Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXVI

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I don't know that any elite coach would come to the only program in the country that has to beat Saban twice a year basically every year to get anywhere. Not while Saban has it rolling anyway. Once a year? Sure, lots of coaches will take that challenge. But not twice.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
I like Taggart he's a winner.
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I don't have a definitive opinion on him one way or another, I'd like to see how his time at Oregon plays out first. I'm just saying that if we, hypothetically fired Jones last year, and grabbed WT most (not you and Lotto but most) would've cried that he was unproven and not the 7 time super bowl champion coach that UT "deserves".
 
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jave36 said:
I don't know that any elite coach would come to the only program in the country that has to beat Saban twice a year basically every year to get anywhere. Not while Saban has it rolling anyway. Once a year? Sure, lots of coaches will take that challenge. But not twice.
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A good coach would. Harbaugh signed up to play Urban yearly at the end of the year. Good coaches will come you have to pay them though.
 
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NochNoch said:
I don't have a definitive opinion on him one way or another, I'd like to see how his time at Oregon plays out first. I'm just saying that if we, hypothetically fired Jones last year, and grabbed WT most (not you and Lotto but most) would've cried that he was unproven and not the 7 time super bowl champion coach that UT "deserves".
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He's winning everywhere like Urban Meyer was.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
A good coach would. Harbaugh signed up to play Urban yearly at the end of the year. Good coaches will come you have to pay them though.
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Harbaugh only has to play urban once a year, max. Guarantee he doesn't take the job if Michigan has to play him twice a year.

And even if that weren't true, Urban at OSU isn't as good as urban at UF. He isn't completely dominating the conference.

And on top of all that, it's his alma mater
 
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The Breakerboy said:
We haven't dominated up front on offense since the first half of the Oklahoma game two years ago. We physically did whatever the hell we felt like doing. We have much more talent up front and at RB right now.
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Spot on. 2015 we looked elite. We we as good or better than Bama and Okalahoma for 3.5 quarters.

What the **** happened in the 2016 off season?

Shoop.
 
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32-21 Butch Jones (1st 53 games as UT HC)
3-0 in bowls

32-21 Dabo Swinney (1st 53 games as CU HC)
1-3 in bowls

Dabo finished his 5th year 11-2 and a win in the Chick-fil-A Bowl. Remember Clemsoning? Weren't they the butt of the media's jokes? Would y'all consider them elite now?

Can y'all be patient?
 
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LotteryPick said:
The man went from 2-10 to 10-2 in four seasons. That 75% can say what they want, but I don't think USF had ever posted a double digit win total until that season.
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I mean, I think technically you're right bc they only won 9 but another coach did have them at #2 in the country once.
 
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NochNoch said:
I don't have a definitive opinion on him one way or another, I'd like to see how his time at Oregon plays out first. I'm just saying that if we, hypothetically fired Jones last year, and grabbed WT most (not you and Lotto but most) would've cried that he was unproven and not the 7 time super bowl champion coach that UT "deserves".
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You are probably right about this.
 
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NochNoch said:
I mean, I think technically you're right bc they only won 9 but another coach did have them at #2 in the country once.
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But the sentiment remains. He flipped the program back around in a very short time.

Recruiting against the other superior Florida schools.
 
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NochNoch said:
I know you love him but hiring Taggart would get killed by 75% around here as being "beneath us" as a program.
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Wasn't the the initial reaction to Butch, for the most part?

I think his resume was pretty impressive. He went from RB coach at Stanford under Harbaugh to a UK team that had just entered the FBS 2 years prior (record 2-22 those first two seasons). He got them to a bowl by his 2nd and 3rd years.

Then he had another poor squad that he built into a 10 win team at USF.

Time will tell if he'll win big at Oregon, but I think he's a good fit there.
 
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Tennessee Golfer said:
32-21 Butch Jones (1st 53 games as UT HC)
3-0 in bowls

32-21 Dabo Swinney (1st 53 games as CU HC)
1-3 in bowls

Dabo finished his 5th year 11-2 and a win in the Chick-fil-A Bowl. Remember Clemsoning? Weren't they the butt of the media's jokes? Would y'all consider them elite now?

Can y'all be patient?
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That woukd be incredible! But if Butch does go 7-5 in year 5 and not 11-2 like Clemson did, what would be your thoughts?
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
Wasn't the the initial reaction to Butch, for the most part?

I think his resume was pretty impressive. He went from RB coach at Stanford under Harbaugh to a UK team that had just entered the FBS 2 years prior (record 2-22 those first two seasons). He got them to a bowl by his 2nd and 3rd years.

Then he had another poor squad that he built into a 10 win team at USF.

Time will tell if he'll win big at Oregon, but I think he's a good fit there.
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I think he is too. I'd actually love to have him at UT (although I'm not replacing Jones yet) I was just saying people would have hughed and cried at this hiring because we didn't go get our "Saban".
 
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Hey guys, just dropping by to make sure we are still irate over the thrilling comeback victory and subsequent 35 point victory while scouting for a new coach.

Ok, cool. I'll see ya later
 
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Tennessee Golfer said:
32-21 Butch Jones (1st 53 games as UT HC)
3-0 in bowls

32-21 Dabo Swinney (1st 53 games as CU HC)
1-3 in bowls

Dabo finished his 5th year 11-2 and a win in the Chick-fil-A Bowl. Remember Clemsoning? Weren't they the butt of the media's jokes? Would y'all consider them elite now?

Can y'all be patient?
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We go 11-2 and you are on to something.
 
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Tennessee Golfer said:
32-21 Butch Jones (1st 53 games as UT HC)
3-0 in bowls

32-21 Dabo Swinney (1st 53 games as CU HC)
1-3 in bowls

Dabo finished his 5th year 11-2 and a win in the Chick-fil-A Bowl. Remember Clemsoning? Weren't they the butt of the media's jokes? Would y'all consider them elite now?

Can y'all be patient?
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Nice. If Shoop can get that defense right 11 wins is very possible with our schedule.
 
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Chief Vol 13 said:
Who is that guy for Tennessee though?
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We already tried a loud mouth NFL reject with an oversized ego.

We could just rehire him, I'm pretty sure he will be available soon. :eek:lol:

Could also give Michigan a few years to get wise that they are over paying for the 3rd best coach in their division and show Harbaugh the door.
 
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