CBS-Bold prediction -- CBJ out before november

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#27
I have a hard time seeing an AD who has been on the job for less than 8 months making a move to fire the HC of the flagship athletic program midseason unless he has no choice. And by no choice, I mean we start off 2-5 or worse, or Butch gets nailed by the NCAA or other scandal that cannot allow the university to continue employing him.

How bad does it look to any potential replacement coaches that the new AD didn't even give his HC a full season to audition for the job? And I get that he's had 4 years previously, but none have come under Currie's watch. If I'm a coach, that is not the quick trigger environment I'm falling all over myself to jump into.
 
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Dormady....they don't know just yet what we know....but they will soon enough. Oh yes, they will know.
 
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That's the job of a sports writer, to give their opinion. Just because we may not agree with them doesn't make them wrong and of course it doesn't make them right either

goodness please don't try to be sensible, just will not work on VOLNATION
 
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If you can't see the difference between a Herbstreit "bold prediction" (to use just one reasonable example) and this guy's outrageous guesses, then I can't help you.

Sure, crazy stuff happens. Good analysts find the nuggets of knowledge that allow them a reasonable chance at predicting a few of those crazy things. This guy doesn't have that feel at all. And, by his own admission, he's apparently not very good at it.


p.s. Since you seem to think this writer might actually not be full of bull, let's do this: I'm gonna make a "bold prediction" right now that this guy gets at least four of these five predictions dead wrong. I would say all five, but there's a lot of fudge-room in his #3 about the Bama freshman (like, how does he define "steady part"?). If he gets any of the other four predictions right, I'll learn the Gator fight song (assuming there is one) and type all the lyrics into a post here on VolNation. If he gets all four of them wrong, you get to hand-type all the lyrics to Rocky Top into a post for us here. Deal?
While I agree he will probably miss on most of these. Gator is partially right. If you don't know who Tua or Akers are, you aren't following football very closely.
 
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I have a hard time seeing an AD who has been on the job for less than 8 months making a move to fire the HC of the flagship athletic program midseason unless he has no choice. And by no choice, I mean we start off 2-5 or worse, or Butch gets nailed by the NCAA or other scandal that cannot allow the university to continue employing him.

How bad does it look to any potential replacement coaches that the new AD didn't even give his HC a full season to audition for the job? And I get that he's had 4 years previously, but none have come under Currie's watch. If I'm a coach, that is not the quick trigger environment I'm falling all over myself to jump into.

You make some very valid points but in all honesty what difference does it make whose watch it came under? Is Currie discussing game plans with Butch?
 
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Witch Doctor say with these uneducated sports opinions, Witch Doctor bet Ben dont make it at CBS until Aug. lol but then there is some Tenn. "fans" that like to commiserate these type of stories. Witch Doctor say Bones predict another "Butch Jones Poll " coming soon..lol

BNL

You again Which Doctor. :shakehead:
 
#33
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these "experts' don't make bolder predictions than those of us on VN...compared to us they're novices...:):)

GO BIG ORANGE!
 
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I'm honestly in awe that Ole Miss hasn't yet found it prudent to part ways with Freeze

Would you fire yourself from a mid to upper 6 figure a year job and not have any chance to get a similar job in the future?

If you are the Ole Miss AD and President and you fire Freeze, you are admitting guilt/lack of institutional control. That means they would be the next ones to get fired. The NCAA isn't going to go easy on Ole Miss so you might as well go down swinging.
 
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Stupid summer story---and all of these threads about Jones's job security have gotten boring and stupid.
 
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You make some very valid points but in all honesty what difference does it make whose watch it came under? Is Currie discussing game plans with Butch?

Considering I'm still not sure what the UT Administration expects of Butch, I think it could make a huge difference.
 
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Where did it predict Butch Jones, or anyone else would fired by November?

He predicted 5 coaches would be fired, then listed 6 that are currently on the hot seat. We all know those are, and others he did not bother to mention. He didn't predict any specific coach would be in the 5. What is so outrageous about that?

Seems like some of the posters here are making this news, not the writer of the article.
 
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I'm honestly in awe that Ole Miss hasn't yet found it prudent to part ways with Freeze

Because he's a great coach. They cheated, but were still out-talented by some of the teams they beat.

Unless they think the NCAA is about to give Freeze a show cause, they'll do everything they can to keep him.
 
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Not too far of a stretch prediction. If we somehow lose to GT, Fl and UGA, and crap the bed VS Bama, the UK game could be do or die for CBJ. Lose that and the new AD could pull the plug.

For the record, I think we win those games, but this is the SEC...
 
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I'm honestly in awe that Ole Miss hasn't yet found it prudent to part ways with Freeze

LOL, have you ANY recall of an Ole Miss coach or for that matter current SEC coaches that not only could compete with Bama but beat them multiple times during the last couple of decades? Malzahn, Fulmer, Miles, and Freeze are the only ones come to my mind quickly.
 
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Where did it predict Butch Jones, or anyone else would fired by November?

He predicted 5 coaches would be fired, then listed 6 that are currently on the hot seat. We all know those are, and others he did not bother to mention. He didn't predict any specific coach would be in the 5. What is so outrageous about that?

Seems like some of the posters here are making this news, not the writer of the article.

The very first sentence.
 
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Would you fire yourself from a mid to upper 6 figure a year job and not have any chance to get a similar job in the future?

If you are the Ole Miss AD and President and you fire Freeze, you are admitting guilt/lack of institutional control. That means they would be the next ones to get fired. The NCAA isn't going to go easy on Ole Miss so you might as well go down swinging.
Yep. Freeze losing his job is mostly just a matter of when the NCAA doles out their punishment at this point. Until then, it's the status quo.


Unless they bungle the investigation like they did with Miami of course lol
 
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I don't even see this guy's prediction as particularly bold.

The opener against Tech is a game that Tennessee should win but is by no means a sure thing. If we drop that one and then lose to either/both Florida or Georgia, which aren't games Tennessee necessarily should win, then I think we all know that Butch's seat would be thermonuclear. If we are 2-3 going into the bye, would they fire him? I don't think it is totally out of the realm of possibility.

I actually think we can lose to Tech, Florida, Georgia, Alabama, and LSU and he keeps his job, but only because of the buyout. Butch's floor is 6-6. If he does any better than that, I think he stays.
 
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#46
Comeback post of the year IMO! I especially appreciate that last parry. :hi:

So, you have spoken to them too, huh?

When I saw the location, I just felt it was time to speak for the majority of the world. Their government allows that crap to happen or it would not stand. As far as I am concerned, and until they put a stop to it, India can go to Hell.
 
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I'm sure Currie started getting backchannel inquiries on Day 1. Not people offering their services, but people saying they have a client who would be interested in coming here if an opening occurs.

I agree with the general proposition that it would take a calamity to force a mid-season firing, mainly because it will save the AD $2.5 million on the buyout to do it after the season ends.
 
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I hate the month of June. That is when we see we have way too many sports journalists, and we get crap articles like this. Bold prediction? We read this crap every year. At least these twerps are consistent.

Since you are in India, do something useful for a change. Find one of those computer virus scam call centers that is pissing everyone off, and beat the Hell outta the first employee you run into. You got too much time on your hands.

Best suggestion of the year. Pr+@Ks supposedly representing a company like Dell selling malware and scamming you on the side. I have a friend who was new to computers that got the shaft right up the wazoo.
 
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The very first sentence.

"At least five Power Five coaches will not make it to November: That's a lot of fives. We are in a day and age now in college football where schools refuse to wait before making a coaching change -- or, at the very least, get the process started. Les Miles was infamously fired by LSU last September after losing to Auburn when he probably should have been released after the end of the 2015 season. October is the new December and there are a number of coaches on the hot seat entering this season...."

Which coach is he predicting to be fired?
 
#50
#50
It's almost to the point here I hope Butch gets fired just to get some of the posters here to STFU. Careful what you wish for.
 
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