Which SEC teams are in danger of losing 3 more games in 2017 than in 2016?

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Tennessee: The Vols won 9 games in 2016 (we hear you, Vol Nation, you expected 11 or more). And that was with Joshua Dobbs behind center, turning losses into victories at least three times.

Dobbs obviously is gone, along with a lot of his talented buddies. Nothing is impossible, but it’s difficult to look at what’s returning and their schedule — which includes LSU in addition to annual partner Alabama — and find seven wins with a first-time starter at quarterback.

Opening with Georgia Tech and its triple option is no picnic and a loss could set the tone for a disappointing season.

Tennessee was the Offseason National Champion last spring. (How’s that for a mythical title?) Everybody loved them and all their returning stars. And we know how that ended.

They won’t have to deal with pesky preseason expectations this year.

One year after being chided for not winning 10 games and a trip to Atlanta, Butch Jones will do well to get the 2017 Vols to six wins and a bowl game.

Which SEC teams are in danger of losing 3 more games in 2017 than in 2016?
 
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The past couple seasons have shown high expectations for the Vols. For once I think it will be good for this team to fly under the radar. I think having that "world against us" and "back against the wall" mentality can actually benefit this team. We shall see.
 
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So...


When Jones breaks his foot off in all thier candy asses they'll jump board like a lot lizard at a truck stop
 
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In contrast to last year, we were better on paper than in reality...hopefully that changes this year. Maybe we strike Gold with w/ a much improved D coupled w JG or QD playing beyond their experience level.
 
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And Rick Barnes' squad was picked to finish dead last in the SEC this year. You see how well some of these predictions turn out.

I believe the expectations on TN basketball this year were fair but you would have to be completely blind to the program and the amount of talent we have returning this year to say that we would do well to get 6 wins.

Wow. LSU and Mizzou are sucking ass.
 
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And Rick Barnes' squad was picked to finish dead last in the SEC this year. You see how well some of these predictions turn out.

I believe the expectations on TN basketball this year were fair but you would have to be completely blind to the program and the amount of talent we have returning this year to say that we would do well to get 6 wins.

Dude, Butch Jones no Rick Barnes, who is a surefire HOF coach. Barnes has shown in year two that he can overachieve with less while Jones has proven he will underachieve in years 3 and 4 with more. Understand your sentiment, but it's apples to oranges imo.
 
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Let's see. UT is expected to possibly lose 3 more games than it lost last season, in large part, according the author, because the Vols will have a new QB under center. OTOH, in the previous article it was stated that Ole Miss was one of 3 teams picked to possibly win 3 more games than it lost last season, despite the fact it will have a new QB under center. Got it.

Yes, yes, I know, Patterson started a couple of games last season, one which he looked all world (his first game, so there was no game film on him), and he looked like a true freshman after that (so there was game film on him). Nevertheless, this will really be his first true season as a starter.
 
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I just don't see 7 losses next year. Even assuming UT loses to GA, UF, Bama, and LSU (And the Bama game is the only one where UT wouldn't be a favorite or slight underdog), there has to be 3 more losses. That means UT has to lose 3 of the following: Mizzou, UK, USC, Vandy, GT. I just don't see it.

If I had to guess what he's guessing, it would be GT, Vandy, and USCar he thinks will beat us.
 
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In contrast to last year, we were better on paper than in reality...hopefully that changes this year. Maybe we strike Gold with w/ a much improved D coupled w JG or QD playing beyond their experience level.

that's what it will boil down to this year.
 
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I'm not sure where I stand on this.

We have experts and plenty of negative posters saying we're going to suck because we don't have these key components, yet, if that turns out to be true?
The same experts will act flabbergasted that we sucked.


Oh well, I'm just going to root for the team and hopefully we pull off a good number of wins.
 
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Just looking at it the only real pick he made was GT the rest is based of last season

Yes, that's what I was thinking too. Two teams that beat us last year and a tough out of conference season opener against a team that was 9-4 last season for the sleeper.

Add in Bama and LSU and then we'd only need to lose against either UF or UG to lose six games.

I don't think that's what will happen. That's just my guess on the logic he used to come to his conclusion.
 
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Yes, that's what I was thinking too. Two teams that beat us last year and a tough out of conference season opener against a team that was 9-4 last season for the sleeper.

Add in Bama and LSU and then we'd only need to lose against either UF or UG to lose six games.

I don't think that's what will happen. That's just my guess on the logic he used to come to his conclusion.

Really tough opener.
I hope we dont underestimate them and start this season like last season
 
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Really tough opener.
I hope we dont underestimate them and start this season like last season

Exactly man. I can't help but feel we underestimated SCar and Vandy last year and each made us pay dearly for it.

I had a sneaking suspicion it would be too easy to underestimate GT for the opener next season so I also hope we don't do that.

That triple option isn't something most teams run so we'll just have to trust Coach Shoop will do his best to prepare against it and all the variables that come with it.

Notre Dame stopped them cold in '15, but GT looked like a new and improved GT in '16.

I found this article interesting about the '15 GT offense:

=> How Notre Dame's defense shut down Georgia Tech's option offense - CBSSports.com
 
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Really tough opener.
I hope we dont underestimate them and start this season like last season

I know what you mean, but we started last year 5-0.

We had a consistency problem last year.

Fix that and we could be fine. Lots of talent is gone from 120, we will see is CBJ is capable of reloading or will it be more of a rebuilding year.
 
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I'm not sure where I stand on this.

We have experts and plenty of negative posters saying we're going to suck because we don't have these key components, yet, if that turns out to be true?
The same experts will act flabbergasted that we sucked.


Oh well, I'm just going to root for the team and hopefully we pull off a good number of wins.

Its not negative posting to say we don't have these key components, its simply reality. I'm doing much the same as you, rooting for the team and hoping we pull off a good number of wins. But its a simple fact that we are plugging guys in to replace some of the best players we have seen in a long time, and whoever we plug in has yet to prove anything. Maybe they are all the greatest every at their position. But right now it is simply not known.
 
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if we go 7-5 this year, i'll be more upset that we didn't take advantage of one, or both, of the last two years, than i will of the 7-5 121 posts. given what we have, what's coming back, and all the new faces, on a singular note, 7-5/8-4 is all i expect this up coming season.

the realistic opportunities were there the previous 2 years. this year, the opprotunity isn't as realistic.

it should still be the goal. i just don't think we'll meet it.
 
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Exactly man. I can't help but feel we underestimated SCar and Vandy last year and each made us pay dearly for it.

I had a sneaking suspicion it would be too easy to underestimate GT for the opener next season so I also hope we don't do that.

That triple option isn't something most teams run so we'll just have to trust Coach Shoop will do his best to prepare against it and all the variables that come with it.

Notre Dame stopped them cold in '15, but GT looked like a new and improved GT in '16.

I found this article interesting about the '15 GT offense:

=> How Notre Dame's defense shut down Georgia Tech's option offense - CBSSports.com

We def have the talent to run them out of ATL I just hope everyone is back in time. They've said Tuttles injury is worse than his previous injury. Teams practice against the tech O for months and still have problems. We need to jump ahead and knock them out early

I know what you mean, but we started last year 5-0.
We had a consistency problem last year.

Fix that and we could be fine. Lots of talent is gone from 120, we will see is CBJ is capable of reloading or will it be more of a rebuilding year.

This is all true but it was way to close to comfort for me especially against inferior teams. We need to get back to dominating teams we should and challenging teams we have the ability to

If JG is the future the sky is the limit. I'm hoping he has a Kenny Hill effect before he sucked at TexasAM.
 
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Its not negative posting to say we don't have these key components, its simply reality. I'm doing much the same as you, rooting for the team and hoping we pull off a good number of wins. But its a simple fact that we are plugging guys in to replace some of the best players we have seen in a long time, and whoever we plug in has yet to prove anything. Maybe they are all the greatest every at their position. But right now it is simply not known.

The position coaches we upgraded will have an instant impact. This team has a lot of talent to beat a lot of folks and it's time they do just that
 
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if we go 7-5 this year, i'll be more upset that we didn't take advantage of one, or both, of the last two years, than i will of the 7-5 121 posts. given what we have, what's coming back, and all the new faces, on a singular note, 7-5/8-4 is all i expect this up coming season.

the realistic opportunities were there the previous 2 years. this year, the opprotunity isn't as realistic.

it should still be the goal. i just don't think we'll meet it.


7-5 has to be it otherwise something went wrong
I think Jones got away from his original plan last seaon and got lazy on his player accountability. Usually closing the seaon strong and they fell flat on thier faces
 
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