Dobbs in the NFL

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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Here is my list of the top NFL prospects in college football with their pro comparison in parentheses:

QB: Josh Dobbs (Randall Cunningham), Sam Darnold (Matt Stafford), Jarrett Guarantano (Colin Kaepernick)

RB: Saquon Barkley (more explosive and agile Ezekiel Elliott), Alvin Kamara (Marshall Faulk), Leonard Fournette (Marcus Dupree if he didn't bust), Jalen Hurd (more explosive Eddie George)

WR: Corey Davis (Jerry Rice), Antonio Callaway (Marvin Harrison), Noony Murray (Steve Smith)

TE: Evan Engram (Shannon Sharpe), Ethan Wolf (Greg Olsen)

DL: Myles Garrett (Bruce Smith), Arden Key (Simeon Rice), Ed Oliver (John Randle), Solomon Thomas (don't know right who he reminds me of)

LB: Jarrad Davis (Randall Godfrey), Darrin Kirkland Jr. (Bobby Wagner)

DB: Derwin James (Sean Taylor), Cam Sutton (Darrelle Revis)
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Please make it stop. Jerry Rice? You think Corey Davis will be the best WR of all time? You are legit insane
 
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Sam Darnold looks like the real deal. He can stick it on a dime and is unshakable.

If he grows out his bright red chin whiskers to Andrew Luck status, he'll be a pop icon.
 
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a NFL team with a running QB should draft JD in one of the later rounds or pick him up undrafted.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Please make it stop. Jerry Rice? You think Corey Davis will be the best WR of all time? You are legit insane
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I don't know if he'll be the best NFL WR ever. I'm just comparing skill sets. Both have similar sizes. They move the same on the field. Have similar hands that catch every ball. Great route runners. Not the best speed on a track in shorts but can run past anyone on the football field. Plus tireless work ethics.

And FYI Corey Davis owns the FBS career record for receiving yards so in some ways he's already the Jerry Rice of college football.
 
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xpsyclonex2002 said:
Honestly I would like to see him graduate, get a high paying job as an engineer, design something noteworthy, preserve his body, and retire a healthy, wealthy man. He's got too much going on between his ears to just jump on some dollars in the NFL. He's not going to make millions a year in the league. He could make several hundred thousand for a few years. But by the time he's 45, he can't walk, he has chronic headaches, and is addicted to Aleve.
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Starting engineering pay depending on geographic location is in the $60-90K annual range. NFL minimum is $450K and I'll bet Dobbs gets drafted and makes much more than minimum. Backup QB's don't get hit much. Hold a clip board for 3+ years then head off on your 30+ year engineering career as a millionaire. Sounds like a pretty good gig to me who's about to end a 30+ year engineering career.
 
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I think with his degree he will be able to "get by" financially even if he doesn't play in the NFL
 
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I went and listened to Peyton when he was at Freed-Hardeman last month and he had some interesting things regarding accuracy/interceptions in the NFL.

He said that during his rookie year, when he led the league in interceptions, there were many times when he would just toss it out of bounds. He said that he remembers coming off of the field one particular time and Tom Moore (I believe it was) asked him what the hell he was doing. He said, "Coach, there was no where for me to put the ball. All I could see was part of the receiver's body." Coach Moore replied, "Son, in the league that is as big of a window as you're going to get."

I though it was an interesting point. All of this talk of Dobbs' accuracy and decision making....those things are going to be multiplied and magnified if he gets an opportunity.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
No.

That's just a list of players I think become studs in the NFL.

Its not all encompassing. The more college football I watch the more names I'll be adding onto that list.

The guys on there right now are the guys I have the most confidence in.
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You're comparing college football players to some of the best guys ever step on the field. We can debate on who will be studs all day,but it's loony tunes to compare college guys to hall of famers.
 
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All I can add is that if he does, I'll be in front of the TV ready to watch the NFL again. It will give me a reason to care. Haven't watched a game since Peyton left. I did watch replays of Eric Berry's interception. The NFL needs him to counter the stupidity of Capernick (didn't even try to spell his name or look it up. I hope it is spelled wrong. Shows the level of respect he deserves).
Go Dobbs!!
 
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Burger said:
You're comparing college football players to some of the best guys ever step on the field. We can debate on who will be studs all day,but it's loony tunes to compare college guys to hall of famers.
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All those hall of famers started out as college kids as well.

When I compare then I'm not saying the player will have the exact same career. Just that they have similar skills and talent. For example, I don't expect Corey Davis to be the all-time leader in NFL history in every receiving category like Jerry Rice. But I do think they have similar playing styles and skills. And I expect Corey Davis to be a dominant WR in the NFL for many years.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
All those hall of famers started out as college kids as well.

When I compare then I'm not saying the player will have the exact same career. Just that they have similar skills and talent. For example, I don't expect Corey Davis to be the all-time leader in NFL history in every receiving category like Jerry Rice. But I do think they have similar playing styles and skills. And I expect Corey Davis to be a dominant WR in the NFL for many years.
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The odds are is that Corey Davis will not be a dominant receiver. Those hall of famers also dominated the college game as well. You have Kamara, Dobbs, and Sutton on your list compared to hall of famers. None of those guys dominated the college landscape. You have a guy who had as many 20 yard runs as I have fingers compared to a Heisman Winner and all time great. You have Callaway who gets by with his athleticism compared to a guy who was a technician at his position. The only similarity between Ethan Wolf and Greg Olsen is the color of their skin. Olsen is a receiver at TE, and Wolf is a better blocker.

Having Dobbs as Randall Cunningham is the most hilarious of all.
 
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Heard Jimmy Hyams on the radio a few min ago stating he heard from someone who is apparently in 'the know', Dobbs will be picked up in the 5th-7th round
 
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benzod said:
Heard Jimmy Hyams on the radio a few min ago stating he heard from someone who is apparently in 'the know', Dobbs will be picked up in the 5th-7th round
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The senior bowl, combine, and pro days haven't even come yet. Nobody knows for sure when Dobbs will be picked up. Plus all it takes is one team to like you more than others to go way higher than the projections.

Just think back to 2014. How many here thought Ja'wuan James would be taken in the 1st round? I know I didn't.

Once the senior bowl, combine, and pro days are through, Dobbs draft stock will skyrocket. At worst he'll be drafted in the 4th round like Prescott. However, I think its more likely he goes higher since alot of people are feeling burned right now by how good Dak has been and they'll be more open to looking at someone like Dobbs this time around.

I think 2nd-3rd round is where he eventually goes.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I'm not saying those 3 are the top 3 QBs in college football in terms of pro potential. They are just 3 guys I feel really good about in terms of them hitting the pro comparison. For example, I think Sam Darnold becomes the next Matt Stafford. I think Dobbs becomes a Randall Cunningham type player in the NFL. And I think Guarantano is Colin Kaepernick in terms of skill set.

But there are other QBs out there with great NFL potential. I just haven't studied them enough to give them a proper rating.
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Here is my list of the top NFL prospects in college football with their pro comparison in parentheses:
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You can't even troll right anymore.
 
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Burger said:
The odds are is that Corey Davis will not be a dominant receiver. Those hall of famers also dominated the college game as well. You have Kamara, Dobbs, and Sutton on your list compared to hall of famers. None of those guys dominated the college landscape. You have a guy who had as many 20 yard runs as I have fingers compared to a Heisman Winner and all time great. You have Callaway who gets by with his athleticism compared to a guy who was a technician at his position. The only similarity between Ethan Wolf and Greg Olsen is the color of their skin. Olsen is a receiver at TE, and Wolf is a better blocker.

Having Dobbs as Randall Cunningham is the most hilarious of all.
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LOL. You do know Corey Davis is the ALL-TIME leader in career receiving yards by a player in FBS history? He has without a doubt dominated the college game.

And here are Randall Cunningham's stats in college: Randall Cunningham College Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com

Yeah I know different era. Different schemes. But still I don't see anything he did in college that is mindbogglingly that Dobbs hasn't done either. IMO Dobbs and Cunningham have similar skill sets. Both are tall, athletic, have great arm strength. And then there is their houdini like ability to escape defenders.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
LOL. You do know Corey Davis is the ALL-TIME leader in career receiving yards by a player in FBS history? He has without a doubt dominated the college game.

And here are Randall Cunningham's stats in college: Randall Cunningham College Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com

Yeah I know different era. Different schemes. But still I don't see anything he did in college that is mindbogglingly that Dobbs hasn't done either. IMO Dobbs and Cunningham have similar skill sets. Both are tall, athletic, have great arm strength. And then there is their houdini like ability to escape defenders.
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Dobbs arm strength would be below average in the NFL. Cunningham can throw it 50 yards on a bullet. Dobbs can't. Dobbs also doesn't have the passing instincts.
 
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I can't think of one QB that went to the NFL and blossomed into an amazing passer; something they weren't in college. It's usually the other way around.
 
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wouldbenicetowin said:
I can't think of one QB that went to the NFL and blossomed into an amazing passer; something they weren't in college. It's usually the other way around.
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Uh Tom Brady? His college stats were laughable and even his early career nfl numbers weren't particular impressive regardless of the super bowls.

Not saying Dobbs is the next brady but it's certainly not like late draft picks haven't worked out before at QB.
 
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Burger said:
Dobbs arm strength would be below average in the NFL. Cunningham can throw it 50 yards on a bullet. Dobbs can't. Dobbs also doesn't have the passing instincts.
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According to who? You? NFL scouts definitely don't share this opinion. Here is what Matt Miller (Bleacher Reports lead NFL Draft analyst) has to say about scouts and their opinion of Dobbs: https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/741017787712184320

Dobbs arm is plenty strong. Maybe not elite like Joe Flacco, Matt Stafford, and Aaron Rodgers. But definitely right there with any other NFL QB you wanna mention. And FYI just look at these highlights of Randall Cunningham and Josh Dobbs and tell me you don't see an uncanny resemblance. I personally see almost the same player.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwZZICUDWFo[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6_WxFx4CAI[/youtube]
 
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