Official Jon Gruden Thread XX

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I feel ya bud. I don't think many of us thought we would be this bad.
If your good, you don't drop off this far in year 5.

Correct.. If you can develop talent, then you DO NOT 'auger in' like Butch & Co. are doing..
 
Hutch has never said he was coming.. he has always said he did not know and he sat with him at Carolina game

Yes sir. Hutch, Larry and the rest of us don't know. We have friends that give us hope or sorrow about this issue. The AD/his trusted few and Gruden are the only ones that know.

We won't even get any solid leaks until there is a job opening.
 
My apologies,got a little carried away myself in my response. Too harsh I know, a little butt hurt after another bammer beat down. FWIW I don't think Fisher is the worst coach ever, but I do only think that he would be a nominal upgrade over what we have.

Would be like Bill Calahan to Nebraska. Fisher is a USC guy and I bet you he never got a call from them.
 
Did you delete your Currie post about him being controlled by someone from a hour ago?
It's no longer there.

I did not make a post like that today.. This is the only thread I have posted in today on this site..

The boosters all have a say in things like this, some a lot more say than others. I'm not afraid to make that known/ I would use controlled as a term though. They influence athletic directors. Make their wishes known and then AD can listen or not. Hamilton did not and that is why he is no longer here
 
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And if Gruden has agreed to take the job then you go ahead and fire Jones an hour ago. If for no other reason than to get a jump start on the smokescreen of an actual coaching search. Then when you go through that for an ample period of time, you make the Gruden hire public, save the recruiting class, and become the biggest story in college football.

Sitting on a deal with Gruden and letting Jones continue only hurts the program's future.


The only way I am going to buy your info is if Jones is officially fired in the next 48 hours. If that happens I will humbly apologize and rain torrents of ecred upon you.

I agree with this .... makes sense to me.... somebody is right and somebody is wrong... we should know by "Tuesday" that is what DTO said, Tuesday should be a BIG day for Vols
 
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Maybe you answered this but how are you able to share so much info, so freely, without any fear of your source finding out? Do they care if you share?

Help me (and the rest of Volnation) out her a bit. I’ve been thinking about how different you have been this whole situation. Even thamilron came and went but you’ve stuck around. You are apparently wealthy to some degree which allows you to run in some circles many will never know. You also play a lot of golf and I know first hand that tons of business gets done on the golf course. Take this the right way, but you must not have a close relationship with the person who’s relaying this info and they have no clue you’re sharing it, so you don’t care to break their trust. They’d never suspect you to share it. Only reason I’m asking all of this is because it’s clear only 2-4 people probably know ANYTHING right now and the way your talking, you’ve got to be pretty close to that inner circle in a way they’d never suspect you to be a leak.

Or you’re just full of it. Again, no offense.


I’d like a answer to this as well. You make a fair point. Good perspective
 
The only thing I can think of is currie is trying to minimize his buyout even more than what's already been done...but butch is doing so at his own risk

You may be right and if that's the case Jones must be standing firm and willing to allow his stock to bottom out in the process. I can definitely see him doing this because he has proven to be quite stubborn throughout his stay here.
 
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Sorry bro. That was directed at the person who asked about Jeff Fisher. Lol. My bad. Whewwwww!

First, I asked for thoughts. I did not say let’s go after him. With the names that are being thrown out if JG says no, I wondered what others thought about JF compared to Frost, Frohm, Bobo, Fleck, etc. I was not looking for insults to be thrown my way, just asking a question.

Second, I do not know how much you know about football, so I will not say that I know more than you. That being said, I would say I have a pretty good handle on football and do not doubt my ability to hold my own in football knowledge.

Saying all that, sorry to have riled you up while asking for thoughts on another name. You have made your thoughts perfectly clear.
 
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Is Butch tanking on purpose just so he can get out with all the money? Feels that way.

we are just bad. We have so bad coaches and we kids playing that have not been developed very well. Neither of our QBs are close to being SEC level QBs that should be starting. Several OL same thing. WRs are lost most of the time (did you notice trick play today?)

they are not tanking. Kids played hard today and gave effort. We just are not very good.
 
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