Article ..Vols may double up on QBs

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Here is my $.02. Our offense is based off the run/pass option. Most of us think QD has the nod going into the season unless things change quickly in practice. Will QD pull the ball and be able to run enough to keep the D from loading up on the running backs? From the look of it he is not nearly the runner that JG is but currently is a much more polished passer. If we run the 2 QB system will the D know that when JG comes in we are running and when QD is in we are passing or running some straight up run play? The 2 QB system will fail if we do this.
 
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HOOVER, Ala. -- Monday at Tennessee's annual voyage navigating SEC Media Days, Butch Jones hardest question was whether the 2016 season should be considered a disappointment.

Jones' answer generated plenty of buzz, but that wasn't the most interesting thing he said Monday in Alabama.

No, what was significant was Jones' answer to the idea of whether or not he would play two quarterbacks to start the season, with Tennessee's coach indicating plans of letting Jarrett Guarantano and Quinten Dormady sort out the seven-month long competition on the field of play early in the year. Tennessee opens the season in Atlanta versus Georgia Tech. Two weeks later, the Vols play at Florida, with the home opener against Indiana State in between.

"Well, I think playing time is earned, so if both players earn their right to play, we'll play both quarterbacks,” a comfortable and confident Jones said.

“I've been in systems where we've been able to do that, and really Quinten and Jarrett's skill-sets are very similar to each other. I think we have an offense that really can play to the skill-sets of the quarterback and all of the players around.

"Again, if both players earn the right to play, they'll both play. Again, it's how it's going to play itself out, because these two individuals are very, very capable and very good football players. It's a good problem to have."

Some would argue that it's a tough problem to handle, and that if you playing two quarterbacks you don't really have “the guy."

The reality is that playing two quarterbacks can be tricky in some cases. In 2005, everyone knows what happened to the Vols, as neither Rick Clausen or Erik Ainge established themselves in a season that ended with an ugly 5-7 mark. But in 200,4 letting Ainge, then a freshman, and fellow freshman Brent Schaeffer battle it out on the field worked just fine as the Vols beat Florida and Georgia on their way to a SEC Eastern Division title.

Jones said he likes his quarterback battling and believes that not only are the two signal callers making either other better but the competition itself is making his entire team better.

“I'm really, really excited about the quarterbacks that we have in our program, and I think the competition at that position is really elevated the level of play of everyone else around them.

“They’re competing everyday, but they’re also helping each other everyday,” he said.

“You’ve got Jarret, who’s a feisty competitor, young and ambitious. Then you have Quinten, who’s been in the program a little bit longer. A little more reserved. But both of them have done a great job this summer.

“I’m excited about all of our quarterbacks. The two are little bit different in terms of personalities, but they’re very, very competitive. Their skill-sets are very similar.”

What's also similar between Dormady and Gurantano is their lack of experience right now. Yes, he's played in 10 games in two years in mop up duty. But he doesn't have a start. He hasn't led the team to a win. He hasn't really played a “meaningful” snap.

Dormady may have left spring practice a little bit ahead of Guarantano, but by no means has he established himself as the guy just yet. Jones indicating plans of possibly utilizing a 2-quarterback system suggests as much. Allowing an open competition through training camp — with the public notion that both could emerge as contributors — might make it easier to manage the competition. It may also prevent any locker room separation.

To date, no one has established themselves and it might not happen this August.

If that's the case, that might not be a bad thing as long as Jones holds to his most compelling and honest answer on Monday in noting that is playing time is earned — whether that means one quarterback or two will see the field in Atlanta in 54 days.
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-- Hubbs
 
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Predicted platoon system following the O&W game. Yet to be determined which of the two will be the better game manager. Ball security is an issue with any team.
 
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"To date nobody has established themselves..."

What more does QD need to do? Guy went 10-10 in the spring game with a pair of TD's...
 
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IndianapolisVol said:
"To date nobody has established themselves..."

What more does QD need to do? Guy went 10-10 in the spring game with a pair of TD's...
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Do something in a real game against a legit team? Be better than Guarantano? JG was 4-5 and couldn't even run. They both looked good and neither has separated from the other. They shouldn't just hand him the job because he was here and sat on the side one more year than JG.
 
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k-town_king said:
Do something in a real game against a legit team? Be better than Guarantano? JG was 4-5 and couldn't even run. They both looked good and neither has separated from the other. They shouldn't just hand him the job because he was here and sat on the side one more year than JG.
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QD looked the better QB in all phases...and he is our best option starting out the year...

If he struggles, I have no beef with JG getting a shot...but, he's not the equivalent of QD at this point...not really close...
 
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I think the only way you see 2 QBs this year is if the first one totally chokes the first 5 games.

If the guy that opens the season does well and is not injured you won't see the other one except for mop up duties.
 
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BigOrangeD said:
OLine better be really good. They are going to need to run block well and protect very well.
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The OL will determine the starter. If they can consistently provide pass protection QD will start. If not then it will be JG, if not by coaches decision then when QD is injured. Sound familiar?
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
I think this is probably leaked propaganda. I think they are very concerned about a transfer once an announcement is made. They should just name someone and let the chips fall rather than risking another Hurd situation.
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How would a "Hurd situation" apply? He was a starter already. Whoever gets the starting nod isn't going to tank after getting the starting nod. If JG is the backup I strongly doubt he gives up trying to win the starting job. Dormady getting lead along only to be named backup, would be a little sorry on our staff since he only has two years of eligibility remaining and an unburnt redshirt to use in a transfer, but he's a calm cool type...totally different dynamic than Jalen. Somebody is going to be disappointed but there's no team fracturing risk with these two.
 
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I agree with others in that I have questioned Butch's use of certain players. For example, the limited use of AK or moving Byrd to WR. I also scratch my head at times in the way we use or do not use our playmakers, i.e. playcalling. It seems that we have the talent, yet the coaches are not putting our players in the best position to succeed. I think we will see change this year though. I think Butch has taken a step back and we will see the improvements through the new coaching staff. Hopefully those changes will take us to the next level and we can finally turn the corner.

As far as a 2 QB system, I hate it. I remember Clausen and Schaeffer. They both were solid, but it seemed neither one could get in a rhythm to take the starting position since they were sharing playing time. I would rather have 1 QB who knows he is the guy so he can settle into the position, learn it, and excel, not rotating 2 QBs so they disrupt one another's rhythm that results in 2 mediocre QBs since one does not get the full opportunity to flourish. However, I understand giving both a chance in a game and seeing who performs better. As we all know, performance in practice does not always translate to the field. Ultimately, I just want the best guy we have under center leading our team.
 
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Orange&White said:
I agree with others in that I have questioned Butch's use of certain players. For example, the limited use of AK or moving Byrd to WR. I also scratch my head at times in the way we use or do not use our playmakers, i.e. playcalling. It seems that we have the talent, yet the coaches are not putting our players in the best position to succeed. I think we will see change this year though. I think Butch has taken a step back and we will see the improvements through the new coaching staff. Hopefully those changes will take us to the next level and we can finally turn the corner.

As far as a 2 QB system, I hate it. I remember Clausen and Schaeffer. They both were solid, but it seemed neither one could get in a rhythm to take the starting position since they were sharing playing time. I would rather have 1 QB who knows he is the guy so he can settle into the position, learn it, and excel, not rotating 2 QBs so they disrupt one another's rhythm that results in 2 mediocre QBs since one does not get the full opportunity to flourish. However, I understand giving both a chance in a game and seeing who performs better. As we all know, performance in practice does not always translate to the field. Ultimately, I just want the best guy we have under center leading our team.
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You meant AINGE and Schaeffer, and Ainge nailed the starting spot by the end of the Florida game. Maybe you're referencing the musical QB chair act that Fulmer conducted the following season? Clausen and Ainge wasn't a true two-QB system. Fulmer just kept switching them out trying to fix a disastrous season...like he did in his final season with Crompton and Stephens.
 
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SayNoToJorts said:
A two QB system will not work with our fan base. One incomplete pass and the negas/ armchair coaches will be screaming for the other guy right up until that guy has a poor series. Wash rinse repeat until neither QB has any confidence
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I remember when I actually thought Stewart was better than Manning!
 
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Pacer92 said:
QD looked the better QB in all phases...and he is our best option starting out the year...

If he struggles, I have no beef with JG getting a shot...but, he's not the equivalent of QD at this point...not really close...
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And JG has looked better in a lot of practices. That isn't really a good point to try to prove one is better. JG looked about just as good in the scrimmage. I don't know how you think someone who is neck and neck with a player that is younger and less experienced is clearly the better option. We haven't seen either player face real competition. When the lights come on the better player will prove himself.

To say its not close is stupid. They are close or we wouldn't be having the discussion. You think Butch would play two qbs when he is on the hottest seat in the SEC if they weren't neck and neck? Why would he risk playing two qbs if one was sooo much better?:crazy:
 
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k-town_king said:
And JG has looked better in a lot of practices. That isn't really a good point to try to prove one is better. JG looked about just as good in the scrimmage. I don't know how you think someone who is neck and neck with a player that is younger and less experienced is clearly the better option. We haven't seen either player face real competition. When the lights come on the better player will prove himself.

To say its not close is stupid. They are close or we wouldn't be having the discussion. You think Butch would play two qbs when he is on the hottest seat in the SEC if they weren't neck and neck? Why would he risk playing two qbs if one was sooo much better?:crazy:
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Missed your fictional practice reports...course there haven't been any PRACTICES. :w00t: All your made up "experts" ready for Fall? :lol:
 
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SayNoToJorts said:
A two QB system will not work with our fan base. One incomplete pass and the negas/ armchair coaches will be screaming for the other guy right up until that guy has a poor series. Wash rinse repeat until neither QB has any confidence
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I bet CBJ and the staff do not even consider what the fan base thinks when they make player decisions.
 
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There's too much stigma on the one qb bs. If you treat them like football players and everyone understands you're just ballin then it won't matter.
 
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Sadly to say, CBJ does not know how to change his offense that he has been running since high school. That being the case, he has NO CLUE how to win with Dormady! He may start Dormady, but watch what happens with our clueless coach!
 
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