Tuesday Practice Updates 4.4.17

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allvol123 said:
If you dont have SEC talent, then you are not part of the depth.

When people discuss depth in the league, they are not discussing how many bodies are running around in practice.
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Exactly. There's no "depth" if it's not quality depth/players who can step in and play at an SEC level if need be. Just having walkons who have never and likely will never play doesn't equate to depth.

That said, we have 3 freshmen coming in, one of which is Ty Chandler who I think can be a star here barring injury. Then, if either or both Jordan and Coleman show they're SEC quality and can really play, then we have something. But right now in the spring, Kelly, CFA wearing a walking boot and 4 walkons in no way equals being deep at the running back position.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
John Kelly RB 5-9 212 JR
Carlin Fils-aime RB 5-11 175 SO
Stedman Love RB 5-8 175 RS FR
Taeler Dowdy RB 6-1 185 SO
Jayson Sparks RB 5-7 187 RS JR
Chip Omer RB 6-0 200 RS FR

There will be guys coming out of the woodwork this year. Guys you've never seen or heard of.
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Uh, no. When the signees arrive in the fall, the last 4 on that list will disappear.
 
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If a kid has the body size and is shown what to do, he may or may not have the reflexes, but he can fill a hole. That is the point. Guys are not going to have to play out of position every time someone goes down. What can you do with that kind of depth? Ask MIZZU.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
If a kid has the body size and is shown what to do, he may or may not have the reflexes, but he can fill a hole. That is the point. Guys are not going to have to play out of position every time someone goes down. What can you do with that kind of depth? Ask MIZZU.
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A walkon who never sees the field because he can't play at the SEC level is never gonna fill a hole beyond being a practice and O&W game body and mop up player vs an OOC team. . See Jayson Sparks and Taeler Dowdy...that is the more valid point.
 
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KBVol said:
A walkon who never sees the field because he can't play at the SEC level is never gonna fill a hole beyond being a practice and O&W game body and mop up player vs an OOC team. . See Jayson Sparks and Taeler Dowdy...that is the more valid point.
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Never means never and there are a rather large number of players who walked on at major programs that became college stars and played in the NFL. True, odds are, walkons are what you indicated but jewels are found from time to time laying wide open in a field. It's not that hard and fast or black and white as you made it is my point.
 
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BeecherVol said:
If you are "mopping up" at best you may provide depth next year. If your good enough to find snaps in a meaningful game you are providing depth.

Maybe it's better served to call it meaningful depth.
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We were down to 2 RBs at one point last year. We have more than twice as many this year, not counting WOs. We are deeper.
 
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CFA is ready he has added the right weight and he looked good in scrimmage. He will be #2 opening season while Chandler gets his plays and blocking assignments down. In a pinch if need be Dowdey would be the one they would play. Watch out though for Tim Jordan he is a serious Athlete and really good receiving skills.
 
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Kristy* said:
We were down to 2 RBs at one point last year. We have more than twice as many this year, not counting WOs. We are deeper.
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There are typically kids on every team that carried the football on their high school team in some capacity and could and would move over there if you had 6 acls go. So essential you have more than you are listing every year.

We won't agree on that term.
 
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pimo1 said:
OK you guys are letting buthurt overrule reality.
Hurd is the best RB we have had in a long time as far as pure talent and translating to the NFL. Kamara and Kelly were both better fits for this particular offense but I would pause very long before saying either was "better" than him. Kamara could be but never had to carry the load. Kelly has not has the time to build a resume. Not saying at the end he might turn out better but that's a crazy thing to say right now.

Jalen Hurd was a kid who took some advice most people would call bad. That being said, we don't know what he was facing and why he came to make the choice he made. I think we need to just wish the kid the best and move on. Trust me it couldn't have been easy for him to make the choice he made and also it couldn't have been easy playing in an offense he was not a fit for for 3 years. I honestly believe if he played in most any other SEC offense those 3 years he would have been in the heisman convo.

it was a bad fit and he still made it work for almost 3 years.
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Yea we do... saying "Fu@& you, you need me" that was his decision and that was when he was done... never had a concussion... he got suspended... dude is a teenager in a grown mans body... smh... so much potential wasted.... because he has limelight issues...
 
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barrylee said:
True dat!! I don't see with how little we've seen, one could come to the conclusion that DR isn't holding down his spot? Seems if there was a problem at that important position, we would be hearing from the writers there was concern.
Think if Trey plays tackle anytime soon it will be on the right side.. JMO
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It just seems like Richmond is taking that position and making it his. Tatum and Smith have split time with him over there and maybe I was just spoiled by how well Chance Hall played as a freshman, but Richmond looked overmatched against everybody he played against last year. He is still just a sophomore, so I will hold final judgment. But with Smith coming in this year and Mays and possibly Wray coming in next year, Richmond better start showing out quickly. God know I hope he does.
 
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Kristy* said:
You guys are confusing talent/readiness with depth. 3rd string isn't as talented/ready as 2nd string. 2nd string isn't as talented/ready as 1st. But those capable bodies are able to provide depth. To provide rest to the 1st/2nd string. To mop-up and learn in the process.
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Not confusing anything. If you are not Sec caliber, you are not part of depth.
 
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#88
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Kristy* said:
We were down to 2 RBs at one point last year. We have more than twice as many this year, not counting WOs. We are deeper.
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Good grief, NOBODY counts walk ons.

And until we see the product, it is absurd to claim we have more depth at RB. We have 1 proven SEC back.
 
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armchair said:
Running back is THINNER than last year, it seems to me, and may not be as good. A lot will depend on how good CVA is. And QB is problematic since nobody has any real experience. Those are two key positions with question marks. I suppose Kelly is OK, but he's not Kamara or Hurd.
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Kelly has better burst, and top-end speed than Hurd. He is Shiftier and has almost double Hurd's YPC. Yep, Hurd is definitely better.:blink:
 
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#90
Like someone else said earlier, the depth chart this year will be

1. Kelly
2a. CFA
2aa. Chandler

If anyone else sees meaningful snaps, we are in big trouble. We can't afford injuries there.
 
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#92
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RPAV said:
We do look better in person to a man. Rock in a short time has done wonders. CFA looked good Saturday he is an SEC running back. Drew and Kongbo battled each other all day. Drew much more prepared than last year. Tackle position and how it shakes out is all up to how Chance Hall can train all offseason and stay healthy.
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That's good to hear about Richmond. With all the talent coming in at tackle, I was afraid he was going to get lost in the shuffle.
 
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allvol123 said:
Good grief, NOBODY counts walk ons.

And until we see the product, it is absurd to claim we have more depth at RB. We have 1 proven SEC back.
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At one point last year, we were down to

1. Kelly
2. CFA

This year, we have

1. Kelly
2. CFA
3. Chandler
4. Coleman
5. Jordan

How's that not clearly better depth? And who are you to assume these guys are not SEC caliber? They earned a scholarship to an SEC school didn't they?
 
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Kristy* said:
At one point last year, we were down to

1. Kelly
2. CFA

This year, we have

1. Kelly
2. CFA
3. Chandler
4. Coleman
5. Jordan

How's that not clearly better depth? And who are you to assume these guys are not SEC caliber? They earned a scholarship to an SEC school didn't they?
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If you are comparing, compare correctly. You don't pick a point in time after injuries and defections and then compare to spring the following year.

You compare last spring to this spring.


The only bona fide tested back we have is Kelly. That is our only proven SEC back.
 
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#95
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Tweet from KMac...

6 months‼️ felt good to hit some people today.

Good news.
 
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allvol123 said:
If you are comparing, compare correctly. You don't pick a point in time after injuries and defections and then compare to spring the following year.

You compare last spring to this spring.


The only bona fide tested back we have is Kelly. That is our only proven SEC back.
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I've compared to all points. Basically, we're replacing AK with 3 newbies. We may not have the immediate impact with them that we're losing with AK, but we have the depth IMO. If any one of the three can contribute (and I think they will), then we're good.
 
#98
#98
pimo1 said:
OK you guys are letting buthurt overrule reality.
Hurd is the best RB we have had in a long time as far as pure talent and translating to the NFL. Kamara and Kelly were both better fits for this particular offense but I would pause very long before saying either was "better" than him. Kamara could be but never had to carry the load. Kelly has not has the time to build a resume. Not saying at the end he might turn out better but that's a crazy thing to say right now.

Jalen Hurd was a kid who took some advice most people would call bad. That being said, we don't know what he was facing and why he came to make the choice he made. I think we need to just wish the kid the best and move on. Trust me it couldn't have been easy for him to make the choice he made and also it couldn't have been easy playing in an offense he was not a fit for for 3 years. I honestly believe if he played in most any other SEC offense those 3 years he would have been in the heisman convo.

it was a bad fit and he still made it work for almost 3 years.
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Kamara was the best RB the day he stepped on the field. When did Hurd carry the load ? His fresh. year and Kamara was not playing then. Kamara proved he could carry the load ,check out his stats just against A&M and show me 1 game where Hurd put up those kind of numbers. Kamara produced period and Hurd was good for a yard or was getting hit behind the LOS. Hurd was overrated from day 1.
 
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#99
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I'm loving how this team is looking so far in spring practices. The chemistry just from these videos seems to be really good. It's the little things that's what is going to make a difference for them.
 
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