Charlottesville white nationalists riots

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#826
BigOrangeTrain said:
This was a tragedy people. Stop arguing back and forth about liberals, conservatives, race or any kind of other bull****. I feel bad for those who got injured and even worse for the family of the person who died. How any of ypu cannot feel the exact same thing is beyond me.
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It truly was pathetic. I feel bad that our country is this divided, and it didn't start with trump winning. All these groups want nothing but chaos, and it's scary the amount of hate a person can have over race, religion, or political party.
 
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#827
luthervol said:
What is the political agenda that they are pushing?
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Theoretically, ANTIFAcist(anti-fascist).

What that means is that they decide who the fascists are , and try to disrupt their agenda. Right now, Trump is the fascist, and they are doing the Lord's(or Soros") work.
 
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NashVol11 said:
I don't know where or when Antifa has shown up, but I know for a fact that BLM has shown up all over the place without being violent. You're the one that lumped them together, which itself is ignorant.

If your conspiracy theory is true, and Antifa is that violent, then there should have been a very real possibility that the only deaths that occurred would be neo-Nazis killed by Antifa, in which case said "agenda" would be hurt rather than helped. How do bureaucrats predict which side ends up with deaths?
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I haven't lumped them together. They've done that all on their own. Every time the media covers an event that BLM is at, which turns violent, Antifa is there as well, knee-deep in the violence. BLM is being presented by the media as strolling hand in hand with Antifa. If Trump needs to decry the Neos, perhaps BLM needs to distance themselves from Antifa to not get painted with a violent brush.

You can't honestly think the only deaths would have been Neos. Good grief. That's the equivalent of thinking that taking a knife to a gun fight is a grand idea. Antifa is in forums around the net discussing the need for firearms to take to the events they crash. At least some of them are bright enough to realize the far right is already locked and loaded.

Bull crap political machinations are going to turn this country into a blood bath. It's not going to be left vs. right. It's going to be far left vs. far right vs. everyone else with a shred of common sense in the middle.
 
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#831
golfballs said:
I'm clearly not asking what the conservative answer is.

What is your answer?
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They have to be ostracized within their own communities by their neighbors, and the Republican party has to shame them at every opportunity that is appropriate. Bob Dole mentioned this during his convention speech in the nineties: basically said he doesn't want their votes, they are not welcome, and there are the exits so they can leave. Bush Sr. did the same I believe regarding David Duke.

We don't want to go down the road of violating their First Amendment rights, regardless how vile they are as people. That is a dangerous road to travel.

Before you come back with it, the same applies to Antifa. That is our mess to clean up with the same tactics.

Counter protest, peacefully, at their rallies.

When they threaten violence, treat them as the terrorists they are. The FBI exists for this reason.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Dude, he was hanging out with his fellow traitors at known alt-right rallies. There are photos.
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Y'all need to do some more reading.

Dude was part of some group called vanguard.
Their background is of socialist nature.

I'll see if I can find the info again.
 
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Obsessed said:
Vanguard America stands indomitable opposed to the tyranny of globalism and capitalism

They are in the national socialists group.
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This is a gross misunderstanding of their position and what is socialism. Marx supported free trade.

I'll quote from their website:

A nation based upon the values of self-reliance and fellowship must be created...The free market is not the enemy, but global finance is.
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Wow, it only took me 30 seconds of my time, some knowledge about socialism, and a little bit of intellectual honesty.
 
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n_huffhines said:
This is a gross misunderstanding of their position and what is socialism. Marx supported free trade.

I'll quote from their website:



Wow, it only took me 30 seconds of my time, some knowledge about socialism, and a little bit of intellectual honesty.
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You are slow. Only took me 15 seconds.

And I'm right...
 
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Obsessed said:
Did the black nationalists have a permit to protest and incite a riot?
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Black Nationalist my ass. That woman killed was not black.

When was that permit issued?

Don't you have some body count thread to tend to?
 
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Obsessed said:
You are slow. Only took me 15 seconds.

And I'm right...
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"I'm right"?

That's your argument? This is just sad, man. Show the integrity I know you have and just say "my bad, I was wrong". It's by far the best move you've got.
 
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