Trump Bans Transgenders in Military

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tumscalcium said:
I don't want them to die. What I'm saying is I view them as anyone else. What trans beliefs am I projecting on to you?
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My point was, I don't see why you are telling me you shouldn't have to pay for them, as that's a separate topic and I never said you should.

If you don't care about them because you see them like everyone else, I don't have a problem with that. If you say you don't care about them because the majority should never care about the minority, or care about anything other than the majority's own best interests, I would disagree with that. But that's not what you said, so on the point we were discussing, we agree.

If you want to argue about whether you should "bend over" for them, then find someone who says you should; that would give you more of the fight you're looking for.
 
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Apparently, very few of the military brass agree with this decision, which sounds like it has its origin in the demented brain of Steve Bannon, who then convinced his d--khead boss. A decision made for trucker-hat wearing base, not the military.
 
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armchair said:
Apparently, very few of the military brass agree with this decision, which sounds like it has its origin in the demented brain of Steve Bannon, who then convinced his d--khead boss. A decision made for trucker-hat wearing base, not the military.
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Reckon you might could post a link ?
 
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NashVol11 said:
"The majority shouldn't give a crap about the minority" is a very broad and dangerous statement. It's actually what James Madison specifically warned against
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And to turn it back political, hence why we have the electoral college. So mon rule can never be implemented. All too often you see liberals make your above point and then rail against the electoral college.
 
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armchair said:
Apparently, very few of the military brass agree with this decision, which sounds like it has its origin in the demented brain of Steve Bannon, who then convinced his d--khead boss. A decision made for trucker-hat wearing base, not the military.
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You are so full of shat.
 
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allvol123 said:
One example of a nutbag performing admirably does not suggest said group of nutbags are a positive for the entire military.
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Ok I was right. So you equate trans people to rapists. Got it. No need to respond. The world is better without you interacting with others.
 
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volfanhill said:
Ok I was right. So you equate trans people to rapists. Got it. No need to respond. The world is better without you interacting with others.
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No. I was showing that if a rapist performed admirably that is not a reason to condone rapists as a group that should be enlisted.

Go play where everyone tells you're right.
 
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armchair said:
Apparently, very few of the military brass agree with this decision, which sounds like it has its origin in the demented brain of Steve Bannon, who then convinced his d--khead boss. A decision made for trucker-hat wearing base, not the military.
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So far we've got you down for don't like people who own trucks, guns, Trucker hats, bird dogs, bass boats, cattle, farms, chew tobacco, drive 18 wheelers that deliver all your $**t and people who like to have sex with their wives. Also got you down for most of the posters on here don't have a formal education, are rednecks, stupid, not well read, racist, bigots, homophobic, xenophobic, marry their second cousins (or first if they're really HOT), drag their knuckles, mouth breathers (you are too if you have sleep apnea) and generally just unacceptable human beings in your eyes. So take your pretentious hipster skinny jeans cuffed at the bottom self, and I mean that in the best possible pejorative sense, and take a little time out. Your nerves are showing. Or come to one of my barn parties we have a couple of time a year... and learn something about people that like people for who they are, very independent, hard working, diverse (yeah, a few black people will be there among others that aren't evil whitey, but we call them friends...the gall!!!, and oh yeah....very educated (gasp! The horror! Educated people in the south that aren't liberal!) and are nowhere close to the ridiculous narrative you and your elitist, pretentious @$$hat friends try so hard to perpetuate. Give it a rest dude.
 
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allvol123 said:
No. I was showing that if a rapist performed admirably that is not a reason to condone rapists as a group that should be enlisted.

Go play where everyone tells you're right.
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I am often proved wrong sir. You are equating trans peoples request to be in service the same as if a group of convicted rapists got together and said hey we want serve too. If you can't grasp the difference I can't help you. I will give you a clue. One says I am who I am. The other says I will sexually assault you.
 
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Vol737 said:
So far we've got you down for don't like people who own trucks, guns, Trucker hats, bird dogs, bass boats, cattle, farms, chew tobacco, drive 18 wheelers that deliver all your $**t and people who like to have sex with their wives. Also got you down for most of the posters on here don't have a formal education, are rednecks, stupid, not well read, racist, bigots, homophobic, xenophobic, marry their second cousins (or first if they're really HOT), drag their knuckles, mouth breathers (you are too if you have sleep apnea) and generally just unacceptable human beings in your eyes. So take your pretentious hipster skinny jeans cuffed at the bottom self, and I mean that in the best possible pejorative sense, and take a little time out. Your nerves are showing. Or come to one of my barn parties we have a couple of time a year... and learn something about people that like people for who they are, very independent, hard working, diverse (yeah, a few black people will be there among others that aren't evil whitey, but we call them friends...the gall!!!, and oh yeah....very educated (gasp! The horror! Educated people in the south that aren't liberal!) and are nowhere close to the ridiculous narrative you and your elitist, pretentious @$$hat friends try so hard to perpetuate. Give it a rest dude.
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I wouldn't invite that goofy bas***d to your party for liability reasons.....my guess is less than a half hour after arriving he will have his ass kicked three maybe four times.
 
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armchair said:
The military is not enthusiastic about this decision--that is very clear. This decision was not pushed by the military; it was pushed by a tiny number of crazies and d--ks in the White House. Trump is a massive d--k--not to mention a known racist--and seems to quite enjoy being one. No wonder the rednecks like him.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/27/trump-transgender-military-ban-no-modification-241029
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The military is fine with it.


Oh yeah that red trucker hat wearing crowd you hate so much..psst..its the military.
 
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Vol737 said:
So far we've got you down for don't like people who own trucks, guns, Trucker hats, bird dogs, bass boats, cattle, farms, chew tobacco, drive 18 wheelers that deliver all your $**t and people who like to have sex with their wives. Also got you down for most of the posters on here don't have a formal education, are rednecks, stupid, not well read, racist, bigots, homophobic, xenophobic, marry their second cousins (or first if they're really HOT), drag their knuckles, mouth breathers (you are too if you have sleep apnea) and generally just unacceptable human beings in your eyes. So take your pretentious hipster skinny jeans cuffed at the bottom self, and I mean that in the best possible pejorative sense, and take a little time out. Your nerves are showing. Or come to one of my barn parties we have a couple of time a year... and learn something about people that like people for who they are, very independent, hard working, diverse (yeah, a few black people will be there among others that aren't evil whitey, but we call them friends...the gall!!!, and oh yeah....very educated (gasp! The horror! Educated people in the south that aren't liberal!) and are nowhere close to the ridiculous narrative you and your elitist, pretentious @$$hat friends try so hard to perpetuate. Give it a rest dude.
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He is a wannabe elitist. His message board diatribes are the musings of a disturbed and hateful person who has most likely been scorned by someone on the right. Add in the tossing around of the ambiguous " educated " nonsense and I'm thinking high school is probably the ceiling for his.

I know a girl just like him. Ranting and raving about Trump, if you eyeball a girl you're a misogynistic scum bag, if you have a V-8 you hate the earth, if you don't bang trannys you're transphobic and not an "ally" (almost her actual words), etc. She is almost 40, hairy armpits, lives in an attic in some shack in Louisville, KY, scavenges road kill to get bones to make jewelry to sell at flea markets (seriously), complaints about being poor, heaps praise on welfare else she would have never survived to her current age, hates that she is White, wears skinny jeans, thinks the military is made up of people like her (hahahaha), hangs out at coffee shops, cant understand why she can't find a guy and maintain a relationship, doesn't understand why her English Lit degree from U of Minnesota is landing her high paying jobs with benefits, and has drum circle parties where they drink Kombucha, and always vote democrat...

Armchair..is that you Sarah?
 
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I could support trans people in the military if they conformed to all standards of their born gender on duty and passed an extreme amount of mental health screening. They have suicide rates 10x the national average. The veteran suicide rate is double the nation average. Anyone who is being honest about this issue, has to see a serious problem with making transgendered people veterans.
 
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allvol123 said:
No. I was showing that if a rapist performed admirably that is not a reason to condone rapists as a group that should be enlisted.

Go play where everyone tells you're right.
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This is one of the stupidest arguments I've ever read in this forum, and that's saying A LOT.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I could support trans people in the military if they conformed to all standards of their born gender on duty and passed an extreme amount of mental health screening. They have suicide rates 10x the national average. The veteran suicide rate is double the nation average. Anyone who is being honest about this issue, has to see a serious problem with making transgendered people veterans.
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Indeed. Brains > Feelings
 
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