Dobbs is already moving up the Depth Chart

#126
#126
Dobbs had games where he was absolutely brilliant. He also had games in which he just didn't seem to show up. Perhaps his field of study had something to do with that? I would think with a major like that it would have. He may show more consistency due to putting all of his study and focus on the game. I hope so.
 
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#127
For all of the people hating, I think you all will be pleasantly surprised. Dobbs not only doesn't have his incredibly tough major to deal with, but he'll have a QB coach as well in the NFL. He never had a qb coach at UT when every other position on the field for us had one. He was raved about from professional qb coaches during the combine, so I'll definitely take that over hater hunches.
 
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checkerboards09 said:
He never had a qb coach at UT when every other position on the field for us had one.
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I know this keeps getting mentioned, but it strikes me as a bit inaccurate. DeBord was listed as QBs coach, as was Bajakian before him. This a common thing for offensive coordinators. Bama's OC is always the QB coach. Same goes for Ohio State, Oklahoma, and Penn State. I'm sure there are others.

If the implication is that DeBord and Bajakian didn't actually perform the duties of a QB coach, then I guess I understand. But if the point is that Dobbs didn't have a QB coach who had no other duties, then I fail to see how that's significant.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
You're confused. I said that his MOCK DRAFTS and draft projections around the week of the draft are worth listening to because at that time he is regurgitating useful information from his sources in the NFL. That was in response to KBVol when he was posting all these links to draft sites that had Dobbs going in the 6th-7th round in January before the senior bowl. I said those draft projections were useless. I said that draft projections around the week of the draft are the only ones worth paying attention to.

I never said McShay doesn't evaluate players himself. He says he does that all the time. I just said his player evaluations were useless since he doesn't know what he is talking about most of the time. However, I gave McShay some credit this year cause his evaluation of Dobbs was better than most of his peers so he earned a little respect from me. He was one of the few people who had Dobbs rated as a 2nd round prospect. Most others had him in the 3rd round or later.

Still most of McShay's players rankings for the draft were terrible. As evidenced by the fact he had future bust Jonathan Allen rated as the #3 overall player in the draft.
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You know what other draft assessments were useless? McShay's "assessment" that Dobbs had a chance to sneak into the first round and the "assessment" that you continually peddled that said Josh would go 38th to the Chargers.

The "assessment" that was spot on was the one that said he would go no sooner than the 4th round, which was 100% correct.
 
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Burger said:
Are you kidding me? You basically said I don't watch football. I've been watching football a lot longer than you have, and I have actually played organized football. I'll put this in bullet points for you.

- Jalen Hurts knows how to drop off to the back
- Luke Del Rio knows how to drop off to the back
- Jacob Eason knows how to drop off to the back

You see the trend here?

It's not that other QBs don't miss open receivers; it's that a NFL potential QB shouldn't be throwing work bruisers 5 yards in front of the WR like we've seen Josh do.

You know why Chad Kelly beat Alabama and Josh Dobbs didn't? Chad Kelly is a way better passer. His instincts as a QB to get rid of the ball, and he was accurate and had enough power to get it to his WRs.

And you're finally getting the fact that most college QBs have accuracy issues, which is why hardly any are panning out.
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This. Plus the countless frustrating times of throwing a 3 yard route when it's 3 and 5, leading to a punt.
 
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#133
Just saw Dobbs ask skittles if they could make him white and orange skittles on twitter. They loved the idea. 👍🏻 VFL
 
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Dr. Manhattan said:
This. Plus the countless frustrating times of throwing a 3 yard route when it's 3 and 5, leading to a punt.
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That was partially to the conservative play calling. The basis of our west coast passing game is that we can take a three yard pass and turn it into 5 or more. If the timing or the pass is off, then there is a massive problem, and the offense doesn't click.

The difference between Dormady and Dobbs is Dormady will hit his spots. Dobbs wasn't too good at hitting his spots, hence why that 3rd and 5 pass only netted three yards.
 
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bamawriter said:
I know this keeps getting mentioned, but it strikes me as a bit inaccurate. DeBord was listed as QBs coach, as was Bajakian before him. This a common thing for offensive coordinators. Bama's OC is always the QB coach. Same goes for Ohio State, Oklahoma, and Penn State. I'm sure there are others.

If the implication is that DeBord and Bajakian didn't actually perform the duties of a QB coach, then I guess I understand. But if the point is that Dobbs didn't have a QB coach who had no other duties, then I fail to see how that's significant.
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Bajakian was just OC. DeBord worked with the qb's but never had any experience coaching qb's until Butch put him in charge of the offense when he arrived. As I mentioned in my previous post, I'll trust NFL QB coaches words.
 
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checkerboards09 said:
Bajakian was just OC. DeBord worked with the qb's but never had any experience coaching qb's until Butch put him in charge of the offense when he arrived. As I mentioned in my previous post, I'll trust NFL QB coaches words.
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Bajakian is a QB coach, and I would say a pretty good one. Debord had a short slint of coaching QBs, but he's a Oline/TE guy.
 
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Jmyers1033 said:
Yeah he will get some pre season and at the end of the year when we clinch a playoff spot again. Im more excited to see what Cam can do this year. That was one of the biggest weak spots last year IMO was the defensive back field.
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Not necessarily a Steelers fan but you are spot on about their secondary. They need immediate help there.
 
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checkerboards09 said:
For all of the people hating, I think you all will be pleasantly surprised. Dobbs not only doesn't have his incredibly tough major to deal with, but he'll have a QB coach as well in the NFL. He never had a qb coach at UT when every other position on the field for us had one. He was raved about from professional qb coaches during the combine, so I'll definitely take that over hater hunches.
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No one is hating on Dobbs. That's pure silliness. Just becauses someone is stating a fact about his accuracy issues or the FACT he has his worked cut out for him isn't hating on him.

Grow up
 
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114VOL said:
No one is hating on Dobbs. That's pure silliness. Just becauses someone is stating a fact about his accuracy issues or the FACT he has his worked cut out for him isn't hating on him.

Grow up
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Grow up? Lol. I think you're throwing that around a little too loosely here. Go sit in the corner Francis.
 
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PrattvilleVol said:
Bray hasn't developed into a starter within a window of time. It's that simple. Unless they are freak talents like Newton or Winston, or the injury bug forces rookies on the field early, they are slowly developed and will absolutely not play as a rookie. That's a fact. Aaron Rogers probably could have played after two years but stayed behind Favre a long time after that.
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Didn't Goff, Wentz, and Lynch all play last year? And I think the first two are starters.

I think Dobbs will be one of those qb's that develops over time, but there are more examples of rookies starting than you think.
 
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checkerboards09 said:
What was his prior experience? Again, I'll trust an NFL QB coaches opinion until otherwise.
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Bajakian was OC and QBs coach for Butch at his previous FBS stops. He also had a previous stop at CMU as QBs coach, and before that he was a QBs coach at some lower level programs. A quick glance thru his CV suggests that he's never been any other type of position coach.

Your statement about trusting the opinion of NFL coaches is a complete non-sequitur to your assertion that Dobbs never had a QB coach at Tennessee.
 
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PrattvilleVol said:
2 star posters that post lengthy dissertations don't deserve much attention, especially when everything they post is focused on their viewpoint, while discounting and ignoring everybody else. JMHO.

Posters that say what they have to say in 50 words or less have my attention. Anything beyond that is selling BS.
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Good thing you used Acronyms because that comment was exactly 50 words. :dance2:
 
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checkerboards09 said:
What was his prior experience? Again, I'll trust an NFL QB coaches opinion until otherwise.
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Bajakian has been a QB coach longer than Butch has been a head coach. Bajakian is an NFL QB coach,and with Winston, is looking like a very good one.
 
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bamawriter said:
Bajakian was OC and QBs coach for Butch at his previous FBS stops. He also had a previous stop at CMU as QBs coach, and before that he was a QBs coach at some lower level programs. A quick glance thru his CV suggests that he's never been any other type of position coach.

Your statement about trusting the opinion of NFL coaches is a complete non-sequitur to your assertion that Dobbs never had a QB coach at Tennessee.
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Well let's go with he had a QB coach until his sophomore season then if you wanna throw that around.
 
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