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#26
#26
Vol8188 said:
Games that mattered? I'm pretty sure they all matter. We've won 9 games back to back. I know it breaks your heart, but the ship is not sinking
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If you celebrate mediocrity, then you are right, the ship is not sinking. If you want to compete for titles, then yes it is.
 
#27
#27
Vol8188 said:
Games that mattered? I'm pretty sure they all matter. We've won 9 games back to back. I know it breaks your heart, but the ship is not sinking
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2-2 vs Vandy and 0 for Muschamp is pretty damning. The ship may not be sinking but the schedule next year is a giant ice burg
 
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#29
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VOLINVONORE said:
When the current class ranking in the four services range from#8 to #11, the recruiting class is not going poorly. try something else to bash the program and coaches. This one failed.
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We are ranked that high on sheer numbers alone

We are 5th in the SEC on rivals and scout, 6th on 247 Thats the teams we have to compete with for the SEC title.

We are 28th by average star rating at 3.23. Thats 8th in the SEC. Miss State is 27th and Northwestern is 29th
 
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#30
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volgr said:
Recruiting is going poorly because the SS Lyle Jones is ass up in the water...the OC hiring is just the lights going out.

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Pepto will take care of that belly ache, and a Tums will help with the heart burn.......
 
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CountVolcula said:
We are ranked that high on sheer numbers alone

We are 5th in the SEC on rivals and scout, 6th on 247 Thats the teams we have to compete with for the SEC title.

We are 28th by average star rating at 3.23. Thats 8th in the SEC. Miss State is 27th and Northwestern is 29th
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Great points. Also, this staff isn't one that is going to be able to overcome a talent gap. That is why, in my opinion, Butch has pinnacled here. The long term projection is downward. 7 to 9 wins and not competing for the conference title is Butch Jones in the SEC.
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
When the current class ranking in the four services range from#8 to #11, the recruiting class is not going poorly. try something else to bash the program and coaches. This one failed.
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But that's still like 6-8 in SEC against our peers. lol. I'm not complaining it's just facts.
 
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#34
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BeecherVol said:
There are a lot of teams directly behind us in the rankings with room to take several more players. UT will probably make a few more swaps but I think this class finishes somewhere between 12-15.
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Agree. And that'll likely leave us with the 7th or 8th highest rated SEC class. That's the bigger concern imo.
 
#36
#36
2016 is over. Personally, as a fan I'm putting this season behind me and moving on. We didn't win the East and we lost a couple of games we shouldn't have but it could always be worse. We have a lot of talent coming back and a decent recruiting class coming in so I'm not ready to declare UT Football a sinking ship. I accept the fact that we are NOT Alabama but I believe Butch wants to try to get us there. Only time will tell if he can or not. The handling of the AD hire by the administration is hurting football right now, so I can't put all that on Butch. 3 straight bowl wins and 2 9 win seasons is hardly the end of the world IMO.
 
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#38
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I'm sure they are telling recruits who is going to be oc... but I still feel butch has lost a lot of his appeal as a new coach to recruits.
 
#39
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Reformed Reader said:
FYI this is pure speculation. I would bet that the reason for delay is because of Trey Smith and the Early Enrollees. Once they have signed the papers, then the staff changes will take place (ie., once classes start back they can sign). It seems too risky to make any changes before that. If you are sitting on one of, if not the best player in the country and he is committed to you offensive scheme, do you risk changing it up a couple weeks before he signs his papers? I also think this is why Butch said that he is not overhauling the system/changing it completely, he is only enhancing it. Do you scare a kid off who may be the best player in the country? No. Once the papers are signed, you can do whatever you want. He is far too big of a name to risk scaring him off by your hire.
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Welp. The secrets out now. Thanks
 
#41
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volgr said:
He was 8-4 in games that mattered, 4-4 in conference and tied for 4th. This, after being picked to win the east and pre-season Top 10. So, stop with the 9 wins non-sense.
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Tsk tsk...

Well then...who out there in available football head coach land do you know who's gonna do better?

Especially, given the circumstances of the prima donna whose name won't be mentioned quitting in the middle of the SC game thus blowing up the bench, the huddle, the locker room...and an unmatched plethora of injuries...the frickin wheels came off.

Who, really-serious question, who in your estimation could have held the team together and won out?

So two who and why questions.

1. Who is available that certifiably can do better?

2. Who could have won out from the SC game on?
 
#42
#42
Just wondering why the OC "search" is a big damn secret. Looking like someone on the staff will be promoted. :dunno:
Hoping like Hell they don't botch the AD hire. :rolleyes:
 
#45
#45
volgr said:
Recruiting is going poorly because the SS Lyle Jones is ass up in the water...the OC hiring is just the lights going out.

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How ironic that the gif you use is actually that of your attempt to bash the recruiting efforts.
Going down in the dark.....seems like a Saturday night for you doesn't it :)
 
#47
#47
Orangedogsrule said:
Tsk tsk...

Well then...who out there in available football head coach land do you know who's gonna do better?

Especially, given the circumstances of the prima donna whose name won't be mentioned quitting in the middle of the SC game thus blowing up the bench, the huddle, the locker room...and an unmatched plethora of injuries...the frickin wheels came off.

Who, really-serious question, who in your estimation could have held the team together and won out?

So two who and why questions.

1. Who is available that certifiably can do better?

2. Who could have won out from the SC game on?
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How were Coach Krzyzewski's first 5 years at Duke? Most of the negatives on here would have fired him.

Give Butch a chance. You overlook how low the program was when he was hired and the improvement so far.
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
When the current class ranking in the four services range from#8 to #11, the recruiting class is not going poorly. try something else to bash the program and coaches. This one failed.
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This guy is a troll. Pay no attention to him. He will say he's just stating his opinion, his opinion is always "sky falling".
 
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