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#380
#380
Gruden makes over $7,000,000 now doing nothing. Why would he come to TN, or anywhere, and put up with the fans?

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#382
#382
gunner said:
I was trying to take your opinion and argument seriously until the Maryville High School remark. Then you just lost all credibility.
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Gunner, surely your capable of detecting sarcasm? I do appreciate the acknowledgement of the validity of my argument, however it sounds like you need to loosen up a little and recognize sarcasm.
 
#383
#383
At this point I just expect us to get the chubby hateful chick on Dance Moms and never be relevant again.

By the way, has this been the longest two weeks in the history of UT football?
 
#384
#384
GRN1926 said:
A lot of inaccurate things here. Multiple players in the NFL. Chip Kelly beat Stanford twice with Andrew Luck on their team. He beat Pete Carroll, Jim Harbough, David Shaw, a top 10 Dantonio Michigan State team, a top 5 Snyder Kansas St team, and a top 10 Bielema Wisconsin team that had Russell Wilsona and Monte Ball to just name a few. Helfrich then took Chips players and system and had a Heisman winning QB and went to the NC while beating Florida State en route. His defense held Auburn, who was averaging 43pts per game and had the Heisman QB Cam Newton, to 22pts. A variation of the spread offense is used by almost every successful football team in college. Chip turned a philly team that was 29th in offense to a top 5 offense his first year in the NFL, won his division once and went to the playoffs twice which better than Saban and Spurriers tenure's in the NFL. His offense averaged 300yds per game and is not a "gimmick", like I said variation of the spread is used by teams like Clemson, Oklahoma, bama, tcu, etc. Scott Frost is considered one of the best up and coming coaches in the country and he uses the same offense as Kelly from his time at Oregon and he has turned an 0-12 UCF team into a 4-1 squad in his 2nd season. Gruden says Chip Kelly is one of the best offensive minds in all of college football as well, pretty high praise from a guy that is very respected in the football community
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I could go through and make some sort of argument to every point you made.Which are valid points but I think it is deeper than what is on the surface. I will only mention a few. The Big 10 teams he beat were early in the year and the rankings mean nothing. Maybe 2nd game or so with the Spartans. We all know that Wisconsin plays on the easy side of the Big 10 so they are always ranked high until the end of the year. Such as this year. And Russell Wilson wasn't a superstar in college and where is Monte Ball now? I not sure where all the NFL players you mentioned are.....? Anyway, also if you remember, during his tenure his offense was relatively new. No one could match up good with them. Even shortly after this type of offense began to literally spread to other teams, Saban mentioned he had to change his recruiting to smaller faster LBs, etc. I believe his success was built basically because of match up problems and newness of the offense. However, everyone has caught up to the times and he cannot be as effective. The Gruden comment more than likely came long ago when his offense was the latest and greatest. The Philly thing is a good example, year 1 great then downhill, everyone figured it out. Helfrich as well, other teams started recruiting the types of players that could match up better with the spread that everyone began to run. You proved my point with those examples. Helfrich is nowhere and if Chip is so hot, why isn't he coaching. In today's game, he would not be as successful. San Fran as well another example of other coaches catching on. He had his shining moment and now it is gone.
 
#385
#385
gunner said:
1. Chip Kelly
2. Chip Kelly
3. Chip Kelly

He's an offensive genius, and a proven winner. He was 46-7 in 4 seasons at Oregon.

He left that roster loaded with talent, so we can know he can recruit.

He's sitting at ESPN waiting on a phone call. This reminds me so much of when Ohio State hired Urban Myer.

He would easily make the Vols relevant again nationally.

He would challenge Alabama by his second season at UT, and the first time he hangs 50 points on Satin, he would probably force him to retire.

He's the big splash, home run hire that the Vols have been waiting on!

The timing couldn't be better for the Vols to hire him!
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My response to another member; more reasons not to choose him.

I could go through and make some sort of argument to every point you made.Which are valid points but I think it is deeper than what is on the surface. I will only mention a few. The Big 10 teams he beat were early in the year and the rankings mean nothing. Maybe 2nd game or so with the Spartans. We all know that Wisconsin plays on the easy side of the Big 10 so they are always ranked high until the end of the year. Such as this year. And Russell Wilson wasn't a superstar in college and where is Monte Ball now? I not sure where all the NFL players you mentioned are.....? Anyway, also if you remember, during his tenure his offense was relatively new. No one could match up good with them. Even shortly after this type of offense began to literally spread to other teams, Saban mentioned he had to change his recruiting to smaller faster LBs, etc. I believe his success was built basically because of match up problems and newness of the offense. However, everyone has caught up to the times and he cannot be as effective. The Gruden comment more than likely came long ago when his offense was the latest and greatest. The Philly thing is a good example, year 1 great then downhill, everyone figured it out. Helfrich as well, other teams started recruiting the types of players that could match up better with the spread that everyone began to run. You proved my point with those examples. Helfrich is nowhere and if Chip is so hot, why isn't he coaching. In today's game, he would not be as successful. San Fran as well another example of other coaches catching on. He had his shining moment and now it is gone.
 
#386
#386
Now based off of who I think Tennessee could land......if they paid/tried hard enough.

Chip Kelly
Chris Petersen
Mark Dantonio
 
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#388
#388
Petersenx3...but he will never leave the West Coast.

Of those we could actually get

Leach
Fuentes
Bohl

I don't want Chip Kelly. All offense and not physical not a good match for the SEC.
 
#390
#390
Checkerboard_Vol said:
I could go through and make some sort of argument to every point you made.Which are valid points but I think it is deeper than what is on the surface. I will only mention a few. The Big 10 teams he beat were early in the year and the rankings mean nothing. Maybe 2nd game or so with the Spartans. We all know that Wisconsin plays on the easy side of the Big 10 so they are always ranked high until the end of the year. Such as this year. And Russell Wilson wasn't a superstar in college and where is Monte Ball now? I not sure where all the NFL players you mentioned are.....? Anyway, also if you remember, during his tenure his offense was relatively new. No one could match up good with them. Even shortly after this type of offense began to literally spread to other teams, Saban mentioned he had to change his recruiting to smaller faster LBs, etc. I believe his success was built basically because of match up problems and newness of the offense. However, everyone has caught up to the times and he cannot be as effective. The Gruden comment more than likely came long ago when his offense was the latest and greatest. The Philly thing is a good example, year 1 great then downhill, everyone figured it out. Helfrich as well, other teams started recruiting the types of players that could match up better with the spread that everyone began to run. You proved my point with those examples. Helfrich is nowhere and if Chip is so hot, why isn't he coaching. In today's game, he would not be as successful. San Fran as well another example of other coaches catching on. He had his shining moment and now it is gone.
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So I list facts and your rebuttal is "I think teams have figured out the offense". Not trying to be a jerk but the fact saban, who complained about uptempo spread offenses has even implemented the spread into his offense. Kelly's offense isn't s secret, it is predicated on the defense knowing what they are doing so they will react and then you can leverage them. TN ran the pro-style offense for years with high success, there was no secret there. Rum the ball and use play action to big big plays over the top. Is that a gimmick offense? Everyone knew what was coming, why didn't they recruit players to stop it?

It's all about execution
 
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#391
#391
Brady Hoke is man with plenty of rebuilding experience and affordable as a backup plan. Great recruiter. 95% of the list are pipe dreams. Same song same verse - coaches will use Vol job to broker stronger deal where they are - plan D suddenly becomes Plan A. Mark Richt also should get a serious look.
 
#394
#394
Would love to see the big names.
1. Gruden
2. Patterson
3.Kelly

However, I think it could come down to Frost, Pruitt and Venebles.

Fuente stays at VT and Mullen's ambiguous connection to the Leo Lewis issue scares Currie away.

Going the Pruitt/Venables route is risky due to lack of HC experience but both are lights out recruiters in the South and know how to develop championship level defense.

Interesting way to analyze it is by researching Currie's baseball hire. He prioritized recruiting, southeast ties and experience with championship level teams
 
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#395
#395
With what's going down here in Louisville, believe me when I say you want no part of Bobby Petrino. The whole AD is going down with this latest scandal.
 
#398
#398
Chip goes without saying so...

1) Brohm
2) Fleck
3) Venables

Frost if he wouldn't leave the first time Nebraska came calling.

I don't think Gruden is realistic, but I think Petrino is. Jackson is gone after this year and their athletic department is screwed.

There is absolutely no chance Peterson leaves Washington, he's a west coast guy with family members who have special needs.

Do we really want Les at this point?

I think if we could possibly get Chip Kelly, Brohm or Venables I would be very pleased with the future outlook of our program. I'm not sold entirely on Fleck yet, but think he could be a future star. Sorry for rambling on.
 
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