Recruiting Forum Talk XXXIX

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#3,702
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InVOLuntary said:
Oh, he jelly. Lol
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lol got them great grandkiddies teaching you the whippersnapper lingo now


But I must admit, you have a point. I'd kill to have a friend who is also friends with the has-been AD of UTC who drunkenly subtweets other schools and swears if HE'D been hired, then he'd have pulled Chris Peterson.

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chavisut said:
Gruden
Kelly
Patterson

Taggart
Frost
Fuente
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#3,704
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I'd be Irate if we hired Kiffin or Petrino. As for Bobo type coaches that are lower rated then Butch in my estimation, I'm not getting any younger. That would be too depressing.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
lol got them great grandkiddies teaching you the whippersnapper lingo now


But I must admit, you have a point. I'd kill to have a friend who is also friends with the has-been AD of UTC who drunkenly subtweets other schools and swears if HE'D been hired, then he'd have pulled Chris Peterson.

jellymad
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Oh he real jelly. Lol

He's in japan. That makes it long distance jelly. Angry jelly. Maybe when you grow up you'll have sources. Maybe even friends.
 
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Jimbo Fisher may not be much of a realistic option imo.

Fisher's salary is $5.5m this year (not including bonuses or perks) based on the contract extension he signed in Dec 2016. The contract runs through 2024 and he gets an automatic $250k raise each year. So in 2018 his salary will be $5.75m, 2019 = $6m, etc.

Two other novelties in his contract.

First, if he wins 9 or more games in a given year, his contract allows him to automatically extended for one year. He has 2 of these options built in so he can do this on his own twice. The school has already committed. Theoretically, that means the contract is likely until 2026, if he wants it to be.

Second, the buyouts:

Buyout if Fisher leaves: If he elects to leave, Fisher’s buyout is now the sum of all monies remaining on the contracts of his assistant coaches not retained by the university.

So, for example, if Fisher leaves, and the university retains none of ten coaches each making $500,000 on one-year deals, Fisher would owe the school $5M within 30 days. Given that many assistants are employed on two- or three-year contracts, it’s likely that this buyout number could be in the $10-15M range.

The practical impact of this is that it makes it safer for the school to give bigger raises to assistants, without the fear that it will be stuck paying them (or buying them out) if Fisher were to leave.

Buyout if FSU wants to terminate: Fisher would be owed the entirety of the contract — 20 weeks worth paid for by the school, and the remainder by the Boosters.

As an example, If FSU wanted to go in a new direction six years down the line, and the two option extensions have been triggered, it would cost the school/boosters roughly $22M to buy him out in 2022.

Recruiting: Fisher has received raises from the school in each of the last four seasons, thanks in large part to interest, real or perceived, from other schools. But a deal of this length will likely end the annual speculation about Fisher staying or going somewhere else. And that should help recruiting, and remove negative ammo from rival recruiters that Fisher is always looking to leave Tallahassee.
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2017 = $5,500,000 + Bonuses + Perks
2018 = $5,750,000 + Bonuses + Perks
2019 = $6,000,000 + Bonuses + Perks
2020 = $6,250,000 + Bonuses + Perks
2022 = $6,500,000 + Bonuses + Perks
2022 = $6,750,000 + Bonuses + Perks
2023 = $7,000,000 + Bonuses + Perks
2024 = $7,250,000 + Bonuses + Perks
2025 = $7,500,000 + Bonuses + Perks
2026 = $7,750,000 + Bonuses + Perks

Breakdown: Jimbo Fisher’s new contract extension with Florida State - Tomahawk Nation

S/N: If for some reason FSU fired Fisher this year without cause, they'd owe him around $45m. What are we paying if we buy out Butch? lol
 
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Financially, our best target appears to be Frost. He'll likely want to keep his staff intact and we can pay both him and his staff up to 3 times or more what they are currently earning. We don't necessarily have to but we could, easily. He seems very loyal to his staff so that could be a factor.

I'm raising my projection for Frost to be our next head coach from 20% to 30%.

By the way, is it just impolite for anyone to mention that the national championship he won at Nebraska was against us or to bring up the names of the 2 quarterbacks we put on the field in that game? I'm just asking. I'm not trying to start anything. I just never see it mentioned and wondered if that was taboo or something.
 
#3,715
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If we do somehow get Frost he would be smart to keep a few coaches who know the SEC. (Shoop, Gillespie, & Rock)
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Oh he real jelly. Lol
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I just think it's likely that the Blackburn (who's been in TN basically his whole life) could have been overstating his relationship with the guy who who has coached east of the rocky mountains one year out of the 30 he's been coaching. Your friend could be 100% trustworthy and relaying bad info from Blackburn. Wouldn't be the first time an AD overestimated their ability to draw a coach to their school.

I know you likely won't want to consider that idea though. So I'll just leave it at that and let you draw validation from having a friend who know David Blackburn :hi:
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
I just think it's likely that the Blackburn (who's been in TN basically his whole life) could have been overstating his relationship with the guy who who has coached east of the rocky mountains one year out of the 30 he's been coaching. Your friend could be 100% trustworthy and relaying bad info from Blackburn. Wouldn't be the first time an AD overestimated their ability to draw a coach to their school.

I know you likely won't want to consider that idea though. So I'll just leave it at that and let you draw validation from having a friend who know David Blackburn :hi:
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Why is it so hard to imagine two friends wanting to work together? No one said he'd ever leave Boise but he did. You are using past experience to predict future events. I'm direct quotes from someone I know and trust. I put more value on that. You put more value on a Google search. It's as simple as that. Also, they my friend and David are are more than just acquaintances. They are very good friends. I don't think David would lie to him.
 
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Zeke Elliott granted temporary restraining order to play this week and possibly next until another formal appeal hearing...lol what a circus.
 
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scvolfan7 said:
Is there any scenario where we go get tee Martin and maybe try to convince shoop to stay or get a top level DC?
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Still don't get this. No WAY they hire Tee with so little OC experience and zero HC experience. We don't even know how much the offense is his. Would be worse than rolling the dice and hiring someone who has never been an OC to be your OC. Why would anyone even want this?
 
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LaagerVol said:
Still don't get this. No WAY they hire Tee with so little OC experience and zero HC experience. We don't even know how much the offense is his. Would be worse than rolling the dice and hiring someone who has never been an OC to be your OC. Why would anyone even want this?
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I don’t want it to happen but if it did I wouldn’t be too disappointed. Tee would recruit at a top 5 level here and if he has the right staff around him he can develop that talent.
 
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