Charlottesville white nationalists riots

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n_huffhines said:
If the cops aren't fighting the war on drugs in your neighborhood despite people doing drugs, then that would be considered white privilige.
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volbeast33 said:
I consider them my family and friends... I am around them constantly.... I talk to them and that is what they tell me....white neighborhoods and black neighborhoods that do drugs are entirely different from what I have seen... white people stay more hidden indoors while black people are more openly dealing.
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Who told you what? Are your family and friend cops or drug users?
 
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05_never_again said:
I know you want to run a "the media is biased" angle here, and I normally am sympathetic to such viewpoints, but the "bias" here in this case is simply a bias for ratings.

Antifa and their role in Charlottesville doesn't get talked about because the general public, quite simply, has no clue who they are. They've heard of the KKK and neo-Nazis.
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I didn't know what antifa was until this discussion; then I did some research - what you find is pretty ugly. They could easily replace the SA (Brown Shirts) that initially put Hitler in play; there's just little difference in tactics. Antifa doesn't seem to show up so much as an organization to actually promote or to say anything of value; rather they show up to violently prevent the free speech of others. They simply are destroyers and not builders.

Yeah, we don't know about antifa because the media have never bothered to acknowledge them or "inform" anyone about them. Right now antifa falls in the category of useful idiots for the media - good for a story, good for shocking violence, but without a demonstrable message to place them in a whacked out category such as the white supremacists the media use as the bully.

Watch the network news from the last couple of days and they clearly put the blame on the demonstrators - the ones with the permit, and not the party crashers looking for violence. Antifa proudly says that violence is part of their agenda.
 
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Septic said:
You just moved the goalposts. No one disputes that he was a Klansman, just the claim he was a Grand Wizard. The fact is, he wasn't.





You've misquoted and misrepresented the position. Typical around here. He stated he "he joined because they were anti-communist", not that he didn't know what they did and it was something different than he thought - which is a complete misrepresentation.





If his departure from the org was followed by decades of service promoting racial equality, absolutely. Talk is cheap, Robert Byrd backed up his remorse and regret with action. I'd imagine that not many Klan members get 100% ratings from the NAACP for voting in line with their agenda.
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I said Grand Wizard jokingly. I have no idea what a grand wizard even is. To me a klansmen is a klansmen. Grand Wizard sounds funnier, so I used it.

As for the rest, I still very much doubt you would show Trump (R) the same leniency as you do Grand Lizard Byrd (D) as it pertains to affiliations with a hate group if the roles were reversed. But you do you.
 
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Trump's father attended and was arrested at a Klan rally. Trump quite clearly is a racist himself--that's a fact. He spent years publicly questioning Obama's American citizenship--a genuine birther. And being a racist is but one of Trump's multiple, serious personal deficiencies. His lack of fitness for the presidency is off the charts. You could literally pick 1,000 people randomly to be president--and they'd ALL be more fit than Trump. They would all at the least try to moderate or eliminate any tendencies or qualities that might not be appropriate for the presidency. Trump, on the other hand, just keeps on chugging along--he's determined to be the biggest d--k he can be, 24/7.
 
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hog88 said:
Ummmm, what would Trump be voting on? I'm pretty damn sure this is the first public office he's ever held.
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That's why "the Russians" are so important = negative alt-voting record. Libs just make stuff up if they don't have anything to run with, and the media will cover all day long.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I don't know that anyone deserves a pat on the back for having their voting record 100% aligned with another group. Either they don't think for themselves or they are bought and paid for.
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Maybe he was making up for his past wrongs? Maybe he genuinely believed that black folks got a bad shake and he was righting a wrong for his constituents.

Who knows why people do what they do, I was simply pointing out a opposing view to the meme that was presented earlier depicting him as a grand wizard openly serving as a senator.
 
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Mick said:
Who told you what? Are your family and friend cops or drug users?
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Nope personal experience......when I have been in predominantly black neighborhoods they were guys standing on street corners ordering me things as I went by.... once at a gas station a guy rolled out a crack rock on his tongue asking if I wanted some... I thought that was disgusting. LOL in my neighborhood, the next door neighbor was dealing stuff and his buyers would park up the street and run across the field to his place and back.......it's a different approach but the first example draws more attention.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
I said Grand Wizard jokingly. I have no idea what a grand wizard even is. To me a klansmen is a klansmen. Grand Wizard sounds funnier, so I used it.

As for the rest, I still very much doubt you would show Trump (R) the same leniency as you do Grand Lizard Byrd (D) as it pertains to affiliations with a hate group if the roles were reversed. But you do you.
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Whatever dude, the meme that kicked this off stated Grand Wizard - you followed that up by stating the same. Text doesn't convey tone so I had no reason to suspect jest.

Doubt what you will, Trump isn't a Republican and letters behind names don't impress me anyhow.

Actions, not words speak the loudest irrespective of part affiliation.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Perhaps I wasn't clear. I will try to clarify my previous thoughts...

I am saying that in order to reach the same point in life minorities need to try harder to open doors. I wasn't accusing anyone of being lazy. I was making the observation that a lot of doors have been open to me because I look a certain way. Things which I have never considered an obstacle are obstacles for minorities.

It is indisputable that a greater percentage of blacks grow up in poverty. This starting point gives them less access to good schooling. I had the advantage of going to good schools. Many blacks don't. So the starting point for you average black is further back. They are already losing the race without taking a step. You can say this is a matter of economics and I won't disagree, but we have to find ways to try remedy the situation.

When it comes to job interviews, blacks have a harder time getting the initial interview. Studies have been performed that resumes with "black names" are given fewer interviews than resumes with names that provide no real indication of race. It's an obstacle I've never faced as I have one of the whitest names on the planet.

I know the rallying cry is affirmative action. Companies that have any sort of affirmative action program are in the minority.
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But schools aren't. Politicians have totally screwed the education process. Democrats don't want charter schools in the poorer areas of towns for minorities (if they did we would have school voucher programs), higher level education do have quotas that keep qualified applicants out and put less qualified applicants in where they are more likely to fail. This also keeps the less qualified applicants from attending lower level schools where they would have a greater chance of success.

Then you have the republicans that don't want to leave a child behind so they push them forward without the required educational base which will make it even harder for them to succeed.

It has taken 50 years to get us into the current mess and I believe it will take at least that long to rectify those mistakes.
 
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MG1968 said:
disingenuous, at best


conservatives, at least the ones I know and want to associate with, recognize that they don't have a right to not be offended.
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Agreed. People can call something offensive without saying that a person should not have a right to say it.

LG's meme is trying to equate being offended to not having a right to say it. Those are 2 different things.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
The elephant in the room is that a lot of times voting in lock step with the NAACP actual hurts the black family. The way the left has destroyed the minority family is very sad. Incentivizing single parent households and devaluing the father in the family unit is the core of this problem.
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Liberals did this? Why are the reasons that black fathers are disproportional absent?
 
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Before the Elvis vigil begins Tonight, local Activists plan to hold a protest march outside Graceland just like they did last year.

Those activists will be severely outnumbered. They better watch out.
 
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KentheOrange said:
But schools aren't. Politicians have totally screwed the education process. Democrats don't want charter schools in the poorer areas of towns for minorities (if they did we would have school voucher programs), higher level education do have quotas that keep qualified applicants out and put less qualified applicants in where they are more likely to fail. This also keeps the less qualified applicants from attending lower level schools where they would have a greater chance of success.

Then you have the republicans that don't want to leave a child behind so they push them forward without the required educational base which will make it even harder for them to succeed.

It has taken 50 years to get us into the current mess and I believe it will take at least that long to rectify those mistakes.
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The education issue is extremely complex. My daughter is and has always been educated in the public school system. However, I have been blessed with the ability to choose to live near the best schools. If something changed at my chosen school to lower the quality of her education, I would put her in a private school or move near a better school. Those trapped in poverty, which disproportionately effects blacks, do not have such luxury. All a school voucher system will do is allow the middle class to afford private schooling which will leave the public schools with less funding and less able to educate those most in need.

So yeah, my long winded way of agreeing that the education system is f#cked.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Before the Elvis vigil begins Tonight, local Activists plan to hold a protest march outside Graceland just like they did last year.

Those activists will be severely outnumbered. They better watch out.
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What are they protesting, gaudy sequined lined body suits?

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