Anti-Trump Hysteria and Silliness

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armchair said:
You don't think that Obama was a mature, well-spoken, reasonable individual? He was the very exemplar of those qualities. So your comment is silly. Nobody expects presidents to be "noble." They are supposed to be mature, respectful, intelligent, reasonable, well-spoken. Trump has NONE of those qualities. He's not a "spoiled brat"--that is far too kind. He's more like a sociopath.

The latest from our distinguished commander in chief:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...p-morning-joe-mika-brzezinski-joe-scarborough

The media criticize Trump because he's an idiot who does things like this--every day--not to mention his constant, sinister lying, which seems not to bother the southerners. We have a president who lied blatantly about illegal voting immediately after the election--and did so for days, KNOWING what he was saying was bull$****. Who does that, except some mentally ill person whose ego can't deal with the fact that he lost the popular vote? When you lie about illegal voting you are undercutting the integrity of our election system, which is an important pillar of our democracy. And yet a PRESIDENT does this? The man is a disgrace to the presidency, and dangerous.

Trump spends half his day lying and doing stupid things--there are a thousand examples, but how about appointing his family's party planner as head of Housing and Urban Development's largest regional division--a party planner with zero housing experience who also lied on her CV, claiming fraudulently that she'd earned a law degree---and then spends the other half tweeting insults at the various people who call attention to his lies and stupidity. WHAT A MAN!
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I love how conservative southerners parrot right-wing BS about the EPA. Republicans are industry/big business toadies--always have been. They don't like spending money on environmental regulations. I'm not really sure why as these are huge companies, mostly. I guess they affect the stock price, which affects the CEO's/executives greedy executive compensation. In any case, we get the same BS from conservatives about the EPA all the time. It's nonsense. Even with the regs with half, companies are still dumping toxins like coal ash in rivers and lakes. The city water quality in many US cities is bad--and yet we have to listen to industry toadies like Pruitt--a disgrace--try to tell us that environmental regulations are terrible and hurting jobs, etc. It's all NONSENSE, much like the nonsense we hear about the minimum--as if big retailers are really going to suffer if they pay employees another $1 or $2 an hour. Most of what we hear from the GOP is stupid nonsense aimed to protect big business--like how we MUST give big tax breaks to the wealthy so that they will stimulate the economy and salary and wage raises will "trickle-down" to the masses. Uh, no.
 
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armchair said:
You don't think that Obama was a mature, well-spoken, reasonable individual? He was the very exemplar of those qualities. So your comment is silly. Nobody expects presidents to be "noble."
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I liked Obama as a family man. No scandals. Looks like he has a great relationship with Michelle and his kids. Of course, we have to admit it is politics and image consultants are everywhere. But generally, Obama strikes me as a relatively humble, likeable fellow.

...especially considering he was born in Kenya, is Muslim, and had a gay lover as personal assistant.
 
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McDad said:
This rules out 99% of government supported employees and 100% of politicians.

You defined a criteria which cannot be met under our SOP.
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I disagree with the 99% and 100% numbers.

You could insert the word "semi" before "reasonable" and "appropriate priorities" and still eliminate Trump.

Your distrust of government mirrors my distrust of unregulated capitalism.
 
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McDad said:
I liked Obama as a family man. No scandals. Looks like he has a great relationship with Michelle and his kids. Of course, we have to admit it is politics and image consultants are everywhere. But generally, Obama strikes me as a relatively humble, likeable fellow.
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Humble?
 
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Grand Vol said:
For him, it is. Any time he puts out a Tweet against someone and the media reacts, it's just getting him more attention.

Your child ever throw a temper tantrum in the house? What's best? To react or ignore and let them get it out of their system?
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The thing is, I don't really care how the media reacts or what he believes. It's like two retards fighting on who is the most retarded. He's a national embarrassment who thinks that the number of re-tweets is more important than his ability to lead and pass legislation.

More astonishing is that there are some people who continue to carry his water and defend his idiocy. Although I don't know why that surprises me, he was a classless lunatic in the primary and general election - why would he become presidential now?
 
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luthervol said:
I disagree with the 99% and 100% numbers.

You could insert the word "semi" before "reasonable" and "appropriate priorities" and still eliminate Trump.

Your distrust of government mirrors my distrust of unregulated capitalism.
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How can we possibly label any politician as "reasonable" or "appropriately prioritized" when our debt is 19 trillion dollars

Isnt the action to amass that burden unreasonable and inappropriate by definition?
 
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armchair said:
to your intelligent responses. Ha! You guys are too shallow to engage. Must be the county high school education.
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I wanted to quote this for posterity. It isn't often you don't have a three page response.

But certainly not lacking in your condescension skills.
 
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lawgator1 said:
First, that is never going to happen.

Second, he's the President. The job carries with it a certain prestige and nobility, and how one carries oneself in that post is quite meaningful.

I just don't understand what his thought process can possibly be on these. It's just absolutely baffling.
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Tell you what, LG. Since you've been so reasonable lately (and by reasonable, I mean not the most rabid out of control poster in recent weeks) I'll expand on the thoughts of "dignity" and how Presidents carry themselves going back in history. My perceptions and opinions, of course...

Trump - I perceive as someone who thrives on attention and throws the aforementioned temper tantrums which generate said attention. But far more intelligent than you give him credit for. Dignified? lol

Obama - I perceived as a narcissistic know it all. But also far more intelligent than the right gave him credit for. Dignified? No. Looked far to eager to take a step down from his rightful place as leader of the free world.

Bush 43 - Far more intelligent than you gave him credit for, but I think allowed others to run more freely in his Administration that he should have. Dignified? No, not really. But likable.

Clinton - A snake, but a snake you respected and could deal with. And a snake you could forgive. Dignified? No.

Bush 41 - Another snake, but one that really wasn't as likable as Clinton.

Reagan - Probably the last "noble" President we had. Reagan presented an air of confidence as well as bringing dignity in the office.

Carter - I would say he was dignified, but simply overwhelmed by the office. But throughout, he managed to maintain his composure.

Ford - Not around long enough to really say...

Nixon - A snake. And a snake you didn't trust.

Johnson - See Nixon.

Kennedy - Brought a different approach to the Oval Office especially being so young. Dignified? Yeah, I'd say so.

Eisenhower - Brought a dignified air to the office, but I believe mainly because of his military background. There's not many retired Generals/Admirals (I'm sure you'll name a couple) that don't have an air of dignity about them.
 
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McDad said:
I liked Obama as a family man. No scandals. Looks like he has a great relationship with Michelle and his kids. Of course, we have to admit it is politics and image consultants are everywhere. But generally, Obama strikes me as a relatively humble, likeable fellow.
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Humble? No. Can't agree.

Dedicated family man, sure, I'll go with that. Likable? Yeah, even though you disagree with him, he's the kind of guy you could share a beer with and talk over sports.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Tell you what, LG. Since you've been so reasonable lately (and by reasonable, I mean not the most rabid out of control poster in recent weeks) I'll expand on the thoughts of "dignity" and how Presidents carry themselves going back in history. My perceptions and opinions, of course...

Trump - I perceive as someone who thrives on attention and throws the aforementioned temper tantrums which generate said attention. But far more intelligent than you give him credit for. Dignified? lol

Obama - I perceived as a narcissistic know it all. But also far more intelligent than the right gave him credit for. Dignified? No. Looked far to eager to take a step down from his rightful place as leader of the free world.

Bush 43 - Far more intelligent than you gave him credit for, but I think allowed others to run more freely in his Administration that he should have. Dignified? No, not really. But likable.

Clinton - A snake, but a snake you respected and could deal with. And a snake you could forgive. Dignified? No.

Bush 41 - Another snake, but one that really wasn't as likable as Clinton.

Reagan - Probably the last "noble" President we had. Reagan presented an air of confidence as well as bringing dignity in the office.

Carter - I would say he was dignified, but simply overwhelmed by the office. But throughout, he managed to maintain his composure.

Ford - Not around long enough to really say...

Nixon - A snake. And a snake you didn't trust.

Johnson - See Nixon.

Kennedy - Brought a different approach to the Oval Office especially being so young. Dignified? Yeah, I'd say so.

Eisenhower - Brought a dignified air to the office, but I believe mainly because of his military background. There's not many retired Generals/Admirals (I'm sure you'll name a couple) that don't have an air of dignity about them.
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I think Obama was very smart, some on my side of the aisle just think he was naive and done things without knowing the consequences I think he knew full well the consequences and was ok with them. I always believed he thought we were way too big and powerful and he wanted to bring us down a few notches.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Humble? No. Can't agree.

Dedicated family man, sure, I'll go with that. Likable? Yeah, even though you disagree with him, he's the kind of guy you could share a beer with and talk over sports.
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R E L A T I V E L Y humble. Not humble compared to normies but humble compared to other politicians.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Tell you what, LG. Since you've been so reasonable lately (and by reasonable, I mean not the most rabid out of control poster in recent weeks) I'll expand on the thoughts of "dignity" and how Presidents carry themselves going back in history. My perceptions and opinions, of course...

Trump - I perceive as someone who thrives on attention and throws the aforementioned temper tantrums which generate said attention. But far more intelligent than you give him credit for. Dignified? lol

Obama - I perceived as a narcissistic know it all. But also far more intelligent than the right gave him credit for. Dignified? No. Looked far to eager to take a step down from his rightful place as leader of the free world.

Bush 43 - Far more intelligent than you gave him credit for, but I think allowed others to run more freely in his Administration that he should have. Dignified? No, not really. But likable.

Clinton - A snake, but a snake you respected and could deal with. And a snake you could forgive. Dignified? No.

Bush 41 - Another snake, but one that really wasn't as likable as Clinton.

Reagan - Probably the last "noble" President we had. Reagan presented an air of confidence as well as bringing dignity in the office.

Carter - I would say he was dignified, but simply overwhelmed by the office. But throughout, he managed to maintain his composure.

Ford - Not around long enough to really say...

Nixon - A snake. And a snake you didn't trust.

Johnson - See Nixon.

Kennedy - Brought a different approach to the Oval Office especially being so young. Dignified? Yeah, I'd say so.

Eisenhower - Brought a dignified air to the office, but I believe mainly because of his military background. There's not many retired Generals/Admirals (I'm sure you'll name a couple) that don't have an air of dignity about them.
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Spot on! I think all 2 term presidents are ready to get the hell out of the White House when it's their time. No way in hell I would want to deal with that on a daily basis.

Look at me agreeing with you 2 days in a row...I need a Dr.'s appt
 
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Grand Vol said:
Humble? No. Can't agree.

Dedicated family man, sure, I'll go with that. Likable? Yeah, even though you disagree with him, he's the kind of guy you could share a beer with and talk over sports.
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Talk sports? Ha. Remember when he congratulated the "Miami Heats" during a campaign fundraiser speech in Florida?
 
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Septic said:
Elected officials do not represent their constituents, this should be obvious as evidenced by the whole of political history - they are beholden only to their own interest.

Telling us they represent us is different from actually doing so.
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So out of the goodness of their hearts and against their corporate masters the elected officials passed environmental regulations?
 
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