Official Jon Gruden Thread XXV

[FacelessArya]

I can't do it. It's like (and I will get yelled at for this) an iPhone. I have a Mac but I refuse to get an iPhone. Even if I wanted an iPhone, I have repped android so long, I would feel like a sellout. Plus, everyone that knows me would never let me live it down.

GoT genuinely doesn't interest me. I have made this known to all of my friends that watch it. Same scenario...they'd never let me live it down.

Well, I understand. My username is the most badass female character on the show. A little girl who is a faceless assassin. 😊

 

[VolGee4]

Oh I agree completely. Like the whazzup from Budweiser, where's the beef from secure back in the day, etc.

I kind of liked the frogs back in the day.

 

[VFL1010]

Are dungeons and dragons guys the same ones in high school that sat around and played cards and never had girlfriends? Just asking.

 

[Hawkpilot]

I’m serious man. We’re too far into this matrix to have to defend Beav anymore. I think he’s been vetted more than any sitting Supreme Court justice.

Agreed.

 

[VonVol]

If you don't mind me asking, what year Land cruiser do you have? I would love to own an FJ40.

There was one in my neighborhood. Stayed in the backyard with bushes growing around it. I stopped a few times asking if they were interested in selling. Broke my heart to see it just rust and disintegrate.

My Dad has a 1976 FJ40 that he completely restored. I love that thing. It was given to him by a friend that just wanted it off his property. The guy really Hayes seeing Dad drive it around now. Lol.

 

[andywilson001]

Here's a positive post to lighten the mood in this place.

The media and our rival fans are starting to realize that Gruden to Tennessee is a real possibility. They've been mocking us for even suggesting it up to this point, but their tone is changing rapidly as more information comes out. They are going through what I like to call, The 5 Stages of Gruden Grief.

Stage 1: Denial - "Gruden will never coach at UT! He has a cushy job at ESPN, why would he ever leave?"

Stage 2: Anger - "Only an idiot would think Gruden would ever come to UT!! Stop talking about it and move on! You're making our fanbase look stupid!!"

Stage 3: Bargaining - "Why would you even want Gruden anyway? He hasn't coached at the college level in X years and has never recruited. His record in the NFL wasn't that great. Why don't you guys go after Dan Mullen or Jeff Brohm?"

[YOU ARE HERE]

Stage 4: Depression - "I can't believe they actually got him. This is terrible for us. How will we ever compete with the almighty Grude? It's not fair!!"

Stage 5: Acceptance - "We will just have to live with the fact that Tennessee owns the SEC now and wait for Gruden to retire. I just hope we can give them a good game and not get blown out again."

 

[Sstterry]

Are dungeons and dragons guys the same ones in high school that sat around and played cards and never had girlfriends? Just asking.

Don't judge me........

 

[Hawkpilot]

Thanks. I feel like I'm playing with the big boys here. I only read 30k posts before joining in.

Awesome..so you're caught up

 

[TruVolGritt]

I hate to be that guy, and I've tried throughout this entire drama to avoid asking....but what TF is "Dilly Dilly"?

You just earned a tour in the pit of misery:yes:

 

[kayakonthefly]

I kind of liked the frogs back in the day.

Yes. Those were classic. I had forgot about them.

 

[HeadVol77]

Well, I understand. My username is the most badass female character on the show. A little girl who is a faceless assassin. 😊

I was wondering how long you were going to let them talk down about GoT

 

[10ecVol]

Good afternoon Grudenites:

I've been following the Gruden Threads since well before MIT's posts were deleted. I've been lurking here for years. This is my first post. (I tried to get in a few days ago, but I got buried in the mountains of new requests with the recent hubbub.) I just wanted to share a few thoughts.

DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT AN INSIDER! I HAVE NO PRIVILEGED INFORMATION AT ALL. EVERYTHING THAT FOLLOWS IS EITHER PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE, OR MY OPINION.

I wanted to clarify a few legal points that keep recurring:

First, there is no language in CBJ's contract that precludes the AD from interviewing new candidates. There is no exclusivity clause, etc. Barring some regulation that I've not found, UT could have two head coaches if they wanted. Anyone who thinks that Currie is barred from discussing an opening with potential candidates is mistaken. It may be poor form to do it publicly, but it is within the purview of the position of AD to offer the position to coaches who fit the criteria.

Second, there is 100% no obligation for UT to leave the job open for any period of time, or to vet X number of candidates before hiring anyone. Someone did post the relevant regulation, but it got washed over quickly. In a position like this, one candidate is all that is needed (and you could hire him before firing the other one).

Third, deals can be done, and based on conditions. For example, the Gruden deal could be totally done on the condition that CBJ goes 7-5 or worse. In that case, should CBJ go 8-4 then the Gruden deal would be void. This is important for anyone wanting a way to reconcile MIT's "deal is done" verbiage. (My personal opinion is the same as SFD, the deal was done on the Gruden side, and being taken to the AD. The "carrot," if you will.)

Fourth, it would not be surprising at all to see CBJ accept a buy out option. Like has been posted elsewhere, by negotiating a lump sum, he may actually receive more in total compensation. Every time I see someone say that CBJ would not accept a buy out option, I cringe. Stahp it.

Fifth, We all like transparency, but its hard to work in chaos. The AD is now operating quietly and discreetly. The result is the murmurs and grumblings we are seeing now. There is nothing wrong with grumbling, but from the AD perspective its easier to deal with vague grumbles than exacting criticism and involvement of having the whole world in your thoughts. This is not uncommon in these types of deals. Just have patience. If you don't have meaningful influence, keep it to social media. When the deal is done we'll know where we are and how we got there. (I'm thinking a 30-for-30 is totally warranted.)

Sixth, IMO, a CBJ game is equal in effect to an interim if you have your guy. It only makes sense to switch to an interim if you think the interim can do better than your coach. In this case, I think any interim is a totally unknown quantity. Just let it play out, these folks aren't stupid. Maybe egotistical and self destructive, but not dumb.

Seventh, haters end up on preacher's list. You don't want to be there.

To say a little about me, and why I have opinions on the law and deals, I'm an, in fact, an attorney. I do complex litigation that almost always involves complicated settlements between as many as 20 distinct parties. I concentrated my legal education on contracts, negotiation, and dispute resolution. I took every sports law related course offered at my school (one that focuses on sports law quite prominently. It has a top 3 ranking for sports law).

I believe. The facts are coming into the light. The ducks are in their rows. It's just a matter of time.

Soon.

Great info, thanks!

 

[patrick]

88-92

at UT?

I graduated from UT in Dec 92.... BS Bus Administration

 

[EweTVol]

Poop

 

[tastycar]

Well, I understand. My username is the most badass female character on the show. A little girl who is a faceless assassin. 😊

I'm sure it's a fantastic show. Literally everyone I know watches it. Literally. And, yes, I know more than 7 people.

 

[Hawkpilot]

No, this is my first account here ever. I'm 100% just a random internet guy with nothing more than a decent sense of deduction and a good memory.

The good memory is what saves you hear. Rereading and comprehension helps. The biggest thing though...patience.

 

[SmokinBob]

Mine is 11/3, would be a helluva present

Mine is 11/8 but I'll celebrate with you!!!

 

[ER Vol]

88-92

I was there from 86 - 91. Told you I spent too much time in the Lap and the Library.

 

[coffeevol]

HOOTERS IS sponsoring Tennessee stories soon fellas soon

 

[kayakonthefly]

I'm sure it's a fantastic show. Literally everyone I know watches it. Literally. And, yes, I know more than 7 people.

Most of the people I know watch it for the scenes without dress.

 

[patrick]

I was there from 86 - 91. Told you I spent too much time in the Lap and the Library.

ah the Lap.....

$ nights and cricket.....

 

[BearCat204]

What does that have to do with gruden

 

[General Jack]

I LOVED the Library. Broke my heart when UT and the Lap closed.

Dollar beers and mixed drinks on Wednesdays. Good times.

 

[FacelessArya]

I was wondering how long you were going to let them talk down about GoT

Never! I don’t offer much to the table as far as football goes, but if I’ve defended the show, then my time here is worth it. 😂

 

[coffeevol]

Soon