasn't unanimous. Charlie may not have been part of the vote or he could have voted no by proxy. I don't know. I remember Peyton Manning got stuck in the middle, though, and had to tell Fulmer, who thought he had the job. Not UT's finest hour, though it ended up working out well for Fulmer.”
 
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I’ve been here since Gruden I and I swear for all that’s holy, if y’all fire Butch and hire Gruden while I’m asleep, I’ll hunt you down and skin you like the dirty rats you are.
 
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My thinking regarding VC - someone way earlier (MIT or Bubba maybe) said Gruden's pay would not be all in USD...I think that's where VC comes in to play - to be an investor (Ambassador) to the fund, you must be an MIT graduate but exceptions can be made. I think an exception was made for Gruden.

What say you?

Ding ding money isnt all there is in liquid assets
 
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