Looks like Currie made his first move

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volfan102455 said:
A comparison - the last 3 years tennis has been 13-14, 12-17 and 14-13. Over the last two years they have won 3 out of 24 conference games.

Warlick has not had a losing season. Her teams have finished 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 1st, 7th and 6th in the SEC. She had several big wins this year (SC, Miss ST, Notre Dame) that show she may have the team heading back up. Sorry but if you let her go - you let almost all coaches go.

I don't follow tennis so I don't know how good or bad of a coach he is - but just by records between these two Warlick would not be the one to fire.
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You have no idea what you're talking about, sorry. UT Tennis doesn't exactly have the gold-plated pedigree of our women's basketball program. It is not Stanford or Georgia--two powerhouse tennis programs. The team had a couple of bad years--but the program overall as been pretty solid under Winterbotham. He can take decent but not great talent and be competitive most years--and most years he has good talent. Warlick takes excellent talent and underachieves every year. You mention Warlick's good wins. Are you joking? We had more talent than practically every team in the country--far more than Miss. State for example. We had the two most athletic wingers in the country, the No. 1 prospect in Russell--and returning guards who were all top national prospects. And yet we lost 13 games--lost to a bunch of mediocrities-- and lost in the 2nd round of the NCAA. She's lost 26--26--games in the last two years. Warlick has been over her head from day one. She's not very smart and a terrible coach. Listen to her postgame pressers--she's a joke: she rambles, scratches her head and never makes an astute comment. She is always talking about how the players' effort is lacking. There is no bigger red flag than a coach who can't motivate his or her team regularly. Winterbotham was in the national championship match six years ago. Warlick in six years hasn't smelled the Final Four. We could be light years better at women's basketball with an accomplished coach. We will not be light years better in men's tennis with a new coach. Also, our volleyball program has been bad for years. There's another coach who deserved the guillotine before Winterbotham. This move shows the Currie himself isn't smart enough to put programs and coaches in context.
 
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Here is more on Winterbotham's record, from the Daily Beacon. It's an absolutely stupid, crazy move:

"Winterbotham’s compiled a 217-104 overall record as head coach, including SEC regular-season championships in 2010 and 2011 and an SEC Tournament title in 2010. Winterbotham had six teams advance to the Round of 16 or further in the NCAA Tournament.

Winterbotham coached an NCAA singles or doubles finalist every year between 2008-2011, including Hunter Reeves and Mikelis Libietis, who won the NCAA Men’s Doubles Championship in 2014. Libietis was awarded SEC Player of the Year in 2013, as was John-Patrick Smith in 2010 and 2011.

Winterbotham saw six players reach the top 200 in the ATP World Tour Rankings during his Tennessee career, and was himself named SEC Coach of the Year twice."

We won the national title in doubles in 2014, had SEC player of the year in 2013. Six teams to the sweet 16 or better. And THIS is the first person you sack? Please. Stupid.
 
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Tennis won 3 SEC titles in 11 years, a "competitive" program, 6 NCAA round of 16 appearances, yet we are complaining that Currie fired him. It seems like that's exactly the mediocrity we do not want at Tennessee. We cannot have it both ways.

It is a safe move since it's a low revenue sport. I agree this was not a move I was expecting, or one I think was needed. Especially with baseball, volleyball, women's basketball, and others that are more concerning. I believe this is one of Currie's first attempts to gain the support of the fan base and show us that we can have faith in him to hold Tennessee to higher standards and expectations. It'll be interesting to see what he does going forward with some of the bigger, revenue producing sports.
 
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armchair said:
You have no idea what you're talking about, sorry. UT Tennis doesn't exactly have the gold-plated pedigree of our women's basketball program. It is not Stanford or Georgia--two powerhouse tennis programs. The team had a couple of bad years--but the program overall as been pretty solid under Winterbotham. He can take decent but not great talent and be competitive most years--and most years he has good talent. Warlick takes excellent talent and underachieves every year. You mention Warlick's good wins. Are you joking? We had more talent than practically every team in the country--far more than Miss. State for example. We had the two most athletic wingers in the country, the No. 1 prospect in Russell--and returning guards who were all top national prospects. And yet we lost 13 games--lost to a bunch of mediocrities-- and lost in the 2nd round of the NCAA. She's lost 26--26--games in the last two years. Warlick has been over her head from day one. She's not very smart and a terrible coach. Listen to her postgame pressers--she's a joke: she rambles, scratches her head and never makes an astute comment. She is always talking about how the players' effort is lacking. There is no bigger red flag than a coach who can't motivate his or her team regularly. Winterbotham was in the national championship match six years ago. Warlick in six years hasn't smelled the Final Four. We could be light years better at women's basketball with an accomplished coach. We will not be light years better in men's tennis with a new coach. Also, our volleyball program has been bad for years. There's another coach who deserved the guillotine before Winterbotham. This move shows the Currie himself isn't smart enough to put programs and coaches in context.
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Armchair you don't even know why he was let go. I read the release and there is no reason for the parting of ways given. But you being a part of the high standards crowd certainly can't be satisfied with the results over the past three years. If that is even the reason he was let go.
 
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gc49ervol said:
Armchair you don't even know why he was let go. I read the release and there is no reason for the parting of ways given. But you being a part of the high standards crowd certainly can't be satisfied with the results over the past three years. If that is even the reason he was let go.
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Exactly. Could have been fired for any number of undisclosed reasons.
 
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When you start looking at our athletics overall, it's quite sad compared to the rest of the SEC. I was browsing the NCAA website and looking at rankings. Other schools like Alabama, Florida, LSU, Georgia, etc have multiple programs ranked in the top 10 across multiple sports. Tennessee is largely nonexistent. We have softball and a few top 25 rankings. I know these are sports with less revenue and not as much exposure, but why can we not strive for higher standards in those programs too? We have great facilities, an amazing fan base, and the resources to succeed in every sport. Other SEC programs have football and basketball, plus they exceed in these other sports too. It's time we at Tennessee start holding ourselves to higher standards and expectations throughout our athletic programs.
 
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Reminds me of the NCAA given Tyndall a year show cause while Roy Williams had fake college that's how they "show" their muscle. Pick on the insignificant.
 
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Freak said:
We're still in the middle of baseball season.
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Yep, in the middle of yet another disastrous season. I had great hopes for Serrano at first, but unfortunately, he's just Raleigh 2.0. Maybe worse.
 
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Well, I think Currie means business. The last couple of years have been subpar in Tennis despite an overall winning record. Let us hope the demands of excellence are across the whole board. This actually gives me hope that Currie might be the guy.
 
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armchair said:
Here is more on Winterbotham's record, from the Daily Beacon. It's an absolutely stupid, crazy move:

"Winterbotham’s compiled a 217-104 overall record as head coach, including SEC regular-season championships in 2010 and 2011 and an SEC Tournament title in 2010. Winterbotham had six teams advance to the Round of 16 or further in the NCAA Tournament.

Winterbotham coached an NCAA singles or doubles finalist every year between 2008-2011, including Hunter Reeves and Mikelis Libietis, who won the NCAA Men’s Doubles Championship in 2014. Libietis was awarded SEC Player of the Year in 2013, as was John-Patrick Smith in 2010 and 2011.

Winterbotham saw six players reach the top 200 in the ATP World Tour Rankings during his Tennessee career, and was himself named SEC Coach of the Year twice."

We won the national title in doubles in 2014, had SEC player of the year in 2013. Six teams to the sweet 16 or better. And THIS is the first person you sack? Please. Stupid.
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So I assume you believe Fulmer should still be coach of the football team then because he won a NC?

You are using different criteria for different coaches. What is is? Overall record? Placement in the conference? You can't compare the level of success for these two coaches and fire Warlick and keep the Tennis coach.

By your criteria you would keep a coach until they hit rock bottom just because they had previous success to a level of your liking. Or you keep a coach just because that coach has coached one individual that has done really well even though the team as a whole sucks wind.
 
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It'll be interesting to see who he hires as a replacement.
 
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BeecherVol said:
Not had a losing season?
She's a decent coach at best. She was never gonna be Pat, but she's far from it, not in the ballpark.
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No one will ever be Pat, and comparing her to the greatest basketball coach of our time is pointless and unfair.
 
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I'll be very surprised if the job doesn't go to assistant coach Chris Woodruff. He's been the top assistant here for a long time--12 or more years--and he is a former UT singles national champion--the only one we've had. By all accounts he's a good coach, and there is no reason to think he can't do a good job. Like most of these jobs, and it is particularly true with tennis, success hinges on recruiting. I think he'll get the position.
 
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I would love to see Holly bring back Mickie DeMoss, though.
 
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