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It looked the cop fired a warning shot. That situation looked like it was about to get out of control. Those kids were punks and at least 2 of them assaulted the cop. What the cop probably should have done is called the police to come out and handle the situation from the beginning.

The grown ass adult dragged the 13 year old kid on his property. Keep making excusees.
 
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I've said it time and time again.... cops do not have the ability to de-escalate a situation. They in fact seem to be trained to escalate the situation.

And I've told you time and time again you have no idea how many times they de-escalate a situation without having to resort to force. Yet, you still cherry pick individual cases out of countless encounters to "prove" your point.
 
It looked the cop fired a warning shot. That situation looked like it was about to get out of control. Those kids were punks and at least 2 of them assaulted the cop. What the cop probably should have done is called the police to come out and handle the situation from the beginning.

So...

I wonder how you would feel if the guy wasn't a cop.
 
So...

I wonder how you would feel if the guy wasn't a cop.

I don't think the cop was in the right. That being said, if he thought the kid said "I'm going to shoot you," then I think he was well within his authority to do what he did. It also looked like he was trying to get himself and the kid away from the crowd for safety reasons.

Like I said before, he should have just called the police.
 
It looked the cop fired a warning shot. That situation looked like it was about to get out of control. Those kids were punks and at least 2 of them assaulted the cop. What the cop probably should have done is called the police to come out and handle the situation from the beginning.

What a joke.

I'm sure if this adult man was manhandling your kid for walking through his property, you'd just sit there and wait for him to finish whatever the **** he's doing with him.
 
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I don't think the cop was in the right. That being said, if he thought the kid said "I'm going to shoot you," then I think he was well within his authority to do what he did. It also looked like he was trying to get himself and the kid away from the crowd for safety reasons.

Like I said before, he should have just called the police.

If you harass my 13 yo who is walking home from school and he allegedly says he's going to shoot you, you are not within your rights to touch my kid. Sorry. You're going to jail, unless you are a cop.
 
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I found a video on FB where you can clearly hear what they are saying.

Apparently things escalated when the off-duty cop called one of the girls a "stupid c***". The kid claims he told the cop to respect girls. The cop says he said "I'm going to shoot you" which the kids dispute.

The kids are all trying to de-escalate the situation. When they were talking it out, he told another kid to "shut the **** up" and then started manhandling the kid.

You can't justify this, even if he did say "I'm going to shoot you". If the cop really thinks this kid is a gang banger, why would he **** with him, especially in this case where the kid knows where he lives?

The cop doesn't feel physically threatened. His ego was threatened and as the only adult in the situation, he acted like the biggest ******* there. This is exactly the type of person who should not be a cop.
 
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I found a video on FB where you can clearly hear what they are saying.

Apparently things escalated when the off-duty cop called one of the girls a "stupid c***". The kid claims he told the cop to respect girls. The cop says he said "I'm going to shoot you" which the kids dispute.

The kids are all trying to de-escalate the situation. When they were talking it out, he told another kid to "shut the **** up" and then started manhandling the kid.

You can't justify this, even if he did say "I'm going to shoot you". If the cop really thinks this kid is a gang banger, why would he **** with him, especially in this case where the kid knows where he lives?

The cop doesn't feel physically threatened. His ego was threatened and as the only adult in the situation, he acted like the biggest ******* there. This is exactly the type of person who should not be a cop.

He's 13...and a foot shorter than the guy. Wow.
 
Read the story...not good.

Sounds there is some back story to this but, all in all, this is going to cost the officer, IMO. You just don't fire your weapon to warn someone. It's only purpose is deadly force, on or off duty.

There is more than one party at fault here but, in the end, he'll ultimately be the one to bear the brunt of the punishment.
 
I bet this wasn't the first run in the guy had had with these smart ass kids..... that said..... he should have never fired that weapon. He screwed himself royally.
 
I bet this wasn't the first run in the guy had had with these smart ass kids..... that said..... he should have never fired that weapon. He screwed himself royally.

When a grown man drags a 13 year old across his property in a headlock, something has gone very wrong.
 
I bet this wasn't the first run in the guy had had with these smart ass kids..... that said..... he should have never fired that weapon. He screwed himself royally.

Reading up a little, this has been going on for a while and the kids have refused to yield to his repeated requests/demands to stop walking through his yard.

Some legitimate Gran Torino stuff.

Regardless of who became belligerent first, he should not have discharged his weapon. It's going to cost him.
 
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