Official Jon Gruden Thread XIX

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Boro said the information could be quiet “inflammatory”, I hate to even think it, but could Peyton actually be working on JG to the Colts???
 
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YankeeVol said:
Straight cash homie
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Need more than we got. TCU isn’t destitute. Also he doesn’t have to worry about an off season. He can have a 4-8 season like 2013 and be around for 12-1 the next season. Mega-Frogs have gone underground (if they’re not extinct) and he’s chasing championships...not looking to grow another program.
 
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MKEvol said:
Ok. This is going to be a little long, but please everyone read. Also let me say that I am all aboard the Gruden train and have been for years. Hoping this is finally the time it happens.

Now, I don't want to dampen anyone's excitement here, but legally there are some things that need to be cleared up in this thread. Mostly this is just timeline stuff. I have seen several places rumors that there are agreements in place with Butch and Gruden, and everything is just waiting to be announced, etc. This is absolutely, incontrovertibly false. There is zero chance the general counsel's office would agree to these "agreements" at this point in time. Why? There is one major roadblock in place, Butch is still employed by the university and has a contract.

Butch:
Now, I have also seen places where "Butch and the university have agreed to something" but no coach is agreeing to be fired/resign and then continuing to coach, it just doesn't happen. Certainly it doesn't happen without news leaking. The GC's office may have something typed up and ready to go for if/when Currie pulls the trigger, but believe me when I say the nothing has been finalized. I am sure the GCs office has reviewed Butch's contract and has been advising Currie at this point on what would happen if/when he decides to fire Butch. But there is no contract in place between Butch and TN, yet, that formally ends the relationship. Sorry.

Gruden:
For Gruden the issue becomes even clearer, then, based on the roadblock. There is absolutely no way he has any sort of agreement to coach TN yet. ZERO. In fact, there is ZERO chance that any sort of agreement has even been initially drafted, etc. As long as Butch has a contract in place, any agreement or formulation of an agreement with Gruden would constitute tortious interference. Butch would love for this to happen. Why? Not only would he sue Gruden/TN and receive the entire value of the contract that was interfered with, he would also be entitled to punitive damages. Even worse is that Butch would have a claim for a negative injunction against Gruden and the school that would legally block Gruden from taking the TN job. All because they would have frustrated Butch's ability to complete his own contractual relationship with the university.


So where does this logically leave us?
The timeline has to go in order. First, Butch has to be fired. This would end the interference claim and allow Currie and the GCs office to engage in actual negotiations with Gruden and his team. Second, becomes the negotiations. Third, is the offer. And fourth is waiting for an acceptance or denial. Its really that simple.

Now, the positive news. TN is not sitting on its hands doing nothing. I would be shocked if people like the Haslem's, and Peyton, and Phil are not in touch with Gruden's people gauging interest. It would be criminal not to know where he stands before embarking on this attempt. I would guess we also know there is mutual interest there. Back channels are probably feeling each other out. Gruden may be even contacting people to see who might form a staff with him, if he is offered the job. That is all prudent for the decision making. Perhaps Gruden would only come if he has the right team in place, I don't know. But he would be dumb, knowing the rumors are out there, to not at least be investigating whether he'd take the job at this point too. So sit back and wait. Nothing is in place. I would hope and assume that Butch will be fired after we get drilled by Bama this weekend (sorry, its definitely happening). If he is not, then it is time to direct the anger towards Currie and force his hand.

The time has come. We need to fire Butch. Its over. While we may not get Gruden, my hope is that the school at least throws the blank check his way and makes him say no. But if they truly care about TN, then they have t make him say no. If he turns us down, fine. Then go to the next best coach. Enough with the bargain bin diving.

Go vols! Go Gruden!
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For those who have not read and were just told about other offer from other school nfl team etc being turned down..I recommend reading this once a day now until Butch is fired. This I believe is the reality
 
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volgr said:
Well, it looks like it is official...

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The art of the deal!
 
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1allvol said:
Boro said the information could be quiet “inflammatory”, I hate to even think it, but could Peyton actually be working on JG to the Colts???
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I would think it more likely the Colts made a pass independent of PM, but that the optics of people assuming PM would be involved may have played a role in the rejection.
 
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butchna said:
Need more than we got. TCU isn’t destitute. Also he doesn’t have to worry about an off season. He can have a 4-8 season like 2013 and be around for 12-1 the next season. Mega-Frogs have gone underground (if they’re not extinct) and he’s chasing championships...not looking to grow another program.
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The fact that Patterson didn't throw his name in for the Texas job the last two times it came open, where he already has a recruiting base, tells me he isn't leaving TCU. Shame, I'd love to have him, and they can't fill up a 50,000 seat stadium even when they're a top 5 team.
 
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LittleDTO said:
Nope.

I haven’t posted cause this thing is a rollercoaster. I’ll update with this and it will be my last post for a few days.

Everything I was told about it being over I 100% believe. However, I think the assumption was the new offer was accepted. Was told this morning that Gruden is back on the table.

Not my info. I trust it whole heartedly though.
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LakeMaryFLVol said:
For those who have not read and were just told about other offer from other school nfl team etc being turned down..I recommend reading this once a day now until Butch is fired. This I believe is the reality
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All of this is assuming a buyout hasn't been reached between the University and Butch Jones as reported by DTO. If a buyout has been reached than there could by a clause in the agreement that allows the University to go ahead and get into a contract with a potential coach.
 
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