Reasons to be negative about the 2017 season

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Orange_Vol1321 said:
Yea burning reshirts on guys that are 230 that play on the line because you have to had nothing to do with it.

Appreciate your input but you'll have just as much if not more growing pains than us this year IMO.
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It didn't. Burning freshman OT Tatum's redshirt had nothing to do with giving up 49 points to Alabama. We could've been 100% healthy everywhere that day and we weren't staying close to those guys. Also, that's the only game Tatum played in.....doesn't remotely explain the losses to TAM, SCar and Vandy.

Btw, he weighed 265, not 230.
 
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kyvol98 said:
For some here, because the sun came up is reason enough.
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And others would never know it because their heads are buried in the sand.

I think 9-3 is the ceiling for 2017 and that's without a lot of injuries. 8-4 is more likely. I think we lose to Bama, LSU, Georgia, and possibly Florida. :cray:
 
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"Why you guys gotta crap on every positive thread, why don't you start your own.....so I can go crap in it"

Lol.
 
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The defensive line depth chart is pretty much in shambles unless Kongbo can live up to the billing to go along with Tuttle and McKenzie needing to stay healthy for the entire season.

Hoke can only do so much coaching up of players. They still have to have some talent.

if they don't get the d line sorted out and productive, then the rest of the shuffling on defense probably won't matter.
 
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508mikey said:
scheduling Georgia Tech in their home city with that offense they know they wont be able to figure out plus its on a freakin Monday --- glad Hart is gone
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They will hurt at least 2 OL and we will be fffffffffffffffffffffffff the rest of the season next year could be a 6 and 6 or 5 and 7 and season we are in for a long season plus not healthy at DL and teams will run over our young DL.:thud:
 
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JonGrudensAgent said:
The defensive line depth chart is pretty much in shambles unless Kongbo can live up to the billing to go along with Tuttle and McKenzie needing to stay healthy for the entire season.

Hoke can only do so much coaching up of players. They still have to have some talent.

if they don't get the d line sorted out and productive, then the rest of the shuffling on defense probably won't matter.
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Kongo heart is not in on becoming a DT we are wasting his talent.
 
#34
#34
Black is black

And our Orange is drab
I want my Football Champions back
It's Smokey gray, it's Smokey gray
Since Fulmer's glory days,
Ooh-Ooh
What can I do
'Cause I-I-I-I-I'm feelin' Lady Vol blue!


If I had my way
Football would be back today!
But 'they' don't intend
To use a bagman again,
Ooh-Ooh
What can I do
'Cause I-I-I-I-I'm feelin' Lady Vol blue!

I can't choose the 'cruitin'
It's too much to lose
My love's too strong
Wow! Only if 'they'
Would let ME have a say
Then it can't go wrong!

But it's Bad, it's is bad
That I feel so sad
It's time, it's time
That I found peace of mind, Ooh-Ooh
What can I do
'Cause I-I-I-I-I'm feelin' blue

I can't pick the coachin, an
I can't pick the AD
It's too much to lose
My love's too strong
Wow! Only if 'they'
Would let ME have a say
Then it can't go wrong!

Black is black, an
Our Orange is drab
I want my Football Champions back
It's Smokey gray, it's Smokey gray
Since Fulmer's glory days,
Ooh-Ooh
What can I do
'Cause I-I-I-I-I'm feelin' Lady Vol blue!
'Cause I-I-I-I-I'm feelin' Lady Vol blue!
 
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I was going to say o-line play for me just seems really a problem.(as it has been for sometime) I think QB play will be alright to really good if o-line comes through.
This being said, after reading most all this thread, I now say, all line play. My fear for d-line is too injury prone.
 
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99gator said:
That made sense as sad as that is. That Florida team was consistently terrible.

Last season, Tennessee was consistently inconsistent.

You can agree or disagree with that, but that's not a dig.
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You are correct. This team looked mismanaged starting with Appy. The way they played 2nd half of FL is what we expected all season long for the most part. And I partly blame the firing of S&C coach in the spring on alot of the injuries. IMO...still should have beat SC and Vandy.
 
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The only thing I'm worried about is replacing 10 sacks a season.


The other stuff will work it self out
 
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Longsufferingvol said:
Just to counter the thread about reasons to be optimistic, what are some reasons to be negative about the 2017 season?
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Replacing QB... though I think this will eventually be a positive.

LB position- UT has two players who have proven they are SEC quality LB's... and both missed significant time last fall due to injury.

No proven DE's.

Thin at DT with the best players returning from serious injuries.

No proven SEC quality CB's.

One proven RB.

OL play peaked in Jones' first season and has not been consistently good since.

One proven WR returning. WR corps made up of youth and questionable talent.

Coaching changes. No one knows how these guys will do or if they will mesh well when the bullets start flying.


Basically, UT has depth, injury, experience, and talent issues at every position except safety and the kickers.
 
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back on topic...you can say "negative" if you want, but i prefer to call them realities:

New WR, DB, DL, OL, OC, S&C coaches...that's a lot of turnover that can lead to chemistry and communication issues.

new QB, talented as both may be, no one really knows how they'll be in games.

two new starting RB's...Kelly showed promise. ?'s for everyone else behind him.

lost #1 WR...this may not be as bad a blow considering Malone's best season was last season, but past Jennings, there are ?'s....and who knows what will ultimatley happen with Byrd off/def/both?

LB's...lots of ?'s here. DKjr and....

Secondary returns a ton of experience, but based on what we saw last year, a lot of that experience will be to learn what NOT to do...and we want to say we're losing sutton, but really, we lost him last year, and we saw the result. how much difference will new DB coach make in year one??

O line--should be a strength with 4 returning starters and what should be depth. but we still wonder how they'll perform w/out the benefit of Dobbs' athleticism.


D line depth is an issue, and you lose your two best DE's. health will be very important, especially at DT. lots of talent, need it to develop, and some to live up to hype.

so in summary, you take every reason to be optimistic--provided we get the right answers to all these questions, and just flip it and say, what if we get the wrong answers?

it's just a reality...we have a lot of questions going in to 2017. it can be better than expected IF....it can be worse IF....

so we wait and see what happens.:thumbsup:
 
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Hacksaw said:
I don't understand why anyone would look for reasons to be negative about anything.
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it's not looking to be negative. just looking at the situation, and seeing it for what it is.

it's not negative to say we definitely have a lot of questions headed in to next season.

if you (as in the general "you" meaning anyone out there reading this) don't see that, then you're simply choosing to ignore it.
 
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RollerVol said:
sorry, don't see any reasons to be negative...can't wait to see what happens...should be fun...:)

GO VOLS!
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Maybe concerned. The last 2 seasons doesn't give me any optimism of being better for this season. I expect the same or worse and wish for better
 
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Hacksaw said:
I don't understand why anyone would look for reasons to be negative about anything.
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The botched trips to ATL the last 2 yrs do bring concerns. And have many new key starters and coaches. Every UT fan will not see this the same.

But we do live in a world where truth is hate speech to others
 
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rockydoc said:
We better be better 'cause everyone else in East will be badder. Past two years we weren't badder when we we better. (Git er done).
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i think on the whole, the EAst is still down.

i do expect GA to be better overall. FL has at least as many ?'s as we do.

in reality, the East is set up for a team like KY or USCe to possibly make a run.

and while our schedule doesn't have a gauntlet like it did last year, you draw LSU to match with Bama from the West, and we have to go on the road to FL and Bama. GT isn't a slouch out the gate just due to the style of play. GA/TN is now one of hte most competitive rivalry games in the league, and i expect that game to be as tough as it has been the last 4 years.

so you could make an argument there's 5 losses on the schedule right now. and that doesn't include land mines with KY, USCe out there....

121 will have to grow up real quick if they're going to be any better than 7-5/8-4, which i think is the ceiling for this team, this year.
 
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jbr82 said:
Maybe concerned. The last 2 seasons doesn't give me any optimism of being better for this season. I expect the same or worse and wish for better
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if we win 9 games, w/a bowl this year, i'd call that a success.
 
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jakez4ut said:
back on topic...you can say "negative" if you want, but i prefer to call them realities: Meh...Negative, Positive, reality...You're right though, it is what it is.

New WR, DB, DL, OL, OC, S&C coaches...that's a lot of turnover that can lead to chemistry and communication issues. True

new QB, talented as both may be, no one really knows how they'll be in games. True

two new starting RB's...Kelly showed promise. ?'s for everyone else behind him. I'd say Kelly proved himself as a RB. Next question...can he be #1. I think so, but what I think doesn't make it so.

lost #1 WR...this may not be as bad a blow considering Malone's best season was last season, but past Jennings, there are ?'s....and who knows what will ultimatley happen with Byrd off/def/both? Did lose Malone. How does that affect the WR corps? Who knows. Just my guess...probably not too much

LB's...lots of ?'s here. DKjr and.... Right now? DKjr and a lot of promise? Sapp and Bitueli (sp?) should be better, but lots of questions that I hope are answered during the Spring and Summer.

Secondary returns a ton of experience, but based on what we saw last year, a lot of that experience will be to learn what NOT to do...and we want to say we're losing sutton, but really, we lost him last year, and we saw the result. how much difference will new DB coach make in year one?? ???? across the board here. I hope Warren is the difference here. TURN YOUR DAMN HEADS!!

O line--should be a strength with 4 returning starters and what should be depth. but we still wonder how they'll perform w/out the benefit of Dobbs' athleticism. Richmond apparently is impressing this offseason. Has gained weight and strength. That's promising. Trey Smith is supposedly already showing a lot of promise. May get a lot of snaps as guard in the Spring, just to keep him on the field as much as possible during practice (purely my speculation)


D line depth is an issue, and you lose your two best DE's. health will be very important, especially at DT. lots of talent, need it to develop, and some to live up to hype. Piccou is apparently coming on strong this off season. I hope so. We need him. Also, I've been rooting for him since he got to UT.

so in summary, you take every reason to be optimistic--provided we get the right answers to all these questions, and just flip it and say, what if we get the wrong answers?

it's just a reality...we have a lot of questions going in to 2017. it can be better than expected IF....it can be worse IF....

so we wait and see what happens.:thumbsup:
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I definitely lean more towards positive than negative, but this post is really pretty spot on. Here's to hoping these questions get answered positively through the Spring and Summer.
 
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