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Catbone said:
It's exactly what bill oreilly and his guest from California was saying last night...

Fake news everywhere I guess?
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Perfect example of why you can't just inform yourself from one biased source. It happens on both sides. Ill informed people assuming the other side is evil because they live in an echo chamber.
 
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Two names we expect Jones to speak with in the next two-to-three days are Chris Weinke, who was with the Los Angeles Rams this fall and current Utah State assistant head coach Mike Canales. We expect Weinke to be in Knoxville later today and get the first shot to impress Butch Jones. Tennessee's only known tie to Weinke is strength coach Rock Gullickson (more on that in a minute
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-Hubbs

We believe there is at least one more quarterback coaching candidate that Jones will visit with in the coming days, but at this point we’re not comfortable with a name to mention.
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In talking to a lot of people this week and in listening to Butch Jones visit with the media Tuesday night, the impression is that it will be two people with Larry Scott looking like the front runner to be promoted to offensive coordinator to take over for an offense that scored more points in 2016 than any offense in school history. Scott's involvement with the offense, particularly the second half of the year, was significant according to multiple sources particularly with formation and personnel stuff in game planning
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There's been plenty of chatter about Board of Trustees member Raja Jubran telling Jimmy Hyams that an AD hire might not happen until late spring

The news didn't resonate well with many in the athletic department who are ready to know the direction of things in the post Dave Hart era.
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amazingGRACE said:
This is one thing we actually agree on 100 percent.

It kills me to see how many guys on here have said "we're just not an elite program like many of you think", & basically saying "8 regular season wins is average for this school what's all the fuss about" & things of that nature.

Downplaying our own success as a program & being okay with mediocrity. Baffles my mind.

There's no reason we shouldn't be an elite football team year in & year out. Facilities are there, fan support is there, money is there, in state talent is rapidly improving, close proximity to recruiting hotbeds (Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville etc.)
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Everyone wants to be elite and in the playoff convo each year, it just takes time to restore. And nobody is happy we had a couple bad losses this year but I'm judging butch on body of work. And so far he is still projecting up regardless of what you guys want to say. If he regresses next year for some reason, then the time to reevaluate is valid. But let's be real, when you look at the record, 10 wins and up has not been the norm for awhile. Having said that, I don't think it was unrealistic to expect it this year, or next. That's becuse butch has worked his tail off and brought us back to competing. Excuses are never wanted to be heard, and I think shoop should have still beaten sc and vandy but we lost our entire 1-3rd string of d tackles. We were shredded at linebacker. The guys shoop specifically said he couldn't lose, got hurt in the first 4 games. It's a way bigger deal than people will give credit for becuse for some reason everyone wants to continue the hate. Nebraska, Michigan, lose a couple of their contributors and it's a free pass. Try playing the whole season without 75% of your defensive core.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
Jon Gruden or Joe Montayna IMO. Possibly Eric Taylor.
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I've got two words for you morans.... Uncle Rico.

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Darth_Shiveman said:
But the reports are that Helfrich cooled on the whole ordeal, not that Butch made any move or anything like that.

Sounds more like Helfrich heard there would be a buyout and noped out before any earnest talks were made. So Butch just had to move down whatever list he had to begin with.


Having said that, honestly I wonder how earnestly he actually pursued Helfrich and to what extent their meeting was for show. Butch had some interviews with OCs before Debord that were obviously just meant to give the appearance of due diligence. He said a lot of similar things about fit and not wanting to overhaul the system.

If Butch's top target was so willing to make a move to highly regarded guy who'd take the reigns of the offense, why would his #2-3 targets both be in house guys?

Doesn't make much sense to me.
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I bet Helfrich was cool with the buy out and the whole 9 yards until his buddy Chip Kelly got canned in San Fran. Then the buy out became more of a stumbling block.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
But the reports are that Helfrich cooled on the whole ordeal, not that Butch made any move or anything like that.

Sounds more like Helfrich heard there would be a buyout and noped out before any earnest talks were made. So Butch just had to move down whatever list he had to begin with.


Having said that, honestly I wonder how earnestly he actually pursued Helfrich and to what extent their meeting was for show. Butch had some interviews with OCs before Debord that were obviously just meant to give the appearance of due diligence. He said a lot of similar things about fit and not wanting to overhaul the system.

If Butch's top target was so willing to make a move to highly regarded guy who'd take the reigns of the offense, why would his #2-3 targets both be in house guys?

Doesn't make much sense to me.
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I doubt Helfrich spends time at a practice if there is absolutely no interest. Maybe he was there to see Mariota, but he still had to spend several hours of his time viewing practice and talking to coaches.
 
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