Mike Griffith: "Butch Jones open to starting two Quarterbacks"

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eh. there's so many angles you could take with this. does he want to limit the opportunity for Dormady to transfer? probably, so why name a starter before you have to.

does he want competition at qb this off season? yep, sure does.

i don't have any doubt in my mind though, that he'd much prefer, whether he names a starter coming out of spring or not, that one of the separate themselves from the other. and even if one does, i still don't think you'll hear much on it until the end of fall camp.

plus with ?'s at RB (at least after Kelly), WR (after Jennings) and who knows what will happen with what should be a much improved O Line....there's little to gain by naming one early. they'll want to stretch it as long as they can and see how much chemistry can be built, and how the whole offense performs....there's going to be a lot of personnel decisions to be made that will directly affect which QB will be most successful.

that said, it'll be interesting to see, when all is said and done after Spring and Fall camps, who winds up with the most reps with the 1's. even w/out anything public being said about who it is, ultimately, you'll be able to garner some level of confidence in who it is just by paying attention to that.
 
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They say "a team with two quarterbacks has none."

However, unless either JG or QD show out during the O&W Game and spring practice, this is probably the best and most realistic option until one of them proves themselves against live competition. And that'll probably be a game or two into the season.
 
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That is great news!!! (1) this means that we have two capable q.b.'s and not just one q.b. who is the run away starter. (2) Both will get game experience, then bUTch will chose a starter. In the event, that the starter gets injured, then the other one can come in with past game experience and won't have to be spoon fed the offense.
 
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I'm not sure how I feel about this. It could spell the end of the Butch Jones era if it doesn't work out. So I really hope he's not doing it to appease the QB's.
 
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jakez4ut said:
eh. there's so many angles you could take with this. does he want to limit the opportunity for Dormady to transfer? probably, so why name a starter before you have to.

does he want competition at qb this off season? yep, sure does.

i don't have any doubt in my mind though, that he'd much prefer, whether he names a starter coming out of spring or not, that one of the separate themselves from the other. and even if one does, i still don't think you'll hear much on it until the end of fall camp.

plus with ?'s at RB (at least after Kelly), WR (after Jennings) and who knows what will happen with what should be a much improved O Line....there's little to gain by naming one early. they'll want to stretch it as long as they can and see how much chemistry can be built, and how the whole offense performs....there's going to be a lot of personnel decisions to be made that will directly affect which QB will be most successful.

that said, it'll be interesting to see, when all is said and done after Spring and Fall camps, who winds up with the most reps with the 1's. even w/out anything public being said about who it is, ultimately, you'll be able to garner some level of confidence in who it is just by paying attention to that.
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WR after Jennings?????????? I personally think that Byrd will be a player like Robert Mecham. I also think that Jeff George played well, when he played against Tn. Tech....
 
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Rudy123 said:
That is great news!!! (1) this means that we have two capable q.b.'s and not just one q.b. who is the run away starter. (2) Both will get game experience, then bUTch will chose a starter. In the event, that the starter gets injured, then the other one can come in with past game experience and won't have to be spoon fed the offense.
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there is no way they want to go in to this season w/2 qb's. with as much transition as this team is going to face this year, having indecision at the QB spot would be detrimental, and mean that probably neither one did enough to get more meaningful reps.

competition...yes. possibly prevent a transfer....probably so. be prepared to, so you have a plan b, yeah, makes sense.

as a bonafide strategy for success....no.
 
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We could go from a power run game with QD, to the option we were running with Dobbs for JG.

The only limit I see is trying to run Dobbs' offense with QD, I've heard that he is fleet of foot enough to avoid sacks but doesn't have the skill set(speed) to run out option.

From what I've heard JG can do it all.

The bottom line is who can read the defense, who can perform under pressure, and who can inspire the team thru their leadership. 2 out of 3 won't cut it. Let the competition begin on the 21st(that is when Spring Practice begins).
 
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Rudy123 said:
WR after Jennings?????????? I personally think that Byrd will be a player like Robert Mecham. I also think that Jeff George played well, when he played against Tn. Tech....
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i think Byrd can be great. but it's not a guaranteed he'll even be a full time offensive player. so until that's settled, yeah, it's a ?. has nothing to do with what i think of him as a player/athlete. as for George, in his limited action agains Tennessee Tech, that's not exactly a complete body of work, much less one against an opponent you can extrapolate anything from. so, he too is a ?. as is Calloway (who i also think has the potential to be pretty darn good himself).
 
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wow, creating a qb controversy out of nothing here. Let's wait til we actually have some practices before we begin with the quarterback controversy. I remember guys early in the season last year at games saying "put in Dormady" and "Dormady should be in instead of Dobbs". There will be plenty of time for the coach to make the best decision for the team. Pretty sure Butch wants to succeed and keep his job. :pilot:
 
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We could go from a power run game with QD, to the option we were running with Dobbs for JG.

The only limit I see is trying to run Dobbs' offense with QD, I've heard that he is fleet of foot enough to avoid sacks but doesn't have the skill set(speed) to run out option.

From what I've heard JG can do it all.

The bottom line is who can read the defense, who can perform under pressure, and who can inspire the team thru their leadership. 2 out of 3 won't cut it. Let the competition begin on the 21st(that is when Spring Practice begins).
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neither one of them bring the total package of athleticism that Dobbs possessed.

i don't expect either one to be as good as he was at handling broken down plays. JG may have a bit more of that athleticism than QD, but i would expect a RS freshman and QD to both take more sacks than Dobbs did, IF the o line play is = to the last two years.

both, by all accounts can make the passing game better, and both possess enough athleticism where they can still run RPO's and ZR plays to execute the offense as designed.

the difference we'll all see, most likely, is when plays break down and we don't necessarily get the WOW plays Dobbs provided. but if the O LINE is better, then that can help negate that....after all, that's what would be best....it's not a great attribute that one of your best weapons was a QB that could take advantage of plays that break down in front of him. not exactly something you can rely on, with just any QB.

Dobbs was the perfect QB at the perfect time considering the state of the O line at the same time.

now we need the O line to step up and be what we think they can be, and see which one of these guys can actually run the offense the best.
 
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VolsnRavens said:
I'm not sure how I feel about this. It could spell the end of the Butch Jones era if it doesn't work out. So I really hope he's not doing it to appease the QB's.
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He's 'saying' it to appease the QBs, but I am 99.99% certain that he has no intention of 'doing' it. I would say it is safe to say that the optimum scenario for Butch is for both QD and JG to show they are legit in spring ball so that one of them doesn't show as the clear cut frontrunner coming out of spring. If one clearly stands out it will be hard for Butch to avoid naming a leader, in which case #2 likely transfers. If both look really good then the competition can carry into fall. I could actually even see Butch going with a 2-QB rotation for the first couple of OOC games, if necessary, to see if one stands out above the other in live action. But I can't imagine he would stay with a 2-QB rotation going into SEC play. That would likely mean neither QB established himself, and that is a scenario I don't want to contemplate.
 
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jakez4ut said:
eh. there's so many angles you could take with this. does he want to limit the opportunity for Dormady to transfer? probably, so why name a starter before you have to.

does he want competition at qb this off season? yep, sure does.

i don't have any doubt in my mind though, that he'd much prefer, whether he names a starter coming out of spring or not, that one of the separate themselves from the other. and even if one does, i still don't think you'll hear much on it until the end of fall camp.

plus with ?'s at RB (at least after Kelly), WR (after Jennings) and who knows what will happen with what should be a much improved O Line....there's little to gain by naming one early. they'll want to stretch it as long as they can and see how much chemistry can be built, and how the whole offense performs....there's going to be a lot of personnel decisions to be made that will directly affect which QB will be most successful.

that said, it'll be interesting to see, when all is said and done after Spring and Fall camps, who winds up with the most reps with the 1's. even w/out anything public being said about who it is, ultimately, you'll be able to garner some level of confidence in who it is just by paying attention to that.
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I'd worry more about JG transferring than QD. It'd be devastating for JG to transfer
 
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Iam4utalways said:
We could go from a power run game with QD, to the option we were running with Dobbs for JG.

The only limit I see is trying to run Dobbs' offense with QD, I've heard that he is fleet of foot enough to avoid sacks but doesn't have the skill set(speed) to run out option.

From what I've heard JG can do it all.

The bottom line is who can read the defense, who can perform under pressure, and who can inspire the team thru their leadership. 2 out of 3 won't cut it. Let the competition begin on the 21st(that is when Spring Practice begins).
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QD actually had better HS rushing stats than JG
 
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smart of Butch...let them both fight for the position till the very end...you want a tough mindset from your QBs, and that nothing will be a given...you earn it...you start...two QBs talk is just a mirage...and,

GO VOLS!
 
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VolsnRavens said:
https://www.seccountry.com/tennessee/tennessee-starting-qb-jarrett-guarantano-quinten-dormady

"A source with knowledge of the competition said coach Butch Jones doesn’t have a timeline on choosing Tennessee’s starting quarterback.

Jones, the source said, is willing to enter next season playing two quarterbacks if one doesn’t separate this spring or in fall drills.


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That's just talk. He's gonna wait s long as he can to ensure he doesn't have a potential transfer situation on his hands
 
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Sea Ray said:
I'd worry more about JG transferring than QD. It'd be devastating for JG to transfer
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i think JG is good to go, either way. he's getting a shot as a RS freshman, and even if QD wins out, he still has 3 years left.

QD on the other hand, has been biding his time, and now is his opportunity. not sure that he'd take being named a back up in March/April too well with only 2 to play, if he has any real aspirations to do more.

and we need a solid back up. there's zero to gain by naming a starter today, tomorrow or by the end of August.

if i'm naming QB's to put on a transfer watch, it's QD.
 
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jakez4ut said:
i think JG is good to go, either way. he's getting a shot as a RS freshman, and even if QD wins out, he still has 3 years left.

QD on the other hand, has been biding his time, and now is his opportunity. not sure that he'd take being named a back up in March/April too well with only 2 to play, if he has any real aspirations to do more.

and we need a solid back up. there's zero to gain by naming a starter today, tomorrow or by the end of August.

if i'm naming QB's to put on a transfer watch, it's QD.
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I agree QD has the biggest incentive to transfer. I just don't know what JG's mindset is. Seeing what a competitor he is, he may not take kindly to sitting two yrs in a row.
 
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From reading someone else's post, I agree that bUTch may be doing this to keep both q.b.'s on a string, so to speak, so that one doesn't transfer.
Once the season starts, anything can happen. I have seen Simms play thru early Nov., then Bray take the job away from him against Memphis. I have seen Colquitt injured, then Helton injured then Manning take the job. I have seen Schafer start against UNLV, then we play a two q.b. system, then eventually Ainge takes the job.
Anything can happen.
 
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Sea Ray said:
I agree QD has the biggest incentive to transfer. I just don't know what JG's mindset is. Seeing what a competitor he is, he may not take kindly to sitting two yrs in a row.
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well if you believe what he's said, the kid is a helluva competitor and doesn't shy away from it. it's not like he lacks confidence.

at this point, in my mind, if JG doesn't at the very least turn out to be a very good SEC qb, then i'd say it's a bit of a disappointment.

long story short, if his work ethic matches the "bravado", then he should be very good, at some point.
 
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Rudy123 said:
From reading someone else's post, I agree that bUTch may be doing this to keep both q.b.'s on a string, so to speak, so that one doesn't transfer.
Once the season starts, anything can happen. I have seen Simms play thru early Nov., then Bray take the job away from him against Memphis. I have seen Colquitt injured, then Helton injured then Manning take the job. I have seen Schafer start against UNLV, then we play a two q.b. system, then eventually Ainge takes the job.
Anything can happen.
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it can, but in each of those scenarios, it wasn't ever the goal to go in to a season with that.circumstance. that was "we don't have much of a choice". and that's a bad place to be.
 
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